My Favorite Thing About Rape Culture

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

now go watch fantastic lies on netflix. It's a documentary about the false accusation made against the duke lacrosse team. Watch and you'll see that sjw's are in fact real

Then go watch Southwest of Salem or any documentary made in the last 50 years where discrimination, 'excuse making' and witchhunt logic ruin lives. Go watch the damn news and see the latest Brock Turner.

Just at least please talk with experience. I don't have a lot myself but this forum? These internet stereotypes you were taught online? They ain't real life. I live on a University campus, the most cliche place you can get and the most 'SJW' people are really not what they're built up to be. I used to be angry at censoring SJW types too, until I realised they literally don't exist how riled up internet people perceive them.

 

[Dantе]

Then go watch Southwest of Salem or any documentary made in the last 50 years where discrimination, 'excuse making' and witchhunt logic ruin lives. Go watch the damn news and see the latest Brock Turner.

Just at least please talk with experience. I don't have a lot myself but this forum? These internet stereotypes you were taught online? They ain't real life. I live on a University campus, the most cliche place you can get and the most 'SJW' people are really not what they're built up to be. I used to be angry at censoring SJW types too, until I realised they literally don't exist how riled up internet people perceive them.

Then you must also realize that rape culture is a feminist propaganda and it does not exist in real life.​

 

[rollin]

There's colleges near me handing out rape whistles and statistics saying that 1 out of 5 women will be raped and 1 out of 16 men will be raped on college campuses.
And people are legit denying that "rape culture"exists
Only good thing about this thread is that it weeds out the ignorant pieces of shit

 

[Avani]

Then you must also realize that rape culture is a feminist propaganda and it does not exist in real life.​

The very fact that people think it's worth making a thread and being defensive enough to question the term "culture" itself invalidates the claim that it doesn't exist.

The term culture has been used many times in different ways- like work culture, highschool culture, corporate culture, pop culture, hip hop culture, cyber culture or the likes for the phenomenons related with the topic. The term "rape culture" is used in similar way. Yet we have silly threads like this trying to emphasize that incidents like " blaming the victim", and ignoring their trauma or shaming them that usually leads to them not even getting proper medical care let alone reporting the case don't happen. As if pretending it doesn't happen will make it go away. No sir, it won't.

And people forget that male on male rape victims are often among the people who often need medical care badly and yet do not report because of the victim blaming or added accusations of homosexuality and loss of " status as a man" within society. So it's not only women who suffer due to this rapist friendly approach.

This behaviour which instead of discussing how to deal with such crimes, providing medical and social support for victims and penalties for the criminal, spends all the time and energy on arguing to disregard how certain people perceive it, gives the impression that it's proponents are related with that group.

As for false-cases-argument- For almost every crime out there people claim to be falsely implicated and sometimes they are telling the truth. Doesn't mean that everyone accused of a crime is falsely accused and that crimes don't exist anymore or that it's only women who are lying in such cases. So this argument is nothing but red herring.

It's better to find the solutions of how to deal with such cases than wasting time on denial of problems outright.

 

[YowYan]

Prevention is better than cure. Like I said before, it's easier to put some clothes on than to change the prospective rapist's psychology.
On the side note, dressing slutty in some social settings is actually rude to some people. ​

Yes, it is. I do not argue that as it is common sense. But you have to widen your perspective for the grand scheme. When we stop looking at the root of an issue we start accepting it and desensitize it. That is the problem here and it is bound to get worse on the long run.

At bold: Implying the rudeness would trigger a serious response? What kind of response. As I've heard some disturbing words before from conservatives and/or religious nuts that slutty women should get raped to teach them a lesson about modesty. There's an example of that cave men, hairy armed logic.

 

[Avani]

At bold: Implying the rudeness would trigger a serious response? What kind of response. As I've heard some disturbing words before from conservatives and/or religious nuts that slutty women should get raped to teach them a lesson about modesty. There's an example of that cave men, hairy armed logic.

He does seem to imply the justification. I can provide videos where some bully threaten the anchor of a program on the television to rape her because he didn't like the way she questioned his "authority". There were cases where parents facilitated " corrective rape" for their children to cure the of " homosexuality" in some countries ( pretty common in Africa but not unheard of in other places too. )

The idea to punish the non conformist behaviour or non conventional clothing or actions with rape is nothing but cave mentality, bullying and trying to impose one's own will on another. And it's justification too happens. Not all but a good many of rapes have little to do with sexual gratification and more about ego and power( though the SG part is a kicker bonus). And it's part of the behaviour similar mentality that suggests rape was result of the " wrong signals" the victim sent by dressing up in or behaving in a certain 'inappropriate' way and often the only reason granting the criminal/aggressor a free pass for his/her role or pretty diminished responsibility for it if not outright justification.

That casual use of the word often on visible on internet only emphasizes how little attention people pay to it. Such cases can be tricky as it is and pointless arguments are nothing but a diversion from the issue itself.

 

[YowYan]

He does seem to imply the justification. I can provide videos where some bully threaten the anchor of a program on the television to rape her because he didn't like the way she questioned his "authority". There were cases where parents facilitated " corrective rape" for their children to cure the of " homosexuality" in some countries ( pretty common in Africa but not unheard of in other places too. )

The idea to punish the non conformist behaviour or non conventional clothing or actions with rape is nothing but cave mentality, bullying and trying to impose one's own will on another. And it too happens. Not all but a good many of rapes have little to do with sexual gratification and more about ego and power( though the SG part is a kicker bonus). And it's part of the behaviour similar mentality that suggests rape was result of the " wrong signals" the victim sent by dressing up in or behaving in a certain 'inappropriate' way and often the only reason granting the criminal/aggressor a free pass for his/her role or pretty diminished responsibility for it if not outright justification.

That casual use of the word often on visible on internet only emphasizes how little attention people pay to it. Such cases can be tricky as it is and pointless arguments are nothing but a diversion from the issue itself.

Bold: I guess that was of an interview on MEMRI TV? An egyptian news outlet if I'm correct. Where this dirty wizard looking muslim cleric didn't like how we was being intellectually owned by the female anchor and thus; showed his true colors?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Then you must also realize that rape culture is a feminist propaganda and it does not exist in real life.​

Maybe not. I think you're treating the term too literally because you're too deep in. All I know is what exists commonly in real life with my own eyes- a very warped and sad approach to sexual assault in real life and online. Happened to a friend last year and in the low-crime area of England I live in, theres about 6-7 cases each term on campus/nightlife, each failed by their Uni and society (people blaming or telling young women how to avoid it rather than condemning the men who do it)

See it with my own eyes mate, there's no feminist propaganda or conspiracy to it. So as a result when I go online and see people with or without real life experience going (sadly many who are either gender-obsessed or sexist) on about how we should downplay social reactions to a horrific, personal crime- there's something deeply wrong.

I don't actually identify as a feminist for a number of personal reasons but I know what I see. This is about as black & white an issue as you can get and the male backlash (not you necessarily) DOES sadly come from the immature notion of 'Not All Men' which is hugely and hilariously missing. the. point.

Final time, the rape culture argument is about Rapists VS non-rapists not all men VS some evil women. Show some humanity without twisting it all into some conspiracy theory about feminazis please. That's how this gross misunderstanding of a debate started.

 

[Avani]

Bold: I guess that was of an interview on MEMRI TV? An egyptian news outlet if I'm correct. Where this dirty wizard looking muslim cleric didn't like how we was being intellectually owned by the female anchor and thus; showed his true colors?

I have a vague memory of that one but a more recent news that was on my mind was :

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There are youtube videos but I prefer newspaper links to that.

Just to make it clear-- I see little difference in that person's behaviour and with people who try to gloss over the Donald Trump locker room talk.


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Edit : To elaborate more on the symptoms of presence of "rape culture" for the deniers:

How many times have you seen a criminal uploading videos of their crime to boast about it proudly and expecting and getting support among normal-non-criminal peers for it? And get it too despite the evidence they themselves share?

Does that rings a bell? If not just go back under the rock you live and stop trying to share your uninformed opinion on serious issues like this.

 

[YowYan]

I have a vague memory of that one but a more recent news that was on my mind was :

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There are youtube videos but I prefer newspaper links to that.

Just to make it clear-- I see little difference in that person's behaviour and with people who try to gloss over the Donald Trump locker room talk.


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Edit : To elaborate more on the symptoms of presence of "rape culture" for the deniers:

How many times have you seen a criminal uploading videos of their crime to boast about it proudly and expecting and getting support among normal-non-criminal peers for it? And get it too despite the evidence they themselves share?

Does that rings a bell? If not just go back under the rock you live and stop trying to share your uninformed opinion on serious issues like this.

Aaah..no subtitles. All I heard was "chorrdehorrdelelepokalipapi", mutliply that by 4 people talking through each other.

Jokes aside; There you have a typical example of why the term 'rape culture' stands strong.

 

[Dantе]

The very fact that people think it's worth making a thread and being defensive enough to question the term "culture" itself invalidates the claim that it doesn't exist.

The term culture has been used many times in different ways- like work culture, highschool culture, corporate culture, pop culture, hip hop culture, cyber culture or the likes for the phenomenons related with the topic. The term "rape culture" is used in similar way. Yet we have silly threads like this trying to emphasize that incidents like " blaming the victim", and ignoring their trauma or shaming them that usually leads to them not even getting proper medical care let alone reporting the case don't happen. As if pretending it doesn't happen will make it go away. No sir, it won't.

Yeah, we are debating here if it exists or not. You did not even provide an argument; just ranted that it exists.​

And people forget that male on male rape victims are often among the people who often need medical care badly and yet do not report because of the victim blaming or added accusations of homosexuality and loss of " status as a man" within society. So it's not only women who suffer due to this rapist friendly approach.

You might wanna tell this to a feminist, sometime.​

This behaviour which instead of discussing how to deal with such crimes, providing medical and social support for victims and penalties for the criminal, spends all the time and energy on arguing to disregard how certain people perceive it, gives the impression that it's proponents are related with that group.

The "victims" get medical support, social support, media support, SJW support, government support, and social media coverage (all this only if it's a girl, obviously).​

As for false-cases-argument- For almost every crime out there people claim to be falsely implicated and sometimes they are telling the truth. Doesn't mean that everyone accused of a crime is falsely accused and that crimes don't exist anymore or that it's only women who are lying in such cases. So this argument is nothing but red herring.

There are real rape cases, doesn't mean that there are no false rape cases. False rape cases are to be taken seriously too because it wastes the taxes.

Crying wolf won't help when the real wolf appears. For me personally, I don't believe a rape victim unless she provides a concrete proof.​

It's better to find the solutions of how to deal with such cases than wasting time on denial of problems outright.

Why waste time finding solution of issues that don't exist in the first place?​

Yes, it is. I do not argue that as it is common sense. But you have to widen your perspective for the grand scheme. When we stop looking at the root of an issue we start accepting it and desensitize it. That is the problem here and it is bound to get worse on the long run.

At bold: Implying the rudeness would trigger a serious response? What kind of response. As I've heard some disturbing words before from conservatives and/or religious nuts that slutty women should get raped to teach them a lesson about modesty. There's an example of that cave men, hairy armed logic.

"religious nuts", "cave men"
Your response is just blatant ad hominems.

"What kind of response"
Response in as it is immoral to some people.

"Slutty women should be raped..."
No, I condemn this. No one should be raped, but if they do get raped, I have a little less sympathy than I would have for modest women getting raped.
It's like, I'd be more sympathetic to an average guy getting shot as compared to a thug getting shot. Both actions I condemn, though.​

 

[Dantе]

He does seem to imply the justification. I can provide videos where some bully threaten the anchor of a program on the television to rape her because he didn't like the way she questioned his "authority".

Nice anecdotes, but doesn't apply in general. It's like when you say travelling by air is too dangerous because of some aviation accidents.​

The idea to punish the non conformist behaviour or non conventional clothing or actions with rape is nothing but cave mentality, bullying and trying to impose one's own will on another. And it's justification too happens.

Nice ad hominem. Be sure to actually provide an argument next time.​

And it's part of the behaviour similar mentality that suggests rape was result of the " wrong signals" the victim sent by dressing up in or behaving in a certain 'inappropriate' way and often the only reason granting the criminal/aggressor a free pass for his/her role or pretty diminished responsibility for it if not outright justification.

The rapists are actually sentenced.

Inb4 you bring up Brock Turner.​

That casual use of the word often on visible on internet only emphasizes how little attention people pay to it. Such cases can be tricky as it is and pointless arguments are nothing but a diversion from the issue itself.

You shouldn't come on the internet if you are easily offended. I wouldn't do half the shit that I say on the internet. Most of it is just satire.​

Maybe not. I think you're treating the term too literally because you're too deep in. All I know is what exists commonly in real life with my own eyes- a very warped and sad approach to sexual assault in real life and online. Happened to a friend last year and in the low-crime area of England I live in, theres about 6-7 cases each term on campus/nightlife, each failed by their Uni and society (people blaming or telling young women how to avoid it rather than condemning the men who do it)

See it with my own eyes mate, there's no feminist propaganda or conspiracy to it. So as a result when I go online and see people with or without real life experience going (sadly many who are either gender-obsessed or sexist) on about how we should downplay social reactions to a horrific, personal crime- there's something deeply wrong.

Are you actually trying to prove a point just by your anecdotes?​

I don't actually identify as a feminist for a number of personal reasons but I know what I see. This is about as black & white an issue as you can get and the male backlash (not you necessarily) DOES sadly come from the immature notion of 'Not All Men' which is hugely and hilariously missing. the. point.

If you are ashamed of identifying yourself as a feminist, just think about how failed of a concept it is that it's own advocates don't want to label themselves as feminists.

Also, so convenient of you to not address my last post.​

 

[Dantе]

It's funny when people say that not letting women dress slutty and being religious is cave man logic when, ironically, we were non-religious and didn't used to wear clothes when we were actually cavemen. Religion and clothing are components that made our society civilized in the first place. You all just want to turn the wheel now.​

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It's funny when people say that not letting women dress slutty and being religious is cave man logic when, ironically, we were non-religious and didn't used to wear clothes when we were actually cavemen. Religion and clothing are components that made our society civilized in the first place. You all just want to turn the wheel now.​

Never trust people who talk about humanity on some global or historical scale instead of actually as people. There's a word for that.

Oh, and i'm not a feminist because the modern movement has some issues and obviously can't relate or hope to tackle male issues in the same way. But thanks for assuming you know my life story. Not engaging in this thread because you can't change opinions on the internet and some sociopaths are so deep in that they're a lost cause.

Here's a fun thought, women shouldn't have to and don't give a sh*t what you think of them when they get raped or wear clothing that you consider promiscuous. Your entire 'conspiracy' ironically imposes that your personal values should be accepted by...every...female? Good luck with that.

 

[Dantе]

Never trust people who talk about humanity on some global or historical scale instead of actually as people. There's a word for that.

Wut? :elmo:​

But thanks for assuming you know my life story.

I never did that.​

Not engaging in this thread because you can't change opinions on the internet

Just read my second last quote to you; you actually just proved one of my points.​

and some sociopaths are so deep in that they're a lost cause.

Your ad hominem keeps reminding me that I am indeed arguing with an SJW.​

Here's a fun thought, women shouldn't have to and don't give a sh*t what you think of them when they get raped or wear clothing that you consider promiscuous. Your entire 'conspiracy' ironically imposes that your personal values should be accepted by...every...female? Good luck with that.

Bold words.
But I also don't give a shit when women like those get raped, though. So we're even. *_*​

 

[Avani]

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Sorry but I don't intend to play chess with pigeons.

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That's exactly what you are doing.



Edit: Just saw this in the part where you replied to another member

Bold words.
But I also don't give a shit when women like those get raped

And with that you confirmed you are with the man in those " anecdotes. Thanks for the confession.

Aaah..no subtitles. All I heard was "chorrdehorrdelelepokalipapi", mutliply that by 4 people talking through each other.

Jokes aside; There you have a typical example of why the term 'rape culture' stands strong.

Yeah that's one of the reasons I didn't bother with the video and linked the news article that was in English.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

See i'm not claiming to be able to expose the feminazi sham once and for all with my proof on a Naruto forum. I'm sharing my personal experiences because that's all anyone can really speak for unless they have delusions of grandeur/a conspiracy nut.

My anecdotes? Real life experience. I used to have the same stance as you (albeit not as elitist) until I got into the frontlines of this stuff, University campus, adulthood and clubbing. That's all I can really speak for. Something you're making painfully apparent you have nothing of.

You'd never hear anybody in the real world say 'feminist propaganda' for one.

Wut? :elmo:​

pssst the word is sociopath you Light Yagami roleplaying motherfuckerrrrrr :elmo::elmo::elmo:

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

woah woah just saw this

BTW, females were much happier in the traditional culture.

How good for you to speak for ALL 'females' of the past. Do you hear yourself?

Jesus christ I hope you are 12 or of some crazy, backwards religion. For your sake.

 

[Avani]

It's funny when people say that not letting women dress slutty and being religious is cave man logic when, ironically, we were non-religious and didn't used to wear clothes when we were actually cavemen. Religion and clothing are components that made our society civilized in the first place. You all just want to turn the wheel now.​

Even a **** regardless of his/her gender, has a right to say 'no' and deny you and you have to stop and step back. You need to understand no means no and you are obligated to respect that by law in most of the civilized societies.

I don't see anything funny here. Nor your religion or your personal dress sense has any role in this regard. All that is your personal preference and only matters to you not to others nor to the sluts. The moment you use religion or your personal sense of propriety or virtue the criteria about whose " no" is valid and whose not, you belong to the rape culture.

 

[Dantе]

Sorry but I don't intend to play chess with pigeons.

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That's exactly what you are doing.

Spoiler

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I'm sorry, but did you forget this is not a safe space?

Can't blame you much though, because it's easy just to defy logic and post some mundane shit because your ego doesn't seem to care about it when you are a Global Mod on a chinese cartoon board.​

Edit: Just saw this in the part where you replied to another member



And with that you confirmed you are with the man in those " anecdotes. Thanks for the confession.

Did you actually read his comment without bias? :elmo:

The key word is "those". Who am I to budge into those women's lives if they don't want me to do so?​

See i'm not claiming to be able to expose the feminazi sham once and for all with my proof on a Naruto forum. I'm sharing my personal experiences because that's all anyone can really speak for unless they have delusions of grandeur/a conspiracy nut.

Should've just told me from the beginning that you are trolling.​

My anecdotes? Real life experience. I used to have the same stance as you (albeit not as elitist) until I got into the frontlines of this stuff, University campus, adulthood and clubbing. That's all I can really speak for. Something you're making painfully apparent you have nothing of.

Yeah, I don't involve in hedonist culture. But I can sure point out the fallacy that you just commited: Mind Projection fallacy​

You'd never hear anybody in the real world say 'feminist propaganda' for one.

Yes, because the liberal media and feminists will make sure strip him of his job and social status, and label him a bigot.
Because free speech is only applicable when you are a liberal, amirite?​

pssst the word is sociopath you Light Yagami roleplaying motherfuckerrrrrr :elmo::elmo::elmo:

>throws more ad hominem
>doesn't provide any argument
Enough!​

woah woah just saw this



How good for you to speak for ALL 'females' of the past. Do you hear yourself?

Jesus christ I hope you are 12 or of some crazy, backwards religion. For your sake.

Looks like your liberal and gender studies are not paying off.

"Women are not longer the happier ***."

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