sasuke has ems so his sasunoo is completed he never used it cause it was naruto time to shin but we ALL know the anime so stop fighting about cry baby stuff and just use your head, EMS=complete sasunoo, he used his complete sasunoo unstabilized, but i bet he can do that too lol he prob. has all the power that madara has with EMS they have the same type of sharingan (itachi,sasuke madara) rare sharingan stated by obito lol soooo....wtf madara was still strong before rinnegan?!?! because of ems,he went heads up with the 1st PLUS we kno now HE DIDNT DIED so who knos what could have happened if he wonted to win and not jus get DNA, SO to say sasuke weak is to say EMS is weak, and if you can say that then you dont F'ing watch the anime and your not a true fan,