Draegod, I really don't understand . The Manga says that Mu can't use dust techniques when he is split. Champ already posted the manga scan.
Champ never said that Jinton doesn't use chakra, I'm sure Champ knows that it uses chakra. All Champ said is "when his body is split, he can't use jinton" which is what is said in the manga.
I don't understand, if Mu can't use the jinton because he was low on chakra, why didn't Kabuto just say that, rather than "when his body is split, he can't use jinton".
But what you guys fail to realize is the reason he couldnt use jinton was because of the low chakra.
Otherwise by you guys logic he should only be able to use jinton 2 times before 0 chakra.
He was simply low on chakra and the split clone made it worse and thats why he said he couldnt do it while he is split because low chakra. Notice he didnt use not a single jutsu like at all. He literally ran the whole time. Not flew, no invisibilty etc etc.
Back, went to play some dota 2,
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Anyways, Back to this,
Once again, What oonoki does, isn't automatically what muu can do... Onoki is his own person who would have created his own jutsu... He even said that the different shapes of jinton is reflective on the different generations... MUU has only been seen using the cyncrical like shapes ... onooki has obviously increased his knowledge and expertise in dust release over the years, and has different jutsu and shapes to go with it...
Do not compare his skill to muu's
Just because chiyo taught sasori, doesn't mean chiyo can do everything sasori can do.. Naruto doesn't work that way.. nothing works that way.. ninjas improve and are able to do their own things..
your logic is autoomatically flawed once you start giving muu abilities he has never shown or was hinted to be able to use..
Jinton is Jinton yes, it's a kkg
Lava release is lava release
Moukoton is moukton, But that doesn't mean the exact same abilities stay constant over time as new generations arrive ..
1st off, What the helll is dota 2? lol
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I never said muu knows everything onoki knows, i.e. golems and stone type moves.
Jinton is jinton.
Its a fact it starts off small then the user can increase the size no matter the shape.
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As you can see, it starts in there hands small. Then they increas ethe size as they see fit (depending on how much chakra).
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I dont care if the only thing he has hsown to do is a basket ball its a fact that all jinton users can manipulate the size as the see fit.
Thats what you guys fail to understand when i say jinton is jinton.
step 1: It starts off the same (in hand).
step 2: They increase it depending on how much chakra they put into the atk
Thats the step, now whether you make it long or collassal, jinton users can do so. cube sphere or cylinder doesnt matter.
But if we were to use your logic.
Sarutobi cannot use anything that hasnt shown him doing it. Just because muu didnt go all out and display his whole arsenal doesnt mean he cannot do what he has taught onoki and has been said could do which is jinton!
Then you use the generation excuse like that is universal and applies to all. -__- really? When and where did it say onoki improved his jinton and made it beyond his master. Just because sasuek & kakashi, or sasuke and oru etc etc showed it doesnt mean the same exact thing happened with onoki and muu.
Again ill say it again, and jinton user can manipulate the size. Shape doesnt even have to be brought up.
And it has been hinted, hell he was the inventor and teh one who taught onoki, it never said onoki surpassed him. WHat you are doing is assuming with no proof. The fact that they tied with it constantly is proof in the manga that they are at the same level with jinton. Like they literally tied! Like literally! Like what manga are you reading?
And if we were to go by your logic, again saru can only use what has been shown. Even tho it said he master all jutsu in the leaf. Since he never showed all 5 elements, never showed anything close to what his hype says.
By you believing saru hype and saying what your saying about muu you contradict yourself. Muu literally tied with muu with every jinton atk. If someone is better or have more moves or anything like that shouldnt he been able to defeat him??? What you say is way worse then what im saying backed with the manga. If you think muu showed all he could do you need to stop reading naruto.
Its a fact it starts in there hands small, correct? Then what happens?...... Please let this be the first thing you answer....