Muu's underrated

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He is in my top 5 u_u
 

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Strong but he is rightly near the bottom half of the top10 and no higher imo

That doesnt make any sense.lol

Ofc he isnt in the top 5, so that would put him in the next 5 bracket (thus saying top 10 and not top 5). Whether its number 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 itself doenst matter becuase on any givin sunday any of the top ten can defeat another in the top ten.

For example: i have Muu Defeating Minato, sarutobi, itachi. But i also have itachi defeating muu, sarutobi, minato (for damn sure), etc etc

But its your opinion none the less bud! :D
 

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mu is and was always in my top 10
anyway good thread +rep
 

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I agree. Muu has been one of my faves ever since he was shown. I was like " this bandaged dude is gonna be BOSSSS"

But he's top 7 period. And in top 2 kage's of all time.

One more thing. I believe doujutsu can't see him since when he's invisible his chakra doesn't exist and doujutsu sees chakra.
Am I wrong???

Your correct, nothing see's him unless altered by the environment via rain, sand, gust, smoke, water ripples, grass prints etc. Other then that he cannot be seen by sharingan or byakugan (rinnegan aswell).
 

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I've noticed in a lot of top 10 lists Muu's usually near 10th or not in it. But after recent chapters Muu could probably beat most people besides rinnengan users, Naruto and Kabuto.

In the latest chapter we saw how powerful jinton was, as it was able to take out Madara's susanoo clones. So I definetely think he can beat Itachi and Sasuke, Itachi shield only protects him from the front, jinton attacks don't just hit you from the front they expand and get all of you.

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I also think he could take Hashirama, Onoki was easily able to clear Madara's mokuton and hit him. Hashirama won't be able to heal from those attack unless his healing can grow new limbs if so Muu could just cover all of him and turn him into dust.

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Muu is also a sensor and can completely erase his chakra, so he's nearly impossible to find. If he actually gets hit by an attack he can use the body split technique as a last resort but he wont be able to use jinton for a while.

I don't think hes underrated I think he's rated about right. His dust release technique is unique and capable of destroying anything, but it does have to actually hit you to do so. I believe anyone with above average speed could escape this. Also, your point about him being able to take hashirama is inaccurate IMO. It is clearly stated throughout the manga that even though people have implanted hashis DNA inside them, they still don't contain the same power with their wood techniques that he did. Not saying that his dust release won't get through hashis wood (lol), but it would be a lot tougher to do so.

Lastly if mū splits his body he won't be able to use his jinton at all and his power is also halved. If he splits his body due to a lethal blow his power and chances of winning any match go down by 50%. I think being around the 9-11 range is fair for mū.
 

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That doesnt make any sense.lol

Ofc he isnt in the top 5, so that would put him in the next 5 bracket (thus saying top 10 and not top 5). Whether its number 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 itself doenst matter becuase on any givin sunday any of the top ten can defeat another in the top ten.

For example: i have Muu Defeating Minato, sarutobi, itachi. But i also have itachi defeating muu, sarutobi, minato (for damn sure), etc etc

But its your opinion none the less bud! :D

Make that clearer. He is no higher than 8th imo. 10th on my list
 

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i agree but he couldnt beat hashi
 

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That doesnt make any sense.lol

Ofc he isnt in the top 5, so that would put him in the next 5 bracket (thus saying top 10 and not top 5). Whether its number 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 itself doenst matter becuase on any givin sunday any of the top ten can defeat another in the top ten.

For example: i have Muu Defeating Minato, sarutobi, itachi. But i also have itachi defeating muu, sarutobi, minato (for damn sure), etc etc

But its your opinion none the less bud! :D

If anybody can beat anybody then there is no point in making a top ten lol. The purpose of top tens is to show who's the strongest 10 out of the field of individuals. Doing a vs is something completely different.
 

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yeah dude i agree. +rep :)
 

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I'd put Muu around 6 or 7. Sort of agree... I don't think he's underrated because a lot of people acknowledge his power, but he is forgotten a lot of the time when the most powerful are considered. I'd definitely put him above Itachi, Minato, Hiruzen, etc. I don't know if he could beat Hashirama or not; it all depends on if the 1st has sensing. It could go either way imo until we know that.
 

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I don't think hes underrated I think he's rated about right. His dust release technique is unique and capable of destroying anything, but it does have to actually hit you to do so. I believe anyone with above average speed could escape this. Also, your point about him being able to take hashirama is inaccurate IMO. It is clearly stated throughout the manga that even though people have implanted hashis DNA inside them, they still don't contain the same power with their wood techniques that he did. Not saying that his dust release won't get through hashis wood (lol), but it would be a lot tougher to do so.

Lastly if mū splits his body he won't be able to use his jinton at all and his power is also halved. If he splits his body due to a lethal blow his power and chances of winning any match go down by 50%. I think being around the 9-11 range is fair for mū.

Again we have someone who doesnt pay attention to the manga.

Muu can use jinton if his body splits!

The only reason he wasnt able to is because of these facts:

1. Him and onoki were fighting all day and using jinton and other techs.
2. He split half his chakra, which at the time was about 60% (guesstimate), thus giving him 30%
2.5. After the split of the boby he had to wait to summon Madara uchiha, which means his chakra had to grow back up.
3. Summons madara uchiha
4. couldnt fuse back with his body because it was sealed, if it werent sealed he would of got his chakra back (something no other clone can do in the series)

Now with all those facts, thats the reason he couldnt use dust.

Still not convinced?

Onoki couldnt use dust anymore because of?.... I'll wait... He used too much chakra form fighting muu.

Conclusion: Him not using dust wasnt entirely because of the split, it was because he used too much chakra before hand.
 

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I agree Muu is in my top list, he is one of the powerfull ninja of the world plus able to cloak himself. making him nearly invisiible.
 

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Again we have someone who doesnt pay attention to the manga.

Muu can use jinton if his body splits!

The only reason he wasnt able to is because of these facts:

1. Him and onoki were fighting all day and using jinton and other techs.
2. He split half his chakra, which at the time was about 60% (guesstimate), thus giving him 30%
2.5. After the split of the boby he had to wait to summon Madara uchiha, which means his chakra had to grow back up.
3. Summons madara uchiha
4. couldnt fuse back with his body because it was sealed, if it werent sealed he would of got his chakra back (something no other clone can do in the series)

Now with all those facts, thats the reason he couldnt use dust.

Still not convinced?

Onoki couldnt use dust anymore because of?.... I'll wait... He used too much chakra form fighting muu.

Conclusion: Him not using dust wasnt entirely because of the split, it was because he used too much chakra before hand.


"While Mū is in his split state, he is not able to use Dust Release techniques due to his power being halved.[5]"



I trust my source. He's bottom 2 on any top ten.
 

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He's top ten all time for sure. But if he and 2nd Mizukage killed each other wouldn't they technically be on the same exact level?
 

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"While Mū is in his split state, he is not able to use Dust Release techniques due to his power being halved.[5]"



I trust my source. He's bottom 2 on any top ten.

LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You used wiki???

Not the manga, not the anime atleast. But wiki??? Something that was edited by a person no better then me and you!

Like i said, it wasnt entirely because of the clone tech. Allot other stuff had to go with him not being able to use jinton afterwards.
 

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He's top ten all time for sure. But if he and 2nd Mizukage killed each other wouldn't they technically be on the same exact level?

I agree, but disagree to a certain extent. But none the less i have both in my top ten, 2nd mizu is actually the underrated one out of the two.
 

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Maybe underrated wasn't the right word. He's not usually taken into consideration as much, so people like Itachi are put ahead without much thought.

About he susanno, it can change forms according to the databook since it holds no true physical form..

... Jinton is an attack that's avoidable since it operates in a linear range...
Don't compare what onoki did to what mu can do.. we have never seen him do something like that , and lets not forget Tsunade was giving him chakra to make something that big...

Mu also hasn't shown the ability to use jinton while Invisible... He seems to have to come out of invisibility to attack... Not only that but even when invis, most anbu ninja, or hunter nin, or any ninja trained in using their senses such as Kakashi , hiruzen etc, can all smell or listen for Mu..Kakashi has a smell akin to nin dogs.. who were able to track ninjas miles and miles away... Itachi on multiple occasions was able to spot ninjas and people who he didn't have his eye on...etc..

Mu is strong but as I said, his attacks aren't big enough or wide enough to get anyone easily.. it's avoidable by any ninja with decent enough speed...
2nd mizukage obviously had no problem with it and he doesn't seem like a speed demon

 

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LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You used wiki???

Not the manga, not the anime atleast. But wiki??? Something that was edited by a person no better then me and you!

Like i said, it wasnt entirely because of the clone tech. Allot other stuff had to go with him not being able to use jinton afterwards.

The anime hasn't gotten that far for one :B and yes I used narutopedia to prove my point and it's a lot more accurate than you are. Every excuse you made why he couldn't use jinton proved me to be right. You haven't yet given me a sure fire reason to how he'd use it while he's split in half. Even if his chakra "grows" back as you've stated, it'd still be half of what it was when he was whole. His power is halved when he's split so he can't use jinton in his split state and that's the bottom line.
 

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About he susanno, it can change forms according to the databook since it holds no true physical form..

... Jinton is an attack that's avoidable since it operates in a linear range...
Don't compare what onoki did to what mu can do.. we have never seen him do something like that , and lets not forget Tsunade was giving him chakra to make something that big...

Mu also hasn't shown the ability to use jinton while Invisible... He seems to have to come out of invisibility to attack... Not only that but even when invis, most anbu ninja, or hunter nin, or any ninja trained in using their senses such as Kakashi , hiruzen etc, can all smell or listen for Mu..Kakashi has a smell akin to nin dogs.. who were able to track ninjas miles and miles away... Itachi on multiple occasions was able to spot ninjas and people who he didn't have his eye on...etc..

Mu is strong but as I said, his attacks aren't big enough or wide enough to get anyone easily.. it's avoidable by any ninja with decent enough speed...
2nd mizukage obviously had no problem with it and he doesn't seem like a speed demon


Well said.
 
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