Muu vs Minato
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The people making arguments for minato's victory are giving shitty logic on how he wins to be honest
> muus weakness being clones??? when the f*ck was that stated, scratch that, the dude was oneshotting ohnokis clones so how is that his weakness? when he was manhandling them clone
> minato teleporting to muu?
- how daf*ck does minato teleport to someone who is hundreds of meters high? muu can be visible and minato still can teleport to him cuz he does'nt have f*cking kunais spread in the sky.
> minato using fcd??
- how daf*ck does he use a technique that requires him to be above a character on muu who uses flight (who also has weight manipulation and can lighten bunta, so even if he is on the ground he still wont be defeated by it)
> minato's sensing
- minato is not the best in sensing, he has to focus to sense, and finger sensing aint working cuz muu can fly
> muu not been able to use techniques while invisible??
- dude can f*cking fly while invisible, which is a separate technique (lightened boulder justu) so saying he can't use a jutsu is wrong, cuz he did.
- minato blitzing??
- no blitzing is happening here, muu already reacted to kcm naruto who was inches away from him and kcm naruto was compared to minato
Muu takes this high diff IMO, cuz minato would be hard to catch, but i see muu winning more times than not especially with fission at his disposal
> muus weakness being clones??? when the f*ck was that stated, scratch that, the dude was oneshotting ohnokis clones so how is that his weakness? when he was manhandling them clone
> minato teleporting to muu?
- how daf*ck does minato teleport to someone who is hundreds of meters high? muu can be visible and minato still can teleport to him cuz he does'nt have f*cking kunais spread in the sky.
> minato using fcd??
- how daf*ck does he use a technique that requires him to be above a character on muu who uses flight (who also has weight manipulation and can lighten bunta, so even if he is on the ground he still wont be defeated by it)
> minato's sensing
- minato is not the best in sensing, he has to focus to sense, and finger sensing aint working cuz muu can fly
> muu not been able to use techniques while invisible??
- dude can f*cking fly while invisible, which is a separate technique (lightened boulder justu) so saying he can't use a jutsu is wrong, cuz he did.
- minato blitzing??
- no blitzing is happening here, muu already reacted to kcm naruto who was inches away from him and kcm naruto was compared to minato
Muu takes this high diff IMO, cuz minato would be hard to catch, but i see muu winning more times than not especially with fission at his disposal
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The only one using shitty logic is you. It's kind of funny how one can type so much but say absolutely nothing of worth at the end of the day.
Example 1: All your counters are "Mu is flying so lol it doesn't work", but why in the hell is Mu "hundreds of meters in the air" when he's
trying to kill the guy on the ground? :lol Please think before you post.
Example 2: Reacting to a FREE FALLING NARUTO means that Minato can't blitz w/ Hiraishin. :lol Do I even have to explain how dumb this sounds?
Lmao rethink your approach and edit this nonsense post.
If Mu kills a clone, he'll have stabbed him while in flight so by the time the clone poofs way, Minato realizes and warps, Mu will have already moved away from that location.
Agreed that Mu can't prep jinton. But if he exposes his location, Minato has to throw a kunai to him and I don't see why he can't just dodge the kunai and go invisible again.
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Unless there's a difference in chakra amount. Kage Bunshin got retconned later on the series. It seems like the user designates a certain amount of chakra to use on the clones and then divides the chakra equally among the clones
Narutos various clones feats throughout the war are good examples
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I was under the impression that it always worked like that.
1. I already addressed that.
2. This doesn't make sense regardless. Mu doesn't fly fast enough to kill a clone and then move out of that general area before someone far faster than him can initiate a jutsu. Then we have the fact that he himself would've stopped to kill the clone in the first place. Then we have the fact that Minato will know when his clone poofs the moment it poofs.
Sure, he can do that, but does it really change the outcome of the match? No.
Did you address that to some clown? I must have missed it because I don't follow their posts.
I meant Mu would be flying while stabbing so he doesn't have to slow down. So he'd already be in motion while the clone poofs away. Although now that I think about it, when Minato teleported to Obito, he managed to hit him with rasengan nigh instantly so if Minato's blitz is faster than Obito can cancel kamui, it is probably faster than Muu can move more than a few inches.
No it does not.
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Pretty sure it was Beans. lmao.
Why would he be flying top speed while stabbing anyway? That thought wouldn't occur to him because that's a weird way to fight unless you know what you are up against, and intel isn't full so he doesn't know that much about how Hiraishin works or that Minato would be using this particular strategy. Then there's everything you just said. Mu isn't even that fast when talking about instantaneous teleportation here.
I guess you dont know Muu is a long range fighter and can fire jinton from that distance eei, and thats not freefalling naruto, naruto jumped to tag muu and missed then the free falling began, and he was already shown to have the fastest reaction speed amogst the previous kages when he was the only one to react to gaara's sand. Muu can also use a mega jinton to vapourize the kunais laid by minato, and reduce the possibility of minato teleporting close to him (when he is on the ground that is). You only addresseed like 2 of my points, which proves you have no way of debunking the rest
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Which won't ever hit Minato, so why in the world would he continue to charge and spam a chakra intensive jutsu that he knows won't ever land? The way your strategy has this battle going, Mu spams Jinton and Minato dodges until he runs out of chakra. Mu has no mega Jinton. Don't make shit up. The only Jinton he has is the typical conical Jinton that he has, which is the same size as the cylindrical one Onoki has. If Mu is on the ground and he tries some Jinton sweep then Minato intercepts him as Jinton has a charging time.
And don't lie. lmao.
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-Naruto jumped.
-Naruto reached the apex of his jump.
-Naruto started to FALL towards Mu w/ his Rasengan.
That's freefall. Not like it matters because Hiraishin>>Naruto even at top speed.
And I only addressed 2 of your points because what I just addressed is enough to show that Mu doesn't win. :lol @ me not being able to address the rest when they are just as weak as the stuff I did address nor do they change the outcome of the match. Though Mu being able to use Ninjutsu while invisible is of course nonsense as he became visible to use Jinton in canon. :lol Like I said, rethink your approach.
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Is nonsense he says, when muu in canon became invisible then lightened himself, explain that please, lets be more civil and drop any insulting words and debate in a matured manner, kapeesh? Anyways jinton can aswell be used in an expansive manner, and ohnoki is scaled to muu in jinton usage atleast, so he can potentially expand his jinton big enough to vapourise minato's spread kunai's (which is not island/meteor wide), and minato has to evade so he wont be on the offensive. Muu is not likely tagging minato with jinton though but same goes for minato, minato aint tagging muu. Muu will have to come close, so all he does is use his katana and slit minatos throat, the clone goes poof minato knows the general area muu is, but he cant really throw his kunai, teleport and swing his arm to where he aint confident his enemy is in time before muu evades.
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What insult was in my last post? :lol
In canon Mu is shown being invisible while lightened. Where does the manga show him doing that in the order you say? Nowhere, so you can't make that claim in this argument. Not sure why you are talking about spread kunai, because Minato doesn't need to spread Kunai in this fight. The rest about Minatos clones was already addressed on the first page and beyond.
You aren't even addressing the very same arguments you were calling shitty logic.
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Oh ok, I thought that's what you were implying when you said the sensor couldn't determine the original.
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I don't know if i'm late or not, but I randomly was checking on the site and seen this topic and arguments.
The argument for Minato beating muu (easy) is Minato uses clones (lets assume 4), Muu goes airborn and invisible. The clones then split up, Muu Splits (invisible). Muu using the same speed onoki used on Deidara (which is fast on it's on) sweeps in and out from the sky slicing each clone.
Minato's plan based on KG:
Clone goes poof; Minato some how knows he is still in the area. and summons bunta.
First flaw. Minato would first have to bite his hand. Then use summoning. Then use FTG with the summoning. But before all of that, Minato would first need a reason to even do all that extra stuff that is clearly out of character. But lets assume he has full intel of Muu to even think to do this, when he himself is fast enough to normally tag (see Tobi fight) in his mind. In the sequence it would take to do a summoning tech, muu would have flown in and out of the area easily based off Deidaras flying feats on his bird (which casually allowed him to dodge KN1 naruto easliy and flew out of range with in seconds (I dont wanna look up any scans since Im out of touch with the site and dont like the spam that pops up with each manga page).
Muu fission tech allows him to keep splitting if I'm not mistaken based off the databook. It basically becomes a cat and mouse game with minato having no true way of killing the clones with out eventually getting killed first based off said strategy. Minato does have an easier way to win though.lol
Lets assume minato does that. It ends up being a clone and the FCD is a one and done move. The real Muu then stabs a helpless focused Minato for the win (since he clearly focused to do the FCD).
The argument for Minato beating muu (easy) is Minato uses clones (lets assume 4), Muu goes airborn and invisible. The clones then split up, Muu Splits (invisible). Muu using the same speed onoki used on Deidara (which is fast on it's on) sweeps in and out from the sky slicing each clone.
Minato's plan based on KG:
Clone goes poof; Minato some how knows he is still in the area. and summons bunta.
First flaw. Minato would first have to bite his hand. Then use summoning. Then use FTG with the summoning. But before all of that, Minato would first need a reason to even do all that extra stuff that is clearly out of character. But lets assume he has full intel of Muu to even think to do this, when he himself is fast enough to normally tag (see Tobi fight) in his mind. In the sequence it would take to do a summoning tech, muu would have flown in and out of the area easily based off Deidaras flying feats on his bird (which casually allowed him to dodge KN1 naruto easliy and flew out of range with in seconds (I dont wanna look up any scans since Im out of touch with the site and dont like the spam that pops up with each manga page).
Muu fission tech allows him to keep splitting if I'm not mistaken based off the databook. It basically becomes a cat and mouse game with minato having no true way of killing the clones with out eventually getting killed first based off said strategy. Minato does have an easier way to win though.lol
Lets assume minato does that. It ends up being a clone and the FCD is a one and done move. The real Muu then stabs a helpless focused Minato for the win (since he clearly focused to do the FCD).