Muu vs Gai

[TRE MERCER]

Mu invisibility activation isn't even fast for 1. Gai close that gab nearly instantly in 7th Gate and pound the man or he does Asa kujaku which aoe was big enough to cover this

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[Forbidden Technique]

>Takes Muu over two panels time to go completely invisible [

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>Takes Gai a single second to enter his gates [

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Advantage: Gai

>Muu's travelling speed didn't alert ordinary shinobi in the slightest, even with Madara[

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>7G Gai's travelling speed alerted Jubi Jin Madara [

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Major Advantage: Gai

So we can conclude that Gai is easily outpacing Muu off the bat. He has quicker immediate reaction, can enter gates faster then Muu can go fully invisible, and his travelling speed is WAY above Muu. There is zero possible way to bullshit around the manga and claim otherwise. Then added to the fact that Gai's striking speed is

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in the 6th gate, let alone the 7th...?! Lmao, I literally hate this site sometimes. Muu is getting toasted by a huge scaled Morning Peacock. Even by any miraculous and non-manga supported chance that Muu outmaneuvers 7G Gai from a 40 meter distance, he still can't win. Gai can destroy every single one of those stone pillars, and avoid Jinton with ease. OP didn't even give Mu those swords, so invisibility is accomplishing nothing.

 

[Beans2]

>Takes Muu over two panels time to go completely invisible [

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>Takes Gai a single second to enter his gates [

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Advantage: Gai

>Muu's travelling speed didn't alert ordinary shinobi in the slightest, even with Madara[

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>7G Gai's travelling speed alerted Jubi Jin Madara [

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Major Advantage: Gai

So we can conclude that Gai is easily outpacing Muu off the bat. He has quicker immediate reaction, can enter gates faster then Muu can go fully invisible, and his travelling speed is WAY above Muu. There is zero possible way to bullshit around the manga and claim otherwise. Then added to the fact that Gai's striking speed is

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and faster then a

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in the 6th gate, let alone the 7th...?! Lmao, I literally hate this site sometimes. Muu is getting toasted by a huge scaled Morning Peacock. Even by any miraculous and non-manga supported chance that Muu outmaneuvers 7G Gai from a 40 meter distance, he still can't win. Gai can destroy every single one of those stone pillars, and avoid Jinton with ease. OP didn't even give Mu those swords, so invisibility is accomplishing nothing.

The "Muu dodges lol" argument aside, why can't Muu do this before he's hit with the flame:

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so only one body takes the damage, while the fission body goes invisible? A sensor like KCM Naruto didn't notice Muu splitting since it's that fast, despite the distance between him and Muu being shorter than the distance between Gai and Muu would be if he's using Asaku Jaku.

Then Gai, seeing Muu's dead body, would halt the attack not realizing there is another invisible Muu on the battlefield, deactivate his gates, leaving him vulnerable to sword to the neck GG. And yes, Muu has his swords here. Canon alive Muu comes with dual swords, the only version without them is Edo Muu.

 

[Lord Tywin]

The "Muu dodges lol" argument aside, why can't Muu do this before he's hit with the flame:

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so only one body takes the damage, while the fission body goes invisible? A sensor like KCM Naruto didn't notice Muu splitting since it's that fast, despite the distance between him and Muu being shorter than the distance between Gai and Muu would be if he's using Asaku Jaku.

Then Gai, seeing Muu's dead body, would halt the attack not realizing there is another invisible Muu on the battlefield, deactivate his gates, leaving him vulnerable to sword to the neck GG. And yes, Muu has his swords here. Canon alive Muu comes with dual swords, the only version without them is Edo Muu.

split Muu is fodder. He was cornered by Dodai and some other random ninjas. He couldn't even go invisible

 

[Haizaki]

The "Muu dodges lol" argument aside, why can't Muu do this before he's hit with the flame:

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so only one body takes the damage, while the fission body goes invisible? A sensor like KCM Naruto didn't notice Muu splitting since it's that fast, despite the distance between him and Muu being shorter than the distance between Gai and Muu would be if he's using Asaku Jaku.

Then Gai, seeing Muu's dead body, would halt the attack not realizing there is another invisible Muu on the battlefield, deactivate his gates, leaving him vulnerable to sword to the neck GG. And yes, Muu has his swords here. Canon alive Muu comes with dual swords, the only version without them is Edo Muu.

@Bold Right...Which was why you made the intel full. A sensor like KCM Naruto didn't have any intel on the technique and hence didn't take full precaution, Onoki on the other hand forgot about it. Gai who with his 2 eyes can see what is happening won't be falling for a trick like this especially when he has full intel on Mu's ability and when the same scenario doesn't occur (Mu's landing past the rock which hindered them)

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. Not to mention Gai can speedily cover the distance within such time to make sure he's dead once and for all.

Like I showed Gai's perception and ability to react and anticipate things not seen

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and this may be due to his natural reflexes which at least would take in account the slightest of sounds. Then again, Mu has already shown to go visible when he wants to attack from one's blindspot rather than just attacking while invisible

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. Reasons for this? You never answered why.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

The "Muu dodges lol" argument aside, why can't Muu do this before he's hit with the flame:

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so only one body takes the damage, while the fission body goes invisible? A sensor like KCM Naruto didn't notice Muu splitting since it's that fast, despite the distance between him and Muu being shorter than the distance between Gai and Muu would be if he's using Asaku Jaku.

Then Gai, seeing Muu's dead body, would halt the attack not realizing there is another invisible Muu on the battlefield, deactivate his gates, leaving him vulnerable to sword to the neck GG. And yes, Muu has his swords here. Canon alive Muu comes with dual swords, the only version without them is Edo Muu.

That's a much better argument then the silliness I've been seeing tossed around here, but you're forgetting that the intel is full. Muu questioned why Onoki didn't notice his splitting, given his intel. In addition, Gai is extremely perceptive, being capable of catching a

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. I have no reason to believe that Gai would miss this, much less not even suspect it. Even still, when did the split Mu go invisible?

ET brings back the shinobi in the state around their death. This is why we don't see Itachi being brought back in his sword weilding Anbu days. If every form of Mu weilded a sword, he would of been weilding them when he was brought back. Not that I believe this is a complete game changer either way... Gai can deal with it.

 

[LuckyMan]

@Bold Right...Which was why you made the intel full. A sensor like KCM Naruto didn't have any intel on the technique and hence didn't take full precaution, Onoki on the other hand forgot about it. Gai who with his 2 eyes can see what is happening won't be falling for a trick like this especially when he has full intel on Mu's ability and when the same scenario doesn't occur (Mu's landing past the rock which hindered them)

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. Not to mention Gai can speedily cover the distance within such time to make sure he's dead once and for all.

Like I showed Gai's perception and ability to react and anticipate things

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and this may be due to his natural reflexes which at least would take in account the slightest of sounds. Then again, Mu has already shown to go visible when he wants to attack from one's blindspot rather than just attacking while invisible

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. Reasons for this? You never answered why.

Gaara's sand detected him. You can see in panel next to that all the sand particles are floating around Gaara and Onoki, when Muu came in contact he was felt by Gaara and he became visible to fire Jinton.

 

[Haizaki]

FT's last post ...I like that MU's Edo point. Plus the perception bit as well.

Gaara's sand detected him. You can see in panel next to that all the sand particles are floating around Gaara and Onoki, when Muu came in contact he was felt by Gaara and he became visible to fire Jinton.

Not the question...Why did he turn visible to attack? That's it.

 

[LuckyMan]

FT's last post ...I like that MU's Edo point. Plus the perception bit as well.



Not the question...Why did he turn visible to attack? That's it.

To fire Jinton. Is that not what he did right after? Muu had no control over what his body did because his body was programmed to respond according to the enemy jutsu as Ay III stated. I feel like you're trying to insinuate Muu needs to become visible just to attack someone physically (despite already physically moving while invisible) which would make zero sense because a physical attack is a physical movement, which is what he does to move around in flight and he's still invisible.

 

[Haizaki]

To fire Jinton. Is that not what he did right after? Muu had no control over what his body did because his body was programmed to respond according to the enemy jutsu as Ay III stated. I feel like you're trying to insinuate Muu needs to become visible just to attack someone physically (despite already physically moving while invisible) which would make zero sense because a physical attack is a physical movement, which is what he does to move around in flight and he's still invisible.

You stated the first bold but then you use the other as a point...I'm asking why he decided to come visible even though his main attack in that scan was him trying to physically hit Onoki not him coming to prepare Jinton which was what he did when he failed. You don't know why he came visible. Not being able to control his body shouldn't be the reason why he came visible because in the end, the person controlling him would have the same aim which was to eliminate the enemy. Eliminating them easily should be the better choice rather than making yourself seen to execute the attack when you can do the other which is easier and faster.

I didn't say Mu couldn't attack while invisible...I'm questioning that particular scenario which could be as a result of his character.

 

[TRE MERCER]

The "Muu dodges lol" argument aside, why can't Muu do this before he's hit with the flame:

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so only one body takes the damage, while the fission body goes invisible? A sensor like KCM Naruto didn't notice Muu splitting since it's that fast, despite the distance between him and Muu being shorter than the distance between Gai and Muu would be if he's using Asaku Jaku.

Even if Mu use fission Mu they both get wrecked. Fission Muu isn't going to protect him from something on this caliber

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[LuckyMan]

You stated the first bold but then you use the other as a point...I'm asking why he decided to come visible even though his main attack in that scan was him trying to physically hit Onoki not him coming to prepare Jinton which was what he did when he failed. You don't know why he came visible. Not being able to control his body shouldn't be the reason why he came visible because in the end, the person controlling him would have the same aim which was to eliminate the enemy. Eliminating them easily should be the better choice rather than making yourself seen to execute the attack when you can do the other which is easier and faster.

I didn't say Mu couldn't attack while invisible...I'm questioning that particular scenario which could be as a result of his character.

Kabuto was not controlling Muu at that particular point. Muu's body was programmed to respond to the enemies techniques. Why he became visible to attack, which is your question, has already been answered and its irrelevant because Muu won't be going visible to attack Gai.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kabuto was not controlling Muu at that particular point. Muu's body was programmed to respond to the enemies techniques. Why he became visible to attack, which is your question, has already been answered and its irrelevant because Muu won't be going visible to attack Gai.

Can Muu even make objects go invisible?​

 

[Haizaki]

Kabuto was not controlling Muu at that particular point. Muu's body was programmed to respond to the enemies techniques. Why he became visible to attack, which is your question, has already been answered and its irrelevant because Muu won't be going visible to attack Gai.

No it hasn't and your controlling point or whatever is what's entirely irrelevant to the Mu's action when regardless of the fact, he should have eliminated the enemy with the best strategy possible and not how you're picturing or explaining it to be. Zero relevance because whoever was in control, the best strategy possible is what should be employed ...@Bold, Right because he didn't do so to attack Onoki. That's just a side point to how this battle can go based on one's action shown to us by the Manga.

The rest has been covered...Gai wins.

Can Muu even make objects go invisible?​

Lol I remember once arguing this point after reading the description in the DB...Let's just say he can though.

 

[Uchihakil]

muu takes this hands down,bad matchup,guy is not the type that thinks and does stuff,he aint analytic,so i dont see him not getting hit with a punch heavier than a truck,a stab with a katana or make guy heavy by touching him and using jinton on him,muu can use clones,as well as fission,he takes this med diff

 

[Uchihakil]

split Muu is fodder. He was cornered by Dodai and some other random ninjas. He couldn't even go invisible

naaah man he could become invisibke bjt could'nt use jinton as stated by ohnoki

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Gai can also distort space so I don't think being invisible would help

 

[Zexion~]

Only shit being spewed here is the gai wank as usual :lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Only shit being spewed here is the gai wank as usual :lol

Yet almost all of the Mu arguments in this thread are low quality.

OT: If Max Speed Ay can do

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from around 20-30m to someone far faster and far more reflexive than Mu. 7G Gai who is at least on par with Ay in movement speed easily does the same before the far slower and far less reflexive Mu can move backwards far enough to evade the AoE of Asa Kujaku, which probably extends 5-10 meters (not his physical reach like Zexion tried to claim)

 

[Zexion~]

Yet almost all of the Mu arguments in this thread are low quality.

OT: If Max Speed Ay can do

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from around 20-30m to someone far faster and far more reflexive than Mu. 7G Gai who is at least on par with Ay in movement speed easily does the same before the far slower and far less reflexive Mu can move backwards far enough to evade the AoE of Asa Kujaku, which probably extends 5-10 meters (not his physical reach like Zexion tried to claim)

While he was being hit with another jutsu?

Uh what? The punches only extend as far as he can punch .-. The fire balls can be countered with fission jutsu.

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Along with a scan of Mu reacting to something the 3rd could not

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Even if it was because the 3rd can't sense doesn't change the fact that Mu can sense Gai going gates anyways.

Gai hype is Gai hype, Kisame reacted so Mu can react.

Keep in mind Mu can move much better in the air than Kisame can :lol