Muu or Oonoki are the strongest Kages ever.

[6pathofpain]

You can't honestly believe that that packs more of a punch than the best ninjutsu in the series?



No that answers your arrogance.

You haven't named any technique that is stronger than dust release.

give a cactus a blow job.

i believe that the dust release got blocked by gaara's sand an that the 3rd's attack wouldnt...

 

[Baka Sennin]

being the strongest or the most powerful and being the best aren't the same thing

 

[Kakashi9991]

Name one person stronger than Muu or Oonoki?

I'm tired of arguing the same shit no one has answered that question this whole thread.

It gets redundant and tiresome. So yeah.

I can answer your question. Hashiraman is strongest because he has huge chakra and I am definitely positive he has a lot more techniques than what we've seen. Then Madara because of perfect susanoo and powerful eye techniques and has special chakra, and tb naruto because he already proved he could beat Muu, and Nagato because of his Rinnegan, Itachi and his Yata mirror and battle strategies. You should not only think of what you've seen in the manga. You need to think a little outside the box. Those two are one of the strongest but not the strongest. There is a lot you need to consider, it is not just the Justus that you use.

 

[Uchiha AvengerX]

Muu and Oonoki are the strongest Kages of all time, besting Hashirama, Hiruzen and the 3rd Raikage.

Dust release and a convenient flying ability matched with superb doton puts them above the rest

Mokuton is childs play to Dust Release. Same goes for the 3rds lightning shield or w.e

Agree, or disagree?​

keep trollin trollin trollin on. If mokuton is childs play to dust release how come edo madara isn't sealed by oonoki yet. Yeah exactly

 

[Nikes]

If that was the case then Deidara would be the strongest.

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There you go.

Deidara has one the strongest attacks, but of course if you're a better shinobi than him you can find a way around it. Like Sasuke did.

The logic comes off twisted, but I'm not wrong. If you think I am, you need to have a more elaborate thinking process.

 

[Nikes]

i believe that the dust release got blocked by gaara's sand an that the 3rd's attack wouldnt...

Where's the scan?

 

[6pathofpain]

Where's the scan?

idk if it's only on my computer but for some reason those manga's are gone, maybe it's there on yours its around when the episode called madara uchiha. Im gonna see if its back yet

 

[Nikes]

idk if it's only on my computer but for some reason those manga's are gone, maybe it's there on yours its around when the episode called madara uchiha. Im gonna see if its back yet

Doesn't sound very reliable dude..

I don't remember that at all.

Dust Release obliterates everything in it's path.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Madara defeated both of them without using full power, and Hashi defeated Madara. What do you say now.

 

[6pathofpain]

Doesn't sound very reliable dude..

I don't remember that at all.

Dust Release obliterates everything in it's path.

givin it was a small one but it happened, im not sure why those episodes are gone tho

 

[Mishima]

Manga>everything you just said

 

[Scooby Doo]

Manga>everything you just said

LOL very true

 

[Shady Doctor]

keep trollin trollin trollin on. If mokuton is childs play to dust release how come edo madara isn't sealed by oonoki yet. Yeah exactly

You my friend are an idiot.

Dust release has been OBLITERATING mokuton, I would post the several manga pages where dust ****ed up mokuton but not in the mood.

You act like mokuton is Madara's entire arsenal, he's been owning with rinnegan and sharingan. Only person owned by mokuton was tsunade.

Dust > mokuton any day.

#1 kage = Hashi motha effin rama.

#2 kage = Mû U_U

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Dust release can be easily diverted with SBT

its not a projectile so how is it diverted?

On mangga it says that madara had just toying those two,

checking the translation, madara refers to both as children. so muu was very young and not tsuchikage yet

they cant even stop madara whos,using only a lil of his power to fight them so it means madara > oonoki muu,

lol so hanzo > current sanin just because he beat them when they were little more than kids?

madara even claims hashirama is the only one who could stop him even he was on that edo form he still claim it

meaningless without the feats to back it up. where is hashis sealing jutsus?

if you were saying that muu is stronger than hashirama so you are also saying muu is greater than madara

no he isnt. sharingan may allow him to see muu but hashirama has no doujutsus so he cant see where muu is

If muu is really stronger than hashi i bet kabuto will use muu as his trump card but its not

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since when is hashirama kabutos trump card? also i can't see hashirama taking down nagato without knowledge so thats all the more reason why madara was the trump card. he was a stronger version of nagato itachi and hashirama combined

lot of shinobi admire hashi and also wants his power an ex

meaningless. muu has no kekkei genkai. you cant just gain muus abilities by stealing some blood like you can with wood release. muus unique, special.

Also, when Madara got summoned by Kabuto Mu said "To think they'd use you in this war. They know what they're doing." This proves that Madara > Oonoki/M

no it doesnt. it means muu respects him for the beating madara gave him when muu was a teenager

bad matchup. or mizukage figured out a weakness he could exploitHow is Muu the strongest Kage if he got killed by the 2nd Mizukage

Honestly what has he even dont in the war? If he was soooooooo powerful he would have made a waaaay bigger impact

the people who have made an impact arent kages so my point remains. how can hashirama defeat him? he has nothign in his arsenal worth a damn. the reason why muu has made an impact on the war is his student, onoki whos the reason kages are still alive. the reason why mizukage was defeated through what muu told him. and muu remained unsealed. only reason he didnt nuke the alliance to hell is that naruto gaara and onoki forced him to split himself to survive planet rasengan.
muu summoned madara and edo kages. how could he have made MORE of an impact is the question.

AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP ACTING LIKE THE DUST RELEASE IS SO GREAT IS IT WAS THEN THERE WOULD BE WAAAAAY MORE DEATHS BY IT

by your logic, koto amatsukamis weak because no ones died from it. meteors are weak cos only fodders died by it. C4 is weak because no one died from it. shall i continue?

if the mizikage had a full battle with him an didnt get hit by it then i doubt its that easy to get caugh in

mizukage was made of water, had a continous exploding steam clone, and a master of genjutsu. thats enough to avoid 99% of attacks.

The mizukage has shown no super speed at all or really any great mobilty

yes he has. his clone outpaced gaaras sand which is incredible

An muu's lack of dection is useless against the 1st, why? Bring of darkness(Muu's blind) the He creates the forest with the knockout pollen

muus the best sensor in the series besides maybe naruto. you think he wont spot the chakra in the spores?

Madara bitch slapped both of these guys at once

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The giant's chakra has stabilized

*Gulp*...

To think there's this much difference between us...

Did grandfather really fight this guy?

I thought I told you: Hashirama is the only one capable of stopping me

And he is gone

Of course, as far as the lot of you are concerned, that may be for the best

That's because...

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If it's just me

You'll only need to redraw a small portion of the map

Incredible...he sliced through the mountains

If this is Uchiha Madara...

Then why...back then...?

Why did you hold back on us?

Does an adult fight seriously against children?

But more importantly...

Are you finished already?

Oonoki/ Muu can only beat hiruzen who isn't even that strong

all the more reason why they can beat alot more than him

Third Raikage will take on Dust Release like it was nothing

so he can survive being atomised at a molecular level...

Hiruzen is said to know EVERY JUTSU in the village yes?

and? deidara said he killed sasuke. not every statement is fact

2nd Mizukage also equaled Muu,

so chiyo was equal to sasori since both died?

Do you not remember Madara slapping Muu and Oonoki at the same time? Whilst also not going all out? With no apparent way to stop Dust Release?

Does an adult fight seriously against children?

last time i checked im pretty sure gaara blocked dust release...

he didnt

we don't know if Muu was in his prime.

he wasnt. translation confirms both were children at the time or at least teens

he states that Madara's chakara is more powerful then his.

no he didnt. not even close

You do realize during the era of Hashirama and Madara, Madara soloed them both. So if Muu was Oonoki's teacher then why didn't he just turn him into dust?

he was a kid he probably didnt create dust yet

There is a reason why Hashirama was called the strongest Shinobi of his time, the same time that Muu and Oonoki lived in

onoki was a small child in hashiramas time and muu was a teenager. muus prime was tobirama's era. onokis prime was probably hiruzen or minato era.

To make matters even worse was Muu's reaction when Madara popped out of his coffin.

so its bad for someone to show respect for someone who kicked your ass back in the day? i guess jiraiya shouldnt have said "no matter how strong pain is, he couldnt beat hanzo alone"

Madara defeated both of them without using full power, and Hashi defeated Madara.

muu and onoki were teens/kids at the time. muus prime came during the time of hashiramas brother