Muu & 3rd Raikage vs SM Naruto & MS Sasuke

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Muu & the 3rd encounter Sage mode Naruto & MS Sasuke

-All techs. known in the manga for both sides.

Location: S.Alliance battlefield

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Naruto gives Sasuke his intel, Sasuke decides to engage and attacks in the same fashion as he did against Ay, except he aims for the scar. He immediately activates Ribcage Susano'o coats it with Enton and attempts to slam the Third Raikage. If he manages to evade Sasuke's Susano'o and Enton, Naruto senses where the Third will land after spacing himself and launches an FRS. Sasuke at this point would have either used Amaterasu or Susano'o arrow to seal the deal.

The third Raikage lacks v2 and the speed to evade Amaterasu in the first place, so if he doesn't literally get killed by a single concentrated Amaterasu, he will still get overwhelmed.

The Third simply can't fight in CQC with Sasuke and Naruto if they have knowledge and the necessary abilities to pressure him. Mu is not capable of helping the Raikage in CQC, Naruto's clones can effectively scan the battlefield, if Mu deactivates his invisibility, he gets sniped by Amaterasu or Susano'o arrow. He can't stay in sight when fighting a Mangekyo wielder, which unfortunately is disadvantageous towards team 1.
 
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Muu and Raikage gets slaughtered. Amaterasu to the face of the 3rd and he's done for. Muu can hide all day the moment he turns visible. Naruto locates him and the slaughter begins.
 

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Third Raikage gets taken out rather quickly by genjutsu, amaterasu, or gets taken care of wi the same way Naruto already did.

I'm tempted to say Mu solos, however. He can dodge Rasenshuriken due to his sensing; he can fly out of range of Amaterasu; Jinton cuts right through Susano'o; neither Naruto nor Sasuke can detect him if he decides to go invisible and slit their throats. Only issue I see here is Mu can't tell apart shadow clones from the original Naruto.

I think a better partner for the Third Raikage would be Onoki, since he can get on the Raikage's back and replicate the combo he used with Ay.

Right now I'm undecided.
 
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Naruto gives Sasuke his intel, Sasuke decides to engage and attacks in the same fashion as he did against Ay, except he aims for the scar. He immediately activates Ribcage Susano'o coats it with Enton and attempts to slam the Third Raikage. If he manages to evade Sasuke's Susano'o and Enton, Naruto senses where the Third will land after spacing himself and launches an FRS. Sasuke at this point would have either used Amaterasu or Susano'o arrow to seal the deal.

The third Raikage lacks v2 and the speed to evade Amaterasu in the first place, so if he doesn't literally get killed by a single concentrated Amaterasu, he will still get overwhelmed.

The Third simply can't fight in CQC with Sasuke and Naruto if they have knowledge and the necessary abilities to pressure him. Mu is not capable of helping the Raikage in CQC, Naruto's clones can effectively scan the battlefield, if Mu deactivates his invisibility, he gets sniped by Amaterasu or Susano'o arrow. He can't stay in sight when fighting a Mangekyo wielder, which unfortunately is disadvantageous towards team 1.

Not necessarily - he can fly out of Amaterasu's range, or sense the chakra buildup in Sasuke's eyes and respond by going invisible. Susano'o arrows are dodged rather easily due to his sensing.
 

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What intel do they have for the fight? With no intel the Kages win. With intel its 50/50 but still leaning more to Kages.
 

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Not necessarily - he can fly out of Amaterasu's range, or sense the chakra buildup in Sasuke's eyes and respond by going invisible. Susano'o arrows are dodged rather easily due to his sensing.

Here we go with that since i can sense i can dodge argument No the momment muu turns visible sasuke gets a whif of him amaterasu gg him sensing chakra build up in the sharingan eye is moot since he will be thinking its susanoo or genjutsu considered he encountered those tech in his life also staying out of Amaterasu range isnt helping him here at all since his jinton will need more distance to travel. About or susanoo arrow argument please he couldnt even evade Naruto's chakra arm let alone a susanoo arrow he gets sniped.

3rd raikage is one shotted with amaterasu or this rasenshuriken

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Naruto and Sasuke takes this low diff they both can solo actually
 

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If you don't restrict the kyuubi, SM Naruto stomps as kurama's capable of constantly supplying him with massive chakra while keeping him in base/SM.
 

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If you don't restrict the kyuubi, SM Naruto stomps as kurama's capable of constantly supplying him with massive chakra while keeping him in base/SM.

Take it as if he never had tamed Kyuubi.
 

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If you don't restrict the kyuubi, SM Naruto stomps as kurama's capable of constantly supplying him with massive chakra while keeping him in base/SM.

Thats not even a factor because Naruto probably won't get low on chakra anyway. I need him to clarify what level of intel they have because thats the deciding factor. He said they know all techniques, but Raikage being some ultra tank is not a technique, he just is. If the youngsters have no intel on his ability to tank all their attacks then them rushing in for a Rasengan and Chidori spells death for them.
 

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Thats not even a factor because Naruto probably won't get low on chakra anyway. I need him to clarify what level of intel they have because thats the deciding factor.

No intel besides Naruto knowing 3rd's weak spot.
 

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Here we go with that since i can sense i can dodge argument No the momment muu turns visible sasuke gets a whif of him amaterasu gg him sensing chakra build up in the sharingan eye is moot since he will be thinking its susanoo or genjutsu considered he encountered those tech in his life also staying out of Amaterasu range isnt helping him here at all since his jinton will need more distance to travel. About or susanoo arrow argument please he couldnt even evade Naruto's chakra arm let alone a susanoo arrow he gets sniped.

3rd raikage is one shotted with amaterasu or this rasenshuriken

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Naruto and Sasuke takes this low diff they both can solo actually

sasuke isnt going to know instantly where Mu is the moment Mu becomes visible Naruto can since he's a sensor but Mu can go visible while he's right behind Sasuke in his blind spot its not gg since it travels as seen by how ay dodged it if ay (who is not a sensor) can dodge then so can mu and staying out of range does work since jinton is a long range tech and ama is a short range tech and lol if mu does get hit then he splits in half and only one body takes damage

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and lol at susanoo arrows they get dodged with ease

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Thats not even a factor because Naruto probably won't get low on chakra anyway. I need him to clarify what level of intel they have because thats the deciding factor. He said they know all techniques, but Raikage being some ultra tank is not a technique, he just is. If the youngsters have no intel on his ability to tank all their attacks then them rushing in for a Rasengan and Chidori spells death for them.

Since when does ms sasuke rushes people with chidori he's always shown to use 1 shotter since he gain ms/ems

sasuke isnt going to know instantly where Mu is the moment Mu becomes visible Naruto can since he's a sensor but Mu can go visible while he's right behind Sasuke in his blind spot its not gg since it travels as seen by how ay dodged it if ay (who is not a sensor) can dodge then so can mu and staying out of range does work since jinton is a long range tech and ama is a short range tech and lol if mu does get hit then he splits in half and only one body takes damage

the 3rd goes out quick and when he muu goes invisible Sasuke will be highly alert meaning he will be looking for the first sign of chakra also muu may can go invisible but he isnt completely silent Sasuke is bound to hear him sneak up on him also with Naruto at his aid it isnt happening with his sensory skills also sasuke keeping a ribcage on would provide good protection for Muu in there is no way he is outlasting the latter. Amaterasu may travel but its insanely fast also Ei didnt need sensory skills because he already knew how amaterasu worked and had the speed and reflexes to counter unlike muu who has zero knowlegde on it also jinton maybe long range but its easily dodged if he shoots at long range also with 3 boss sommings out and ma & pa muu will not have time to be trying to shoot jinton at just Sasuke who could close the gap with his hawk then use amaterasu to kill him. Muu spliting in half is moot is power is just sliced in half he'l just be a sitting duck for the next amaterasu.

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and lol at susanoo arrows they get dodged with ease

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edit: and lol op said full intel so this isnt even debatable

That was naruto in a mid fall he better had dodged that also the next scan he was whacked by the same trick

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Susanoo arrow is much faster than a guided rasengan by a chakra arm his is one shotted and with full intel he still gets wrecks he lacks good reaction to counter Amaterasu/Susanoo arrow even with his sensory skills
 
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Since when does ms sasuke rushes people with chidori he's always shown to use 1 shotter since he gain ms/ems

-he rushed bee with lightning sword
-he rushed raikage with chidori
-he rushed obito with chidori
 
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No intel besides Naruto knowing 3rd's weak spot.

Then the Kages win. 1 Finger Nukite kills them both. Its plowing through Sasuke's Susanoo (since this is MS) no difficutly and bisecting him. Naruto gets the same treatment. This sounds bad considering SM Naruto deflected his own attack but I don't consider that as a deciding feat. The reasons are because he was completely controlled by Kabuto and had no free will. Kabuto does not use all of his Edos to the best of their ability. Not only are they not a full power but he can only use what he know they can do. Example is him not knowing Nagato was a sensor and failed to use the ability which got him defeated and his location compromised. When he attacked Naruto via Third Raikage it was not an "Im about to kill you" moment either but a "I'll wound you down and capture you". So basically considering Third Raikage was not at full ability, no free will, and not coming at Naruto for the kill I can't believe only SM Naruto would do that to him when not hindered. KCM would probably for sure, but not SM, so Naruto gets cut down too.
 

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-he rushed bee with lightning sword
-he rushed raikage with chidori

the bee fight is where he didnt have the intent to kill nor any mastery over his ms techs Amaterasu Susanoo.

Against Ei he just wanted to get him out the way had no real intent of killing him untill after the liger bomb and still wanted to try out susanoo.

he showned to use a nasty combo against danzo Such as susanoo arrow and amaterasu even with the likes of zetsu he used v4 susanoo
 

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Then the Kages win. 1 Finger Nukite kills them both. Its plowing through Sasuke's Susanoo (since this is MS) no difficutly and bisecting him. Naruto gets the same treatment. This sounds bad considering SM Naruto deflected his own attack but I don't consider that as a deciding feat. The reasons are because he was completely controlled by Kabuto and had no free will. Kabuto does not use all of his Edos to the best of their ability. Not only are they not a full power but he can only use what he know they can do. Example is him not knowing Nagato was a sensor and failed to use the ability which got him defeated and his location compromised. When he attacked Naruto via Third Raikage it was not an "Im about to kill you" moment either but a "I'll wound you down and capture you". So basically considering Third Raikage was not at full ability, no free will, and not coming at Naruto for the kill I can't believe only SM Naruto would do that to him when not hindered. KCM would probably for sure, but not SM, so Naruto gets cut down too.

1 Finger nukite is dodged by both parties Naruto already did it in canon Sasuke keept up with v1 Ei who is known for his speed while his dad is not so they should be around the same level meaning his speed is much of a problem for Sasuke either. Raikage isnt piercing a v4 susanoo with no difficulty especially when Sasuke can coat it with enton so he would die regarless and his attacks are to liner genjutsu is prone to happen if and when he attacks Sasuke like Sasuke easily puts him down. Being controlled by Kabuto means nothing his speed didnt changed the way his nukite is excuted didnt change only thing that couldnt have been different is his fighting style overall but speed wasit a factor and it wont be now Naruto dodges and hits him with rasenshuriken killing him.
 

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Mลซ solos. He has range and Jinton. Neither Naruto nor Sasuke can defend against that or retaliate.
 
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