[Must Read] How Kakashi knows this? And some Uchiha Stuff

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NOTE : Before starting, I must say this will be a long read and hence I want the readers to have patience and read it till the end before sharing your thoughts/opinion.
We know Kakashi talked about the "losing the eyesight" statement with Itachi on which Itachi gets shocked.
Now how he knows about this isn't shown and hence people thinks it's a plot.
But I have an acceptable answer for this.

The answer is Kakashi's Sharingan.
Kakashi was in Anbu and would be ordered during those days to keep a check on an Uchiha. And that Uchiha goes to the meeting in that secret room and Kakashi finds it.

OR

He probably followed kid Sasuke and got to know the room.

All he needs is the seal and a Sharingan to get the access to that room and I think that's not a difficult task for Kakashi.

Now the question is "When he accessed that room?"

Probably after Itachi visited the village (after Hiruzen's death)
Kakashi could see the gathering of chakra in the eyes of Itachi when Itachi opened his eyes to use the Tsukuyomi. Probably Kakashi couldn't see Tsukuyomi coming and thought that it's just a normal Genjutsu. He fell for the Tsukuyomi.
But Itachi was the one who gave some more information on Tsukuyomi and Mangekyo Sharingan to Kakashi.
That's the end of information on how he knows Tsukuyomi.

Kakashi got the knowledge on Amaterasu from Jiraiya.
Jiraiya witnessed the black flames but didn't know about the Mangekyo.
Kakashi shared his info on MS and Tsukuyomi with Jiraiya and figured that the Black Flames is another jutsu of MS.

Kakashi accessed the secret room of Uchihas one day on the basis of the information he had. He found a stone tablet placed sacredly. He used his normal Sharingan to read the tablet and found about how to awaken a Mangekyo Sharingan.
Kakashi must be knowing about his own MS and then in the "skipped" two and a half years, he trained his MS and read the tablet once again and found about the MS abilities and the effects of the overuse.

He could read only what his MS showed him. There were no other information his MS could read.
During Sasuke vs Itachi arc, where the Konoha 11 got the route to Sasuke, Kakashi found the same black flames and he noticed that it was Amaterasu. About the name, there's still no links which I can relate to. :(
The names of the MS techniques written on the Tablet must be a possibility but still I doubt that.

Let's go further. How Sasuke knew about the MS techniques Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi of Itachi?

Sasuke only had 3T Sharingan. But he got the info on abilities of MS of Itachi from Orochimaru. Also Orochimaru shared everything what he knew. But Orochimaru didn't know about the Susano'o at that time and hence Sasuke was shown shocked when Itachi pulled out Susano'o.

Reason for Orochimaru not knowing about Susano'o was pretty obvious, Itachi never felt the need to use Susnao'o against Orochimaru's silly seducing tricks. Also there were no big matters around the Shinobi World for Itachi to go that far to use a Susano'o.
OR maybe Itachi awakened the Susano'o after Orochimaru left the Akatsuki.

Sasuke is intelligent enough to know the difference between a normal Genjutsu and a Tsukuyomi because he was mentally killed two times by Tsukuyomi and could speculate what is this Tsukuyomi technique Orochimaru is talking about. Also Sasuke got the knowledge about Amaterasu from Orochimaru and that's how he invented Kirin to use against Itachi using the Amaterasu. Kirin was his Trump card to kill Itachi.( that we all know )

But Kakashi also managed to know about Susano'o. (when Sasuke used it against Kakashi) How?
No one knows about it. OR Gaara might have shared his info about Susano'o and what all things happened at the Five Kage Summit. But the sharing of info wasn't shown. (that's what I think)

Now... The things which I said " Even I couldn't relate " like those statements.

"Kakashi knowing the names Amaterasu, Kamui and Susano'o."

What I can say on this? Let's read it. ( If you really want to continue )
Obito said that the Uchiha Stone Tablet was left behind by the Sage of the Six Paths. That is 100 percent true.

But for an Uchiha who wields a Sharingan, that is just a 10% portion of truth.

The Sage of the Six Paths, Hagoromo Ootsutsuki, the rinnegan user, wrote the information on the tablet which he holds. Means the rinnegan techniques, the Juubi, his own history, the God Tree, about Kaguya Ootsutsuki. He made the tablet for the people to know how everything about chakra started. In Particular, the tablet was the History Book about the past which can only be read by a Rinnegan User.

Sage didn't (possibly) knew about the changes took in the future generations, who wields the Rinnegan( after the Elder Son) Means he didn't knew about the Sharingan and how to get a Rinnegan.

The difference between the gap of Hagoromo's generation (along with his son) and the current genration is about several hundred years, means approximately 6 or 7 generations. (just a random guess)
And as the Elder son's (or at a further) generation divided into Uchihas and Senju, and Uzumaki and Hyuuga and many other blood-related clans ( if existed ) the Sharingan came into existence.

A different ocular jutsu came into existence. Because of Sharingan, Uchihas couldn't read (or didn't knew) what was written on the Tablet by the Sage and was passed on to the further generation as a holy Stone. Also the story about the Sage went on fading from the minds and at some point stopped to reach the new generations.

Simultaneously, the Uchihas started adding information about Sharingan on the Tablet on their own because that was a new achievement for them and holds importance equal to the sacred stone. As someone got their mastery over the normal Sharingan, their experience and knowledge was noted and after analysis, the common info, after analyzing the experiences of most of the Sharingan wielders, was written on the Tablet in such a way that only a Sharingan user can read it.

Then at some point in the history of Uchihas, the Mangekyo Sharingan was awakened. Not many got their hands on MS and hence with a little info, the Tablet was wrote again by a MS user. And this info to awaken a MS was to kill the best friend.
Now, we know that Madara and Izuna were the first to awaken the MS. Itachi said that they were the first two who awakened the MS in the whole history of Uchiha Clan. But was it really true that they were the first in the whole HISTORY? I think, No. Most probably, they were the first of "their" generation who awakened the Mangekyo Sharingan after a long gap between the previous MS user. These two people unintentionally followed what was written on the Tablet to awaken the MS and they awakened it.
The whole story of the evolution of Sharingan stopped at Mangekyo Sharingan.

Since those days were always involved in wars and battles, most of the Uchiha never achieved their full mastery over the MS. They were killed in the wars.

But Madara and Izuna used to compete each other and became strong. Hence they got the chance to master their ocular prowess. They mastered both the powers of MS and awakened Susano'o. Meanwhile, Madara was made the Leader of the Clan because he was the strongest and older. Then a change occurred in Madara's eyes. He started losing his eyesight.

It became difficult for him to fight against his opponents from other clans like Hashirama Senju and Tobirama Senju. Knowing about his brother's eyesight, Izuna acted like his shield. But Tobirama made a fatal attack and left Izuna on the deathbed. Izuna offered his MS to his brother to lead the Uchiha Clan. With this, Madara awakened the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan.
This news spread among the Uchihas and they started to apply the same rule to gain the EMS directly but failed.
EMS made Madara to understand that there is lot more written already on the Tablet and hence walked alone on his own path to peace.

But after the establishment of Konoha, Madara came across the knowledge of the Rinnegan which Hashirama hold. ( Hashirama knowing the Rinne Tensei is a proof of him holding the information about the Rinnegan )

This made Madara to get the DNA of Hashirama to awaken the Rinnegan because the Uchiha Clan holds the ocular prowess. And thus, when he awakened the Rinnegan, he got to know about the Sage, Rinnegan and his history as well as Juubi's history. This lead him to the seal to summon the Juubi's body and all the Rinnegan abilities as well as Sage's abilities as a Juubi's Jinchuuriki.

In short, the Tablet holds the information on Sharingan, MS and its techniques and the real thing about the Sage, Juubi and Rinnegan.
Whereas the Senjus hold information on the Rinnegan OR Hashirama only got to know because he learned SAGE MODE.

The names which Kakashi got to know hence were written on the tablet by the information which were obtained from the MS users from the past generation and was carved on the Tablet. There must be members whose techniques were passed down genetically to the future generations and hence the MS users managed to name their MS techniques depending upon what happens to the surrounding or to their chakra when they use those techniques. This was said by Black Zetsu, when he noticed the change in atmosphere when Itachi started preparation for Amaterasu.

Susano'o was a common name for the third power of MS and hence it was written by MS users who awakened them.
Obito read the tablet and got to know his technique's name, Kamui. And hence Kakashi knew about Kamui by matching the type of abilities. That is how, by analyzing Masked Madara's jutsu during the war, Kakashi managed to know that Masked Madara was using Obito's other Sharingan.

Guys, I'm not saying this is the real thing, but I can try to show a possibility. All you need to do is step out and give it a thought. Nothing else expected. Maybe this can help you tie the ends of your own thoughts on the story.

Share your thoughts =D
 
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The reason Kakashi knows the name Kamui is because he made it up himself. Obito, being a weird creepy stalker going by the names Tobi/Madara heard him say it and was like "Woah man, that's legit. Why didn't I think of that?" and thus, like every one of his other powers, stole something.
 

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I'm pretty sure it was just found bunch of nobody's and then reported to Hokage.

Or he knew the place always.

And Tsuchikage knew Susano'o, yet Ay and C did.

I'm pretty sure Kakashi didn't know about it until Sasuke was Hebi and couldn't follow him as a kid.

Not to mention, Orochimaru knew about Nakano Shrine. It could be that it used to be general knowledge until the new generation came and neevr got to know about it.

Maybe Kakashi always knew about the place.
 

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Kakashi eye sight was probably getting bad with the Mangekyo, so he asked Itachi was it the same with him. Gaara em told Kakashi & co. what happened at the Kage summit, that's how he knew about Susano'o. Kakashi didn't even know about the stone tablet til Obito told him about it. You guys are like babies who need everything explained, when the manga hints most of the answers
 

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or mabey he knew about the loss of eyesight because.......idk....his sharingan mabey???

off topic:why does everyone on this site say long read and it only takes a literal min or two to get through?

is that whats considered a long read nowadays,or do you say long read because it took awhile to type?

finish a book much???
 

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nice theory bro,,,

About Madara ,, Yes i agree that Madara was not First MS user of entire Uchiha but First in their Generation

But I think madara read all stuff about jubbi and Rinnegan with EMS....
And about kakashi I agree
 

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The reason Kakashi knows the name Kamui is because he made it up himself. Obito, being a weird creepy stalker going by the names Tobi/Madara heard him say it and was like "Woah man, that's legit. Why didn't I think of that?" and thus, like every one of his other powers, stole something.

i loled hard at ur sig but it is far from the reality dont u think :hint:
 

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The reason Kakashi knows the name Kamui is because he made it up himself. Obito, being a weird creepy stalker going by the names Tobi/Madara heard him say it and was like "Woah man, that's legit. Why didn't I think of that?" and thus, like every one of his other powers, stole something.

You didn't read U_U
I'm pretty sure it was just found bunch of nobody's and then reported to Hokage.

Or he knew the place always.

And Tsuchikage knew Susano'o, yet Ay and C did.

I'm pretty sure Kakashi didn't know about it until Sasuke was Hebi and couldn't follow him as a kid.

Not to mention, Orochimaru knew about Nakano Shrine. It could be that it used to be general knowledge until the new generation came and neevr got to know about it.

Maybe Kakashi always knew about the place.

Maybe :yeah:
Kakashi eye sight was probably getting bad with the Mangekyo, so he asked Itachi was it the same with him. Gaara em told Kakashi & co. what happened at the Kage summit, that's how he knew about Susano'o. Kakashi didn't even know about the stone tablet til Obito told him about it. You guys are like babies who need everything explained, when the manga hints most of the answers
Obito never said him in the first place. Can you give me a proof where he says Kakashi about the tablet?
If you can't then don't give Babysitting lectures around on NB. You must get your knowledge confirmed. U_U
or mabey he knew about the loss of eyesight because.......idk....his sharingan mabey???

off topic:why does everyone on this site say long read and it only takes a literal min or two to get through?

is that whats considered a long read nowadays,or do you say long read because it took awhile to type?

finish a book much???

Your lack of knowledge says that you never read a huge wall of text. There are people on NB who fails to maintain their patience while reading a long theory like mine is, and then posts "Didn't Read Lol" OR " Too long " etc. That's why I mentioned earlier to avoid those comments.
pretty nice one.! :)

Thanks ;)
 

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nice theory bro,,,

About Madara ,, Yes i agree that Madara was not First MS user of entire Uchiha but First in their Generation

But I think madara read all stuff about jubbi and Rinnegan with EMS....
And about kakashi I agree

Thanks =D. Even I cannot say that I don't agree with you. you have a point =D
 

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Seems plausible to me, well done bro =D
 

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What if I told you the user automatically say the words due to "Shonen Syndrome"? lol jk

Nice theory.
 

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The reason Kakashi knows the name Kamui is because he made it up himself. Obito, being a weird creepy stalker going by the names Tobi/Madara heard him say it and was like "Woah man, that's legit. Why didn't I think of that?" and thus, like every one of his other powers, stole something.

I agree with this ^^^^^^^^^^^
 

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The reason Kakashi knows the name Kamui is because he made it up himself. Obito, being a weird creepy stalker going by the names Tobi/Madara heard him say it and was like "Woah man, that's legit. Why didn't I think of that?" and thus, like every one of his other powers, stole something.

LOL, your sig. XD

OT: Good thread and good analysis. Hope Kishi does something about this.
 

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What is all of this?

He knew MS was causing Itachi to go blind because he himself was going blind after unlocking MS

He knew of Tsukyomi and Amaterasu because It was public knowledge at that point of Itachi's abilities... The Raikage , shee and Darui all knew of them as well..


Kakashi probably made that name up himself..
 
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