(Must Read) BM Naruto has eyes comparable to the Sharingan [PROOF]

[TheCCV]

reserving my post right now, will edit when I'm done reading.

EDIT: Okay, I'm done.

Firstly, I don't get your comparison of the two friends. I get the point your trying to make and agree, but I don't think that example was very well thought out. How does somebody setting their hand on the stove effect their speed? They're not running, both friends are in place, sitting down... so I don't get how time would slow down for one person.

Secondly, I believe that Minato is the fastest, Naruto being the only competition. You can't get faster than instant, it's just there. Same with Naruto. Assuming he moves at an instant speed (which may be instant, but I believe is close to it), then him and Minato will be the same speed. My point is that instant is an instant and can also be called peak speed, while speed is speed, and will always be measurable, while instant movement isn't.

Thirdly, Byakugan is a dojutsu that is also instant. The instant somebody comes into their zone of view, they're there, while Naruto will have to turn his head around. It'll be (like with Minato), near instant, but not exactly.

Still, good theory.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Naruto was faster then minato.I agree with you there, But he don't meant minato using FTG.

If naruto was faster then minato using FTG, why cant he dodge wood dragon?. And he should be able to speed blitz obito.

 

[Waltz]

It's clear that you don't know the difference between shun-shin and Spacetime ninjutsu

Naruto's shunshin that was deemed "Yellow flash:

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was already countered:

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And his evasion:

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No where near minatos level of teleportation:

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So much for BM being faster than the speed of light (186,282.397 mps), and Eisenstein's theory of special relativity:

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As the sharingan has already anticipated his movements, on many occasions.

Minato's FTG is a space time technique as he warps both space and time, in a sense creating a wormhole directly to his kunai. It works as a summoning jutsu according to the data book and is far superior to any type of shinshin. Neither is his shunshin faster than the sharingan, your just being fooled by the time skip between panels. Even madara was able to anticipate Bee's V1 speed without difficulty not to mention successfully guarding against it [

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[Punk Hazard]

Naruto isn't as fast as the speed of light....

He hasn't surpassed Minato in speed since Minato can go anywhere with his tag in zero seconds. No one in the NarutoVerse is faster than zero seconds.

Secondly, the laws of physics don't apply ti Naruto, so stop.

 

[Yin Susanoo]

this is true the faster raikage was his reaction time was greater thats how he dodge amatersu

 

[U C H I H A]

It's clear that you don't know the difference between shun-shin and Spacetime ninjutsu

Naruto's shunshin that was deemed "Yellow flash:

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was already countered:

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And his evasion:

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No where near minatos level of teleportation:

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So much for BM being faster than the speed of light (186,282.397 mps), and Eisenstein's theory of special relativity:

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As the sharingan has already anticipated his movements, on many occasions.

Minato's FTG is a space time technique as he warps both space and time, in a sense creating a wormhole directly to his kunai. It works as a summoning jutsu according to the data book and is far superior to any type of shinshin. Neither is his shunshin faster than the sharingan, your just being fooled by the time skip between panels. Even madara was able to anticipate Bee's V1 speed without difficulty not to mention successfully guarding against it [

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Nice try is all I have to say. Even if Naruto isn't faster than Minato, he is the closest one can get. My theory would still apply It seems you don't understand the theory of relativity...

 

[htmwall]

if you want to use physics then take a look at this,

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if naruto had the speed of light then nobody should be able to block his punch,since according to this naruto's weight should be infinite,meaning his punch can one shot perfect susanoo.yet it failed to kill kisame.
plus minato's ftg is instant because it's a summoning that takes him from point A to point B without running any space between them.so naruto can never be faster than ftg.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

It's clear that you don't know the difference between shun-shin and Spacetime ninjutsu

Naruto's shunshin that was deemed "Yellow flash:

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was already countered:

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And his evasion:

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No where near minatos level of teleportation:

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So much for BM being faster than the speed of light (186,282.397 mps), and Eisenstein's theory of special relativity:

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As the sharingan has already anticipated his movements, on many occasions.

Minato's FTG is a space time technique as he warps both space and time, in a sense creating a wormhole directly to his kunai. It works as a summoning jutsu according to the data book and is far superior to any type of shinshin. Neither is his shunshin faster than the sharingan, your just being fooled by the time skip between panels. Even madara was able to anticipate Bee's V1 speed without difficulty not to mention successfully guarding against it [

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Concerning comparison with Minato, your conclusion is wrong at this point. The reason is that Naruto and Minato achieved the same thing - that is to counter the fastest speed of Raikage. Minato did it with teleportation while Naruto did with raw speed in KM.

Your analysis with Madara is a pure fallacy, because Naruto wasn't using any special speed here. Being in BM and moving does not mean using the blitzing speed at all. This kind of analysis should be avoided because it will reduce your credibility.

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Concerning the OP, while I think his uses of Einstein's theory is misplaced, I agree with the conclusion that Naruto's BM eyes is greater than Sharingan. My reason as as follows:

1. One-tail Kyuubi cloak Naruto was able to speed blitz three tomoe Sharingan Sasuke until Sasuke resort to CS2. This show that in terms of vision power, this kyuubi mode beat Sasuke's 3 tomoes.

2. Naruto's can move slowly in KM or BM, but he has many level of speed in these mode among which one of them can achieve same result as FTG on Raikage. This does not mean he is greater than Minato or equal. I will say they have this Raikage evasion in common because we don't know the highest level of both of them.

3. How did Naruto find out the unique traits of the chakra of each shinobi so that he can mold his chakra to match theirs. How did he know the content of the chakra of each shinobi? My answer is that right now, Naruto can see chakra nature in his BM form. He can see the composition of the chakra. Otherwise, he cannot reproduce exactly the chakra. This can be obtained with Rinnegan, and it was also hinted in one the movie "inheritor of the will of fire", where Hiruko, the viallain, combined many bloodline and was able to detect the chakra nature of his opponents.


In conlcusion, while the OP used a very complicated method to state his opinion, there are many facts in the manga that suggest that Naruto's vision is right now greater than the Sharingan. EVen before Naruto, there have been lot of debate over Minato's eyes because he can see and time his evasion when fighting super speed Raikage. Some people even suggested that Minato was a diluted Uchiha, or had a KKG. Clearly, ignoring these facts at this point will result in a bigger disappointment, even bigger than the superiority of the Senju over the Uchiha in the Hashi_Madara era.


Note: If Sharingan comes from Juubi, and Kyuubi is the greatest piece of the Juubi, we can expect his eyes to be closed to that of Juubi. If Naruto is closed to Rikudo, you can expect him having eyes similar to Rikudo's.

 

[taladagah]

If you don't wanna read, go to the conclusion doobleydoo at the bottom. This includes a science infused analysis so please compensate if you do not understand. Google is your prostitute, do it to your will.

Alright we know many things about BM Naruto by now so I will list the information that is needed to understand why Naruto has eyes comparable to, if not superior to the Sharingan.

• BM Naruto has surpassed Minato and A in terms of speed
• Naruto is the fastest ninja in the history of the NarutoVerse

Minato is fast due to his Space Time Jutsu - Flying Thunder God (FTG). The jutsu is near instantaneous; Naruto has surpassed Minato in speed which means Naruto is faster than instantaneous - he is about the same speed, if not the same speed of light.



While moving at that speed, you would more easily see the effects of the Theory of Relitivity. To not hurt the heads of some people...

• Time is relative to speed
• The faster you move, the slower time appears to go
• For example, if you and your best friend were sitting down; you placed your hand on a stove while you friend was eating an apple - time will go slower for you

Keeping this is mind, when Naruto is blitzing across a battlefield or whatnot, things will slow-down for him. He would see more clarity and contrast while moving and due to the Tunnel Effect, this far surpasses those that a Sharingan can do. Due to his speed, and how time appears to go slower, he has the immediate time to turn around his head and look around - this means Naruto has better eyes than the Byukugan AND the Sharingan - of course this is the base Byukugan and not including the copying abilities of the Sharingan or the MS/EMS.

Conclusion:

• BM Naruto can move at the speed of light
• Time is relative - the faster you go, the more the difference appears
• Naruto is moving so fast that time goes very slow in contrast to him
• This gives him the ability to see things others cant
• This includes clarity, perception and the ability to look around
• Therefore Naruto eyes are better than the Base Sharingan or Byukugan

Thank you for reading.

u kno wut, i like reading all this allday while im at work n u did a good job honestly but i gotta think sometimes is it to far? really all the stuff everybody comes up with is irrelevant when u think of the fact that all the logic plot and anything that can possibly happen is completely at the discretion of kishi.

 

[taladagah]

if you want to use physics then take a look at this,

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if naruto had the speed of light then nobody should be able to block his punch,since according to this naruto's weight should be infinite,meaning his punch can one shot perfect susanoo.yet it failed to kill kisame.
plus minato's ftg is instant because it's a summoning that takes him from point A to point B without running any space between them.so naruto can never be faster than ftg.

i thought about that, but i gues it also can depend on the third hokages reaction speed vs. narutos action speed. for instance, the third has to think or maybe do a hand singnal or maybe even through a kunai and wait for it to get where he wants to be. idk but the raikage said he was just as fast or as fast as his father.

 

[BigBlade Master]

No logic thread, I disagree, he is not the fastest.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Don't try to use logic in a manga.

It doesn't work.

this
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[Waltz]

Nice try is all I have to say. Even if Naruto isn't faster than Minato, he is the closest one can get. My theory would still apply It seems you don't understand the theory of relativity...

Your claiming him of having speeds not depicted in his movements; a lack of canonical support.

Concerning comparison with Minato, your conclusion is wrong at this point. The reason is that Naruto and Minato achieved the same thing - that is to counter the fastest speed of Raikage. Minato did it with teleportation while Naruto did with raw speed in KM.

Your analysis with Madara is a pure fallacy, because Naruto wasn't using any special speed here. Being in BM and moving does not mean using the blitzing speed at all. This kind of analysis should be avoided because it will reduce your credibility.

Speculation based on the situation. You have no proof that he wasn't using shun-shin at that point, as the use of the jutsu itself is hardly donated in the manga.

 

[bigfatloser]

great theory.
however as stated kishis physics arent real physics.

this......