[Discussion] Muslims want peace, just not with a jewish or israeli state

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@Bold; You have no right to judge anyone. Just because you saw or know a few how hate Jews doesn't mean every single arab does. Think what you write, please. You are hurting others unknowingly.
You misunderstood me. I edited my post for clarity. What I originally meant was that I referred to individuals in the Arab states treating jews as scum hence they are scum U_U

And I'll have you know that my ancestors are Arabs so its not that I dislike them.
 
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I have read this is a true statement for many muslims in the middle east, but what about muslims who live outside of the middle east? Is this true about your personal opinion regarding Israel and a Jewish State?
Kinda of off topic, but related to OP:

You know, Christianity has a bad rap because so many people claim to be, but are clearly not. Luke warm so~so believers, bandwagon jumpers and such. If this is true (and it is) then the same can be applied to muslims. Dedicated muslims are radical. The bit about peace and acceptance is there, but isn't seen in places where they control. I've talked to two missionaries who have been in Afghanistan for several years now(8 or 9 I think), and even though they have brought schools, clean water and a clinic in to a region, being openly christian will still get your head cut off. Same in many places in Iraq (I know I was there).

Another missionary in Africa, Tanzania, that visited my church last week talked in part about Muslim recruits being trained to kill pastors, there was a huge attack last Easter (if memory serves) where the U.S embassy told many there not to attend church that day because they were aware of it themselves.

Does that mean every single Muslim is like that? No, don't be silly, many just want to love God, this is also why we are seeing droves come to Jesus in the middle east as missionaries efforts continue to expand in that region, they love God and want a deeper relationship.

Does that mean every region controlled is like that? No, but it's close, I can't come up with somewhere off the top of my head that isn't atm or headed in that direction.

That's my own experience and accounts I've heard first hand. For the record, I have a heart for the people of Iraq, they are not my enemy, not before I was a christian and was deployed over there, and not after. The Lord wants all his people to love Him and His son, I mean heck He loves me, so of course He still loves them as well.
 

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I have no hate against Muslims but how are they considered peaceful if they are commanded to attack someone if they make fun of their prophet? How does that even make sense? Please someone that is a Muslim, reply.
 

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Honestly, everyone needs to be able to poke fun of every religion equally without fear of reprisal. It’s the only way for people to lighten up, and thin out all the die hard extremists.
 
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The trouble is, the Qur'an has little definition in some parts, so some of it is open to interpretation and some Muslims do one of two things:

A) Use this as an excuse for unnecessary bloodshed.

or

B) Get easily led by those above.
 

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I have no hate against Muslims but how are they considered peaceful if they are commanded to attack someone if they make fun of their prophet? How does that even make sense? Please someone that is a Muslim, reply.
If you mean the people who was pissed off of the movie

I would say if anyone of them hurt innocent people than they are scum and they don't really apply their own religion rules

For me if i saw someone make fun of the prophet i would get mad and all but i wont try to kill !!


Think of it as someone making fun of your family member

You sure would get pissed at him /her .
 

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Reader Rupa Shah brings word of a truly amazing photography exhibition and labor of love by Norman Gershman, Besa: Muslims Who Saved Jews in WW II. It documents the Muslims of Albania and Kosovo who sheltered Jews during the Holocaust saving at least 2,000 lives. Not a single Jew died in all of Albania during the War. If you live in or near Washington D.C. you are privileged to be able to see it at the JCC until November 30th.

The pictures alone, when you see them will alternately bring you to tears and make you proud of the good of which humanity is capable. One image in particular shows a bearded old gentleman with his hand over his heart in a gesture of profound nobility. And this is the quotation Gershman attributes to him:

“We Bektashi see God everywhere, in everyone. God is in every pore and every cell, therefore all are God’s children. There cannot be infidels. There cannot be discrimination. If one sees a good face one is seeing the face of God. God is Beauty. Beauty is God. There is no God but God.”


as a jewish person living in israel, i'm sick of having to endure war every 5-10 years, i'm sick of having security guards at every school and hospital and every public place, i'm sick of reading about terrorist attacks or rocket launches in the newspaper and most of all i'm sick of people justifying it.

there is no peace because both sides don't want peace, too many idiots in israel don't want peace and too many idiots in palestine don't want peace. i read all the time how the current peace talks are a joke, no one expects them to actully succeed and both sides try their best to make it look like the other side blew the peace process. political egoism over people's lives.

i'm afraid that the majority of both sides, israel and the palestininans, won't rest until the other side is completly obliterated. and now we are in a phase where each side is trying to gain global acceptence for that future genocide. you know what? i'm not sick, i'm afraid...
 

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The quran is usually misinterpreted by many fellows, and use it as an excuse for jihad and other purposes and saying who kills a non believer or any of that sort will be granted eternal paradise, while in reality and in the Quran, there is no such verse that actually says or enlightens this claim. While it clearly states in the Quran

Allah does not wish injustice for any of His creatures.(Surah Ale Imran, 3:108)

"Whoever kills a human being, it is as if he had killed all mankind. Whoever saves the life of one, it is as if he had saved the life of all."

Many more, Most of the Muslims tend to ignore this, and say killin non believers is "swaab" which is wrong.

Muslims need a nuclear detonation of a nuclearbomb... . Then the wold is already more peaceful. Next north Korea then the world is full of peace.
This is one of the most offensive claim I've read, seeing if I actually read this right, or is it the way u mentioned makes it hard for me to comprehend?
 

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For nearly 800 years Jews, Christians and Muslims to coexist in a spirit of mutual respect during the islamic califat -- a situation never seen in Europe with such long time of peace, it was a situation that benefited all.

Muslims don't have to be taught about peace from western civilisations, Muslims doesn't have 1000 militaries bases around the world to steal all the wealth,bombing and kill everyone. Actually western imperialism is the worst treat for peace, they force laws in other countries, will treat anyone who doesn't agree or submit as terrorist and they also don't want muslim be solidar and united in one as before.
 

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I have no hate against Muslims but how are they considered peaceful if they are commanded to attack someone if they make fun of their prophet? How does that even make sense? Please someone that is a Muslim, reply.
Muslims are not instructed to attack someone if they insult the prophet. I can never figure out where they manage to justify there actions. Oh yeah, they cant. If you look at the large population of Muslims, if all of them attacked someone cos they made fun of the prophet then there would be carnage. It is only a extremist minority which nearly every religion has.
 

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You're mixing up Zionists and Jewish people. Zionists are the cause of the conflict in Palestine/Israel.

I'm a Muslim and I dislike Zionists just as much as I dislike extremists claiming to be Muslims. I don't have any negative feelings towards other religions and have many Christian and Jewish friends.
 

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why don't you stop looking at their religion and start looking at the fact that they are indeed human.. just like the rest of human kind.. jesus christ what's wrong with peaple these days..
 
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