[Discussion] multiple Tobi

[minatouzumaki17]

Zabuza was born when the villiage was called the Village of the Bloody Mist. Zabuza was obito's and kakashi age. Zabuza graduated the academy at the age of nine, so that means Yagura was being controlled before Obito was 9 years old. So I highly doubt a 9 year old Obito was powerful enough to control a mizukage jinchuuriki. Meaning someone else would be in control, the person who saved Obito.

Why Obito went evil? well, Tobi said to Kakashi I want to make a world where Heroes dont have to make pitiful excuses in front of graves. On that same page it shows Kakashi at a grave, Kakashi mourned Obito's death at the K.I.A Monument. So that must be Rin's grave .Obito saved Kakashi's life without hesitation, so he shouldn't be mad that kakashi was making excuses about his death, but mad about rins. I think the Original Tobi killed Rin in order to manipulate Obito to become evil. Like putting a genjutsu to make it seem like Kakashi abandoned Rin again or something

 

[Hipster Madara]

What does Zabuza have to do with anything?

 

[-Jiraiya-]

I don't know about time line or anything but I think the one who showed before Yagura and Kisame is the real Madara...
But later Tobi used the same mask to fool others.

 

[~Dream~]

What does Zabuza have to do with anything?

This. U_U

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

What does Zabuza have to do with anything?

it has everything to do with zabuza

 

[-Carnage-]

What does Zabuza have to do with anything?

it was just to show how old obito was, when "he" was the one controlling the fourth mizukage...and cuz obito wasnt an adult....there is a chance that there is another tobi that was controlling the mizukage..

@OT...i agree with the multiple tobis thing....but not with the reason obito went evil...im not saying its not possible though :scorps:

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

it was just to show how old obito was, when "he" was the one controlling the fourth mizukage...and cuz obito wasnt an adult....there is a chance that there is another tobi that was controlling the mizukage..

well, when "he" was controlling the mizukage, obito would have been roughly the same age give or take a few years. so, it wouldn't be illogical for there to be only one tobi. atleast IMO

 

[minatouzumaki17]

@Hipster Madara. Zabuza was 9 years old when the Mizukage (Yagura) was being controlled. Zabuza and Obito are the same age, so by that logic if Yagura was being by tobi that is Obito, Obito himself would be 9 at the time. The likelyhood of Obito at 9 being able to control a Mizukage is very unlikely thus Tobi would have to be an other person. When Naruto met Yagura its obvious that he isnt evil like his reign was as Mizukage. This shows that he was controlled a majority of the time as Mizukage.

I think it was an other puppet of the Original Tobi who showed his face to Kisame

 

[Pepsilover]

What does Zabuza have to do with anything?

idiot...

It is clear that topi is either more then one man, or more then one man has wielded the mask that identifies tobi.

If not, then plothole.

Simple.

 

[Vinnie]

This is what I've been saying the last couple of days. A predecessor Tobi.

We also have to remember that Kisame didn't see a Tobi mask in his flashback he saw and out line and thought it was Madara Uchiha. So it must have either been Madara or Izuna who looked very similar to him.

 

[-Carnage-]

well, when "he" was controlling the mizukage, obito would have been roughly the same age give or take a few years. so, it wouldn't be illogical for there to be only one tobi. atleast IMO

so you're saying that theres a chance that a kid obito was the one controlling the fourth mizukage???...cuz i think its pretty illogical for that to be true...so IMO there are two tobis(i have no clue on who the other one could be though xd )

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

@Hipster Madara. Zabuza was 9 years old when the Mizukage (Yagura) was being controlled. Zabuza and Obito are the same age, so by that logic if Yagura was being by tobi that is Obito, Obito himself would be 9 at the time. The likelyhood of Obito at 9 being able to control a Mizukage is very unlikely thus Tobi would have to be an other person. When Naruto met Yagura its obvious that he isnt evil like his reign was as Mizukage. This shows that he was controlled a majority of the time as Mizukage.

I think it was an other puppet of the Original Tobi who showed his face to Kisame

how do you know zabuza was 9? sorry if i missed something.

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

so you're saying that theres a chance that a kid obito was the one controlling the fourth mizukage???...cuz i think its pretty illogical for that to be true...so IMO there are two tobis(i have no clue on who the other one could be though xd )

well, when you see kisame he looks like he is in his mid through early 20's so the time frame for that part is really confusing

 

[Deidera]

I don't know about time line or anything but I think the one who showed before Yagura and Kisame is the real Madara...
But later Tobi used the same mask to fool others.

This!

 

[-Carnage-]

well, when you see kisame he looks like he is in his mid through early 20's so the time frame for that part is really confusing

true....but remember when zabuza was a kid and he killed his academy peers?
thats when tobi started to control the mizukage(thats when the village was known as the bloody mist, because of the inhumane way of testing the academy students)
so if there is only one tobi...then a kid obito(that is around the same age as a kid zabuza) was taking control of the mizukage...and i dont think that is possible since obito was good when he was a kid
but if there are two tobis...the older one would be the one controlling the mizukage...while obito is still good...and eventually obito becomes a "tobi" too...
im not sure if i explained this well...so i apologize if this didnt make sense xd :scorps:

 

[XxSageoftheSixpathsIIXx]

What does Zabuza have to do with anything?

Zabuza was a kid when Yagura the 3rd Mizukage was in control, which means that he was a kid when Kakashi and Obito where kids which means it makes no sense that Obito would be controlling Yagura! Because Obito controlled Yagura when he was an adult and Obito was a kid at the time.

 

[jaykuhz]

Nice, I agree.

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

true....but remember when zabuza was a kid and he killed his academy peers?
thats when tobi started to control the mizukage(thats when the village was known as the bloody mist, because of the inhumane way of testing the academy students)
so if there is only one tobi...then a kid obito(that is around the same age as a kid zabuza) was taking control of the mizukage...and i dont think that is possible since obito was good when he was a kid
but if there are two tobis...the older one would be the one controlling the mizukage...while obito is still good...and eventually obito becomes a "tobi" too...
im not sure if i explained this well...so i apologize if this didnt make sense xd :scorps:

ohhhhh now i get it, the whole time the village hidden in the mist was like that the mizukage was being controlled ok i got it now that makes more sense +rep for making it clear and not just going crazy and attacking me verbally

 

[-Carnage-]

ohhhhh now i get it, the whole time the village hidden in the mist was like that the mizukage was being controlled ok i got it now that makes more sense +rep for making it clear and not just going crazy and attacking me verbally

lol no problem xd...and thanks for the rep

 

[Pepsilover]

Also, when kisame meets madara/tobi, just look at his hair... Unless obito has fasion grow hair jutsu, then it is not obito at that given time.