Mu vs Killer Bee

[Beans2]

Location: Bee vs Taka
Intel: None
Starting Distance: 80 meters

 

[Blackdeath667]

muu low mid diffs

 

[Apêx1]

No restrictions?
-Bee easily dodges Jinton in v1 or v2.
-Bee uses ink clones in order to counter invisibility, since whenever Mu wants to prep Jinton, he needs to become visible, thus the clones notify the real Bee.
-v2 Bijuu Bomb can end if Mu is ever spotted.
-Bee outlasts

 

[Draphsin]

Killerbee takes it.

Muu gets destroyed in CQC, so his only chance is to fire off jinton from a distance. Bee will be wary of invisibility & can avoid jintons or tank physical blows with V2.

Once muu gets bee angry enough [assuming he has the chakra for it] he can always whirlwind & blow muu right out of the sky then nuke him.

 

[Blackdeath667]

No restrictions?
-Bee easily dodges Jinton in v1 or v2. he cannot dodge what he cannot see
-Bee uses ink clones in order to counter invisibility, since whenever Mu wants to prep Jinton, he needs to become visible, thus the clones notify the real Bee. muu is a senser
-v2 Bijuu Bomb can end if Mu is ever spotted. gaaras sand kept up with v2 Ay..muu dodged the surprise attack of it,also again muu can aim behind bee
-Bee outlasts

muu wins U_U

 

[Beans2]

No restrictions?
-Bee easily dodges Jinton in v1 or v2.
-Bee uses ink clones in order to counter invisibility, since whenever Mu wants to prep Jinton, he needs to become visible, thus the clones notify the real Bee.
-v2 Bijuu Bomb can end if Mu is ever spotted.
-Bee outlasts

Intel is none...Bee will have to witness Mu's abilities before he will be able to effectively counter them.

 

[Blackdeath667]

Killerbee takes it.

Muu gets destroyed in CQC, so his only chance is to fire off jinton from a distance. Bee will be wary of invisibility & can avoid jintons or tank physical blows with V2.
ononki and gaara were wary of him but would have been killed if not for naruto
Once muu gets bee angry enough [assuming he has the chakra for it] he can always whirlwind & blow muu right out of the sky then nuke him.

why cant muu just fly high enough to avoid it... considering that onoki jinton can nuke and island, and muu is better at jinton..whos too say muu cant nuke the battlefield

 

[Haizaki]

Hmmm if Mu stays up the sky, how's whirlwind gonna hit him? Doesn't that mean while B wraps himself and starts spinning, Mu has a chance to prepare and fire Jinton?

 

[Apêx1]

Intel is none...Bee will have to witness Mu's abilities before he will be able to effectively counter them.

True, true. I still don't see how Jinton hits. It has a prep and it takes time to reach its destination since Mu will be far from Bee, he only needs a moments notice to evade it. More so, with no intel for either side, there's potential for v2 to blitz in the same way he blitzed Kisame.
Edit: Not gonna bother replying to someone I cannot quote, since he believes replying to me in my own quote is a clever idea.

 

[Draphsin]

why cant muu just fly high enough to avoid it...

Not at the speed he can pull it out & use it, before muu realizes whats going on he gets blown away.

considering that onoki jinton can nuke and island, and muu is better at jinton..whos too say muu cant nuke the battlefield

Feats of onoki nuking an island? Yes he would've killed the turtle but even a small jinton could do that. I would like to see onoki bust an island before I give him the credit. & Btw onoki has shown better jinton feats & even matched muu when they clashed. If anything onoki is on par or even stronger at using jinton than muu, not to mention onoki's experience with the jutsu definitely surpasses his master's who died much younger than onoki's age.

 

[Blackdeath667]

Not at the speed he can pull it out & use it, before muu realizes whats going on he gets blown away.



Feats of onoki nuking an island? Yes he would've killed the turtle but even a small jinton could do that. I would like to see onoki bust an island before I give him the credit. & Btw onoki has shown better jinton feats & even matched muu when they clashed. If anything onoki is on par or even stronger at using jinton than muu, not to mention onoki's experience with the jutsu definitely surpasses his master's who died much younger than onoki's age.

imma give you the jinton part but to be honest that statement implies that onoki>muu lol


why would bee just go full 8tails and do that with someone he has no intel on...whats too say that before he does that muu hits him with a jinton..also muu is a top of the line senser with the speed feats to back it up...if he is high enough to get away from the twister i dont see why he cant

 

[Haizaki]

Feats of onoki nuking an island? Yes he would've killed the turtle but even a small jinton could do that. I would like to see onoki bust an island before I give him the credit. & Btw onoki has shown better jinton feats & even matched muu when they clashed. If anything onoki is on par or even stronger at using jinton than muu, not to mention onoki's experience with the jutsu definitely surpasses his master's who died much younger than onoki's age.

You want to see feats when it was stopped because he could blow it up and it was already said

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[Apêx1]

You want to see feats when it was stopped because he could blow it up and it was already said

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Yet the Jinton which was empowered by Tsuande herself was far beneath Island level. Sound right or nah..

 

[Draphsin]

imma give you the jinton part but to be honest that statement implies that onoki>muu lol

Nah, onoki may have more powerful jinton but muus abilities along with his jinton make him deadlier to deal with in battle.

why would bee just go full 8tails and do that with someone he has no intel on...whats too say that before he does that muu hits him with a jinton..

I said if muu gets bee angry enough he would do this, bee starts out by using CQC. If muu engages then he will get taken out, so his best bet is to retreat, become invisible, & try to attack from a distance.

Once he does this bee becomes aware of his invisibility & can pull up a cloak + search the area/use clones to cover blindspots, then when muu uses jinton bee will be ready to avoid it, & with that kind of attack now known to bee he won't hesitate to take him out quickly.

Muu will most likely be flying as well so that will give bee the idea to quickly whirlwind to throw muu off balance.

also muu is a top of the line senser with the speed feats to back it up...if he is high enough to get away from the twister i dont see why he cant

Muu's jinton has a distance, & without info he won't even know that bee is a perfect jin who can go BM, so the element of surprise is on bee's side. & Unless muu knows exactly how far the whirlwind's range [

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] is then he will most likely be within range & won't be able to escape in time [well maybe he can split].

 

[Haizaki]

Yet the Jinton which was empowered by Tsuande herself was far beneath Island level. Sound right or nah..

Man not gonna lie it could go either way. The Jinton I'm referring to was the Conical one he was going to use against Deidara.

 

[Apêx1]

Man not gonna lie it could go either way. The Jinton I'm referring to was the Conical one he was going to use against Deidara.

I agree, Bee's lack of sensing makes this fight hard to decide, and the fact his strongest jutsu comes from his BM makes it even harder, since Jinton would destroy his BM. I don't even know, if Bee can blitz in the beginning stages, or uses TBB in his v2 form as soon as Mu goes invisible, he should win.

 

[Benjamin King]

''They have what is called polarized vision which means that different amounts of light coming in. Many experts believe that they have the ability to actually control the amount of light that comes into them and this is why they can see so well. It is hard to test out that theory though due to finding ways of measuring the lighting that they can see from the inside outward.''

''The arms of the Octopus have suction cups on them that are very tiny. In them are highly sensitive feelers that allow them to touch their environment and to feel sensations from it. The sense of touch they develop from these feelers is amazing. They will feel all around in order to get a good overview of the area they are in. They want to make sure where they settle and where they look for food is safe for them.''

Octopus can sense -

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And that's been established, Apex and Draphsin added the rest. Killer Bee low diff.​

 

[NSUNSR]

''They have what is called polarized vision which means that different amounts of light coming in. Many experts believe that they have the ability to actually control the amount of light that comes into them and this is why they can see so well. It is hard to test out that theory though due to finding ways of measuring the lighting that they can see from the inside outward.''

''The arms of the Octopus have suction cups on them that are very tiny. In them are highly sensitive feelers that allow them to touch their environment and to feel sensations from it. The sense of touch they develop from these feelers is amazing. They will feel all around in order to get a good overview of the area they are in. They want to make sure where they settle and where they look for food is safe for them.''

Octopus can sense -

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And that's been established, Apex and Draphsin added the rest. Killer Bee low diff.​

Are you mine science teacher?

 

[Benjamin King]

Are you mine science teacher?

If manga doesn't contradict a scientific fact, it's applicable.​

 

[Beans2]

True, true. I still don't see how Jinton hits. It has a prep and it takes time to reach its destination since Mu will be far from Bee, he only needs a moments notice to evade it. More so, with no intel for either side, there's potential for v2 to blitz in the same way he blitzed Kisame.
Edit: Not gonna bother replying to someone I cannot quote, since he believes replying to me in my own quote is a clever idea.

Mu can land a jinton attack on Bee by going invisible, flying behind Bee in his blind spot, charge up a jinton while he's looking the other way, then turn him to dust. Mu could simply fly behind a moutain and nuke him with jinton from behind the rock, and because of Mu's sensory abilities he can still locate Bee despite being behind a rock. A blitz isn't happening at 80 meters, moreso since Bee starts in base and Mu wil most likely immediately take to the skies.

Are you having trouble quoting me for some reason?

''They have what is called polarized vision which means that different amounts of light coming in. Many experts believe that they have the ability to actually control the amount of light that comes into them and this is why they can see so well. It is hard to test out that theory though due to finding ways of measuring the lighting that they can see from the inside outward.''

''The arms of the Octopus have suction cups on them that are very tiny. In them are highly sensitive feelers that allow them to touch their environment and to feel sensations from it. The sense of touch they develop from these feelers is amazing. They will feel all around in order to get a good overview of the area they are in. They want to make sure where they settle and where they look for food is safe for them.''

Octopus can sense -

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And that's been established, Apex and Draphsin added the rest. Killer Bee low diff.​

[1] Gyuki isn't an octopus, it's a tailed beast with octopus-like characteristics, so it does not necessarily have all the real-life traits associated with octopi
[2] There have been moments when Bee could have made use of sensing abilities but didn't display any
[3] Those types of sensing probably only work underwater, in an octopus's natural habitat, and are completely gone or extremely dulled when out of water. Octopi in real life die after what, 10 minutes out of water?
[4] Mu can extinguish his sense of smell

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[5] Mu can go completely invisible. Light goes right through him. Polarized vision doesn't mean anything changes, it does not matter how much light can enter the octopus's eyes since light shines right through him.
[6] Mu can fly so he won't create vibrations on the ground with his footsteps, so that second type of sensing definitely won't work.