Mu vs Gengetsu

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☯Condition:
The two are brought back to life using Rinne Tensei (shit ass story, just go with it) and fight each other to the death.

☯Location:
The location were Madara fought the Five Kage


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None


☯Intel:
Manga, Anime.


☯Intentions:
To stop the opposing force from interfering with their objective, no matter what means they must use to ensure success.
 

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I wonder how Muu was killed by Gengetsu.
 

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I wonder how Muu was killed by Gengetsu.

Probably has several tricks that we haven't seen. No way would Gengetsu compare in a fight with Mu feats wise.
 

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They tie like in canon.
 

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Probably has several tricks that we haven't seen. No way would Gengetsu compare in a fight with Mu feats wise.
Joki boy is a pain to deal with for Muu
 

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:lol

Jinton destroys trollkage, he remains out of the mists range with relative ease.
 

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They tie like they did in canon.
 

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Someone link when they tied in canon? Or was it merely stated that they came to a draw....

I don't see how trollkage competes with Mu based off the feats they were given.
 

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Someone link when they tied in canon? Or was it merely stated that they came to a draw....

I don't see how trollkage competes with Mu based off the feats they were given.

 

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But.....Feats place Mu>Trollkage

You don't know if Trollkage had a conditonary counter to his jutsu at that point, or something.

Isn't that similar to saying automatically Sasori > 3rd Kazekage (without the puppet obv)


Or like saying

Hanzo>All three Sannin.

Despite feats saying otherwise.
 

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But.....Feats place Mu>Trollkage

You don't know if Trollkage had a conditonary counter to his jutsu at that point, or something.

Isn't that similar to saying automatically Sasori > 3rd Kazekage (without the puppet obv)


Or like saying

Hanzo>All three Sannin.

Despite feats saying otherwise.

Feats are irrelevant when Mu's feats only show him with a single offensive jutsu and a single defensive jutsu. Feats dictate They had an ongoing rivalry, and there's no presented reason that lets us assume that he had some special counter to his jutsu the final time around.

If Sasori beat Kazekage in a direct fight, then yes, Sasori would kill him in a VS thread too.

Hanzo>All 3 Sannin at the time that they were beaten. That's a fact. Now? Nope.
 

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To be fair Zexion Muu and Oonoki should have beat a Madara that didn't use Ps.
 

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Feats are irrelevant when Mu's feats only show him with a single offensive jutsu and a single defensive jutsu. Feats dictate They had an ongoing rivalry, and there's no presented reason that lets us assume that he had some special counter to his jutsu the final time around.

If Sasori beat Kazekage in a direct fight, then yes, Sasori would kill him in a VS thread too.

Hanzo>All 3 Sannin at the time that they were beaten. That's a fact. Now? Nope.


What had changed? You have no reasoning that there was any changes though.


But, Jinton shits on everything the trollkage has....along with flight > his genjutsu.

How does it end in a draw?


Wasn't Kin and Jin stated to kill Tobirama with a bunch of fodders? Is that applicable?
 

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What had changed? You have no reasoning that there was any changes though.

Wasn't Kin and Jin stated to kill Tobirama with a bunch of fodders? Is that applicable?

There doesn't need to be a change for them to end up killing each other. If anything their battles all ended inconclusively since they both lived up until the point of the final battle.

Pretty sure that they got jumped.
 

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But.....Feats place Mu>Trollkage

By feats? How?

-Clam Genjutsu blocks chakra detection = sensory nullify
-Nor does have feats to find the Clam, or incoming attacks under genjutsu.
-Canonically stated Muu struggled against Joki Boi.

If I were to say by "feats", Gengetsu wins.
 

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There doesn't need to be a change for them to end up killing each other. If anything their battles all ended inconclusively since they both lived up until the point of the final battle.

Pretty sure that they got jumped.

I suppose.

By feats? How?

-Clam Genjutsu blocks chakra detection = sensory nullify

He can fly over the mist, and if he's not in the genjutsu pretty sure his sensing would still work.

-Nor does have feats to find the Clam, or incoming attacks under genjutsu.

Look above.

-Canonically stated Muu struggled against Joki Boi.

Pretty sure one can make the anology of a similar time when one could tell it wasn't really the case, but struggled doesn't mean much.

If I were to say by feats, Gengetsu wins.

Nah
 

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He can fly over the mist, and if he's not in the genjutsu pretty sure his sensing would still work

If that possible, he has no jutsu from that range so its a waste of time. He comes back in range to attack only to be fooled again.

Pretty sure one can make the anology of a similar time when one could tell it wasn't really the case, but struggled doesn't mean much.

Not sure what your talking about. But by feats Joki out easily interference with any Jinton use.
 

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If that possible, he has no jutsu from that range so its a waste of time. He comes back in range to attack only to be fooled again.



Not sure what your talking about. But by feats Joki out easily interference with any Jinton use.

How high do you think this range extends, the clam doesn't move and he can Jinton it from the air.


Struggled with, but eventually overcome smh.
 

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How high do you think this range extends, the clam doesn't move and he can Jinton it from the air.

[ ]. Dont know the exact range, but it reaches in the air and was stated to be a wide field genjutsu. Jinton isnt having the same range as the mist for sure.

Also read chapter 552 compare to this scan[ ] it had to move

Struggled with, but eventually overcome smh.

Right because Muu exploit the casters weakness not that he overcame the clone itself.
 
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