Mu and onooki have counters to Amatratsu

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

So the tsuchikage pair were up against itachi and kisame in a debate on who would win the fight I chose the tsuchikage pair
But that isn't the issue many itachi fanboys or itachi "supporters" seem to think that he can one shot both of them and solo them by himself -_- :| I think that is bullshit here's why

Curious why does everyone think itachi Amatratsu is so fast (I get why they think sasukes is) but why itachi's I know it's suppose to spawn but clearly it doesn't. It travels which is why when Ay dodged it it continued to go backwards until it hit something (samurai)

From what I remember hebi sasuke was able to outrun itachi amatratsu

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I could b wrong but I remember that fight. Itachi was tryin to Amatratsu everything kept using it while turinging his head to follow sasuke and from what I see the image shows for brief moment sasuke was outrunning it.
Why because in order for Amatratsu to work u have to have target in sight if the target is constantly moving will it work.

Wasn't it also stated tht itachi is proficient with Amatratsu (compared to sasuke) due to lack of use because of chakra consumption (I mean look at Ms Sasuke lol)

Both onooki and Mu r in the air plus >>>> way faster then hebi sasuke

Also even if they couldn't avoid it Mu can split himself the go invisible to regenerate

and onooki can rap himself in his golem or stay behind on the golem back (using it as shield similar to what he did to Ay) and do the weight thing on it so it can move really fast and be really heavy when needed be

All I'm saying is both onooki can Mu have counters to Amatratsu


So yeah what do y'all think

 

[Bronze]

You didn't really need to make it that detailed. Amatersu is close range technique. Since Onoki and Muu fly, they are out of Amatersu's range, which means it fails.​

 

[DMT]

Finally someone make this..


Both can fly .. it's simple .


agree ..

 

[Gagster]

Yes, we know. They can both fly and Ama is slow as molasses on a winter Sunday. It's pretty obvious.

 

[Umari Senju]

I agree. Many Uchiha supporters like to believe that Amateratsu can one shot anyone. But in canon it has actually NEVER defeated anyone. Everyone who was pitted against Amateratsu had some form of counter. Look at Kabuto who shifted the ground to swallow up Amateratsu. This alone should be a good indicator that Donton users should fair pretty well against Amateratsu by creating earth barriers and domes around themselve when it spawns.

Your argument about going invisible is a great counter for Muu, as is spitting out an earth golem to shield Oonoki. And of course hitting a flying target is much more difficult than hitting a running one XD

 

[PYROVT]

1 - ameterasu need not necesarrily travel , we can look at it this was since sasuke was seeing raikage at that spot he focussed on it but raikage was fast and moved away but sasuke's eye mechanically could not register it that quickly since raikage was missing it spawned on the object much further at the same spot

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Finally someone make this..


Both can fly .. it's simple .


agree ..

It's just pissing me off -_- both onooki and Mu r some of fav Kage in top 5 and fanboys or supporters continue to think itachi can solo them with just Amatratsu... Tbh in tht fight team tschikage to me wins high diff and the high diff only comes from kisame... To me itachi is the weak link of his group in this fight. Not saying tht he's weak but he isn't soloing either tschikage

Both Mu and onooki to me r stronger then itachi and if there ever was top 20 or w.e they would rank higher then him

 

[slaton02]

Uchiha fanboys be annoying with that, even madara called ama trash. I think itachi and kisame would win since kisame would absorb jinton but if they found a way to take kisame they win.

 

[LuckyMan]

Don't let those fanboys rustle your jimmies. You can't reason with a fanboy. Its best to avoid them and stick to the serious people.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

1 - ameterasu need not necesarrily travel , we can look at it this was since sasuke was seeing raikage at that spot he focussed on it but raikage was fast and moved away but sasuke's eye mechanically could not register it that quickly since raikage was missing it spawned on the object much further at the same spot

But if it didn't travel it would've stayed in same spot as raikage and just either vanished or try to burn air it travels because it continued on to hit the samerai which was a considerable distance away from the fight.. Also u clearly see in this scan sasuke outrunning it ...

 

[Nagato fan01]

Can't they counter it with there particle style too? :\

 

[Dãrth1]

Even without Ama, just look and his eyes and boom! You lose

 

[409fusion]

Ur right about everything except one thing.
Amateratsu does spawn, it doesnt travel. It gives the illusion of it travelling because itachi's point of focus is moving constantly.
But amateratsu is a bit slow, it doesnt spawn instantaneously.

 

[Umari Senju]

Uchiha fanboys be annoying with thay, even madara called ama trash. I think itachi and kisame would since kisame would absorb jinton.

True but Kisame is also at a disadvantage since both Muu and Oonoki use his elemental weakness. SO he would have to heavily rely on Sameheda for this battle. But backed by Itachi would help compensate for this weakness. Once Muu goe's invisilbe though things will get difficult for the Akatsuki duo though as His chakra is completely masked meaning Sharingan isn't going to see his chakra. And as long as he is not split he can blast his jinton from an unexpected locations when the 2 are dealing with Oonoki who is strong enough to stop a single meteor drop with his weight lighten jutsu.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Uchiha fanboys be annoying with thay, even madara called ama trash. I think itachi and kisame would since kisame would absorb jinton.

The thing about tht sameheada takes time to absorb something granted it absorbs at abnormal speeds but at same time it states for jinton once it touches something it disintegrates it upon contact if sameheada try to absorb it it would surely b disintegrated as it is not tht big and onooki and mu can shoot off jinton a that disintegrate the size of legged Susannos ..

 

[DMT]

It's just pissing me off -_- both onooki and Mu r some of fav Kage in top 5 and fanboys or supporters continue to think itachi can solo them with just Amatratsu... Tbh in tht fight team tschikage to me wins high diff and the high diff only comes from kisame... To me itachi is the weak link of his group in this fight. Not saying tht he's weak but he isn't soloing either tschikage

Both Mu and onooki to me r stronger then itachi and if there ever was top 20 or w.e they would rank higher then him

lol I know .. they think itachi solos both of them with totsuka ..

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Ur right about everything except one thing.
Amateratsu does spawn, it doesnt travel. It gives the illusion of it travelling because itachi's point of focus is moving constantly.
But amateratsu is a bit slow, it doesnt spawn instantaneously.

If it spawns why does it continue to travel

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When something spawns it spawns in tht exact area no travel past it what's so ever

 

[iFlowMotion]

They counter it easily however with strategy he could hit them.

Itachi and Kisame win the fight for me though. Extreme High Dif. IMO

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

lol I know .. they think itachi solos both of them with totsuka ..

:| it has no speed feats the only thing it managed to capture was a bijuu sized hydra which oro got caught by surprise

And a crippled (Idc if he got the chakra to use legs clearly his legs has not been jn use for awhile so he was really weird in terms of speed) mindless nagato who was being controlled by kabuto who also was surprised on that tech

Both Mu and onooki r far from slow and r in the air -_-

 

[Solog0d]

Sasuke's amaterasu > ohnoki and Mù.

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Clearly it spawned. (he got better Controll over Amaterasu ) you cannot deny this


on Itachi i agree, Sasukes ama is far superior to his. itachi his a noob on amaterasu​

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it didn't travel here either.

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