Mu and Minato vs Gaara and Tobirama

[Beans2]

Minato and Mu vs Gaara and Tobirama

Location: Desert
Intel: Full
Conditions: All are alive, Gaara is War Arc (no Shukaku)
Restrictions: None
Starting Distance: 40 meters

 

[KidGamer65]

Minato and Mu win with ease.

-Minato vs Tobirama is nothing but a battle of speed. When it comes to Hiraishin, Tobirama might have the upper hand due to superior striking speed (Able to tag Juubito 5 times before getting his body ripped in half) and reactions (Reacting to Juubito's Shunshin while Base Minato has no feat or statement that would lead me to believe he's better than Tobirama in this department)

-Gaara vs. Mu is nothing higher than a mid diff win for Mu. Its as simple as this. Gaara needed Onoki's help to beat Mu in canon, Sand can't defend against Jinton, and Mu can go invisible, thus Gaara can't catch him, especially since he has knowledge on Sensor Sand this time around. Mu turns invisible, swings around to Gaara's blind spot and turns him to dust.

Then he helps Minato beat down Tobirama.

 

[Beans2]

Minato and Mu win with ease.

-Minato vs Tobirama is nothing but a battle of speed. When it comes to Hiraishin, Tobirama might have the upper hand due to superior striking speed (Able to tag Juubito 5 times before getting his body ripped in half) and reactions (Reacting to Juubito's Shunshin while Base Minato has no feat or statement that would lead me to believe he's better than Tobirama in this department)

-Gaara vs. Mu is nothing higher than a mid diff win for Mu. Its as simple as this. Gaara needed Onoki's help to beat Mu in canon, Sand can't defend against Jinton, and Mu can go invisible, thus Gaara can't catch him, especially since he has knowledge on Sensor Sand this time around. Mu turns invisible, swings around to Gaara's blind spot and turns him to dust.

Then he helps Minato beat down Tobirama.

I was sort of thinking Gaara and Tobirama would be workin' together. Like, Tobirama tags a few little patches of sand and Gaara spreads the islands of sand around so Tobirama can quickly teleport himself and/or Gaara out of harm's way to one of these little sand islands when Mu is loading a jinton. Or Tobirama simply marks some kunai and Gaara spreads them around the battlefield with his sand.

(Though it should be noted Minato and Mu have equal striking speed with jinton due to Minato's ability to teleport it at his opponents through a space-time barrier.)

 

[KidGamer65]

I was sort of thinking Gaara and Tobirama would be workin' together. Like, Tobirama tags a few little patches of sand and Gaara spreads the islands of sand around so Tobirama can quickly teleport himself and/or Gaara out of harm's way to one of these little sand islands when Mu is loading a jinton. Or Tobirama simply marks some kunai and Gaara spreads them around the battlefield with his sand.

It'll be harder for Tobirama to focus on saving Gaara, when he'll have his hands full with Minato. Not to mention that's impossible unless his chakra is touching Gaara, or unless he is touching Gaara himself. Otherwise he'll have to go to Gaara, grab him, and then warp away, all while he's fighting Minato and all before Jinton hits.

He can't do it.

 

[Sakura x Ino]

Minato solos

 

[ARGUS]

beans
Give tobirama edos to make this fair fight

Muu has the ability to pretty mch one shot gaara. And with tobirama lacking edos
Means that he would get buttraped against minato and muu

 

[Beans2]

beans
Give tobirama edos to make this fair fight

Muu has the ability to pretty mch one shot gaara. And with tobirama lacking edos
Means that he would get buttraped against minato and muu

ET isnt restricted

 

[ARGUS]

ET isnt restricted

yeah but we don't know what edos would tobirama use. And how many
Either way. Even if ET isn't restricted Muu and Minato would win

--minato can still use contract seal on the edos

--he can use gamabunta oil to counter gaaras sand and allow muu to eradicate his defense through jinton

--tobirama then gets stalled by gamabunta through food cart destroyer as his edos and him get turned to dust especially seeig how he has no way of locating muu at all

 

[DMT]

Cant muu make minato invisible and give him the ability to fly or even carrying him ?

 

[ARGUS]

Cant muu make minato invisible and give him the ability to fly or even carrying him ?

most likely no.
Muu lacks the feat of using weighted boulder jutsu
And his invisibility is something that's only unique to him since he's able to completely hide his presence

 

[Minato namikaze123]

Muu or Minato both can solo..!!!

 

[ARGUS]

Muu or Minato both can solo..!!!

lol no they don't

 

[Touken]

If ET isn't restricted then I'd give it to team 2.

 

[Hyphen]

Truthfully I don't like any threads that have Minato vs Tobirama, it would be a never ending fight where neither side will concede unless Minato is edo I guess.

Anyways I don't see how Mu actually beats Gaara given that intel is full for both and it's not like Gaara is going to sit their and try to tank Jinton with his sand especially since he has knowledge of it's capabilities.

 

[jiraiya nindo]

Truthfully I don't like any threads that have Minato vs Tobirama, it would be a never ending fight where neither side will concede unless Minato is edo I guess.

Anyways I don't see how Mu actually beats Gaara given that intel is full for both and it's not like Gaara is going to sit their and try to tank Jinton with his sand especially since he has knowledge of it's capabilities.

Yeah, if intel is full on both then I favor tobirama and gaara. minato beats tobirama in terms of FTG but tobirama has ET which basically levels that playing field. Plus, tobirama supposedly has techs that can take advantage of ET (which we really haven't seen yet besides that one exploding tag tech).

Muu is very dangerous but I don't see him beating Gaara, as the new generation should surpass the old and Muu is generation 2 tsuchikage while gaara is generation 5 kazekage.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Minato and Mu win with ease.

-Minato vs Tobirama is nothing but a battle of speed. When it comes to Hiraishin, Tobirama might have the upper hand due to superior striking speed (Able to tag Juubito 5 times before getting his body ripped in half) and reactions (Reacting to Juubito's Shunshin while Base Minato has no feat or statement that would lead me to believe he's better than Tobirama in this department)

-Gaara vs. Mu is nothing higher than a mid diff win for Mu. Its as simple as this. Gaara needed Onoki's help to beat Mu in canon, Sand can't defend against Jinton, and Mu can go invisible, thus Gaara can't catch him, especially since he has knowledge on Sensor Sand this time around. Mu turns invisible, swings around to Gaara's blind spot and turns him to dust.

Then he helps Minato beat down Tobirama.

Bro...Minato Doesn't Need Help To Beat Tobirama...When It Comes To FTG Minato Is More Versatile & He Has Marked Kunais Plus His Shunshin Far Surpassed Tobirama's...If Tobirama Summons Edos Minato Will Summon Bonta...
Base Minato Can Beat Tobirama High Diff...SM,KCM & BM Will Make It Easier...

 

[Rιver]

Minato and Mu win with ease.

-Minato vs Tobirama is nothing but a battle of speed. When it comes to Hiraishin, Tobirama might have the upper hand due to superior striking speed (Able to tag Juubito 5 times before getting his body ripped in half) and reactions (Reacting to Juubito's Shunshin while Base Minato has no feat or statement that would lead me to believe he's better than Tobirama in this department)

-Gaara vs. Mu is nothing higher than a mid diff win for Mu. Its as simple as this. Gaara needed Onoki's help to beat Mu in canon, Sand can't defend against Jinton, and Mu can go invisible, thus Gaara can't catch him, especially since he has knowledge on Sensor Sand this time around. Mu turns invisible, swings around to Gaara's blind spot and turns him to dust.

Then he helps Minato beat down Tobirama.

Striking speed is irrelevant in front of the almighty Kawazu Kumite.

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[Sosaa]

Mu and minato. Minato is a beast and Mu is almost unbeatable. Minato is portrayed stronger than Tobirama and Mu would have rekt garra with jinton

 

[KidGamer65]

Striking speed is irrelevant in front of the almighty Kawazu Kumite.

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The same Sage Mode that Minato can't effectively use?

Bro...Minato Doesn't Need Help To Beat Tobirama...When It Comes To FTG Minato Is More Versatile & He Has Marked Kunais Plus His Shunshin Far Surpassed Tobirama's...If Tobirama Summons Edos Minato Will Summon Bonta...
Base Minato Can Beat Tobirama High Diff...SM,KCM & BM Will Make It Easier...

Not really. Tobirama can mark normal Kunais, he can mark the area, and he can teleport to clones. So their Hiraishin isn't different enough to warrant Tobirama's loss. His Shunshin didn't "far surpass" Tobirama's, its just better, that's all that was said. Not to mention Shunshin is irrelevant when they will be relying on Hiraishin and nothing less.

-Tobirama has shown much faster striking speed than Minato has.

-Tobirama's reaction timing has also shown to be faster, based on feats.

-If Minato summons Bunta in response to Edos being summoned, Bunta dies to Gojo.

Tobirama vs Base Minato goes either way, and as of late, I might favor Tobirama if summonings aren't involved for either person. If they are...I'd still favor Tobirama as Gojo>Toads.

 

[Great Master Minato]

The same Sage Mode that Minato can't effectively use?

Not really. Tobirama can mark normal Kunais, he can mark the area, and he can teleport to clones. So their Hiraishin isn't different enough to warrant Tobirama's loss. His Shunshin didn't "far surpass" Tobirama's, its just better, that's all that was said. Not to mention Shunshin is irrelevant when they will be relying on Hiraishin and nothing less.

-Tobirama has shown much faster striking speed than Minato has.

-Tobirama's reaction timing has also shown to be faster, based on feats.

-If Minato summons Bunta in response to Edos being summoned, Bunta dies to Gojo.

Tobirama vs Base Minato goes either way, and as of late, I might favor Tobirama if summonings aren't involved for either person. If they are...I'd still favor Tobirama as Gojo>Toads.

@Bold With Ma & Pa On His Shoulders He'll Get Permanent SM So That's Not A Problem...

Tobirama Has To Mark Kunais While Minato Already Has Prepared Kunais...That's The Difference...

By Feats Minato's Shunshin Is Way Faster Than Tobirama's...Tobirama Arrived At The Battle Minutes After Minato...

Both Minato & Tobirama Can React To Each Other Unless One Of Them Have A FTG Mark On The Other One's Body...

Bunta Can Jump Out Of Gojo's Range...