Ms Sasuke vs Sm Naruto (Read inside)

[NarutoIndra]

MS Sasuke wins mid-high diff.
Edit: confused, if you are stating Naruto starts with the summons, he easily wins.

 

[Fecal Matter]

MS Sasuke wins very high difficulty.

 

[shelke]

MS Sasuke wins Mid-difference at most. Frog Song was used in the pipes and that too at nearly point-blank range. In an open space like that, it's literally useless. Not only that, it takes a LOT of while, a LOT of Sage Chakra, and would result in a LOT of needless time wastage which can be utilized to absorb Natural Energy, as the toads will not be able to do so in that time.

Manda overwhelms Gamabunta easily, as he had both Katsuya and him on ropes. He literally almost devoured Katsyua and Gamabunta and used bunta's katana nicely against him. Had it not been for Tsunade intervening, Manda would have eaten Bunta alive. It was a three on one fight, four on one actually, as Jiraiya used his Katon attack with Bunta's oil as well. His unhinged Jaw was as big as the entire Body of gamabunta. Don't take manda that lightly.

Sasuke should be able to summon any snake Orochimaru has or he himself has at any point in the manga, as he has a contract with them. Aoda should decimate Gamakichi as well, as the snakes have tougher bodies and can shed skin and go underground as well. Sasuke as a LOT of advantages with summons alone. He is also faster and has counters for FRS. Naruto shouldn't be able to use more than 10 of them before his chakra hits zero.

They are easily avoidable as Deva dodged and stabbed clones at the same time, and dodged, summoned down the bird-summon to change his trajectory, and Third Raikage - who has NO V2 Armour and is considerably slower than V1 Ae - wasn't even trying. Even great fireball techniques would do just fine against FRS. Even Hebi has a chance given the whole scenario.

 

[Bieber]

MS Sasuke wins.

 

[AGoodBoy]

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Frog song is easily spotted as genjutsu the second it's heard by a dojutsu user( at least ). Naruto's only shot at victory is already shot in the foot. Once sasuke hears these frog noises, clearly coming from the frog's mouths, all sasuke need do is shoot 1 of them with an enton arrow and it's bye bye.

FRS( only has 2 shots ), Odama rasengan, rasengan, odama rasengan barrage, all can't get through a V1 susano'o (as evidenced by madara), therefore they're completely hopeless against V2 susano'o. Any semblance of hope naruto has from FRS is destroyed by enton coated susano'o which would destroy the FRS and break it down into a harmless(for sasuke) enton wheel.

Boss summons are a non-factor. Manda canonically solo'd bunta(the strongest one) in a 2v1. Manda + aoda decimates the toads. Sasuke's hawk just gives him that added aerial advantage.

Boss summons, frog song, and rasengan variants are all useless in this fight. Even SM will become useless after 5 minutes, and without someone to aid as a distraction( them dead toads ), naruto will never be able to enter it again.

MS sasuke destroys SM naruto, but naruto has too many wankers. Half of them still believe sm naruto can take on EMS sasuke... Rofl.

 

[Voidstep]

MS Sasuke wins Mid-difference at most. Frog Song was used in the pipes and that too at nearly point-blank range. In an open space like that, it's literally useless. Not only that, it takes a LOT of while, a LOT of Sage Chakra, and would result in a LOT of needless time wastage which can be utilized to absorb Natural Energy, as the toads will not be able to do so in that time.

nice fan fiction there.
when you go check the skill... it clearly says that it was developed in the Mount Myobokuzan pipes and that it can only be used in the pipes...

it's a shame Ma and Pa/Kishi lacked your inside intel and were about to waste chakra by using it again in the fight - Naruto vs Pain... in a open space
it's also a shame that Pain/Kishi also lacked that same intel and felt the need to kill Pa to not be caught in genjutsu... again.


and here we can see them all going full retarted
it was not going to work idiots... why waste time trying to do it and why did you have to kill him Deva path!?!? it was useless SMH

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since Saske has Itachi's weaps and even has his good sight back
I'm assuming Nardo can fuse with the toads in this fight
so... IMO is a 50/50...

 

[shelke]

^ I love it how you probably avoided all the strategy that was used within the pipes as well, together with the fact that it ONLY worked at point-blank range. Not only that it was heard quite clearly by the paths as well. Jiraiya used Swamp, Katon attack, and the blindness of the human path - its eyes were rendered useless by the direct attack - to his advantage. Only then was it even useful. The fact that during his fight was Deva, the frogs decided to try this again against Deva at close range means the pipes have nothing to do with this. So you are obviously completely wrong.

But, it's literally fifth grade physics that in a closed space any sound, especially a song, would resonate, which is why the paths - Animal Path heard it first - heard it very clearly. It's also a fact that the other paths were right behind and weren't affected by the song at all, which means that despite the closed space it HAS to be used at a close range for being affective. It's also another fact that in an open space, the sound will not resonate just as effectively. And I haven't even touched upon the long prep time and the large amount of Sage Chakra it uses, meaning, Naruto will not be able to use that many FRS if he resorts to this.

I cannot see the image and the song was never used in Naruto Versus Deva fight. The frogs were still prepping it when Pa was stabbed by Deva after using BT. Sasuke does not have Itachi's weapons and the sight doesn't have anything to do with this topic. 50/50? Not even close. This is a one-sided match.

 

[Prince Charles]

Shelke, why do you think frog song genjutsu would be uselses in a open location? I don't know why people like you think sound genjutsu is useless or harder to get the target in the genjutsu in a open location and not a closed one. We already saw how during the pain arc battle with sm naruto,

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and not too mention Tayuya using her sound flute genjutsu in a forest which is a open space location against shikamaru.

 

[KidGamer65]

If Sasuke is allowed his

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for this thread since he isn't blind, then he definitely takes this.

-FRS is not getting past a level 4 Susanoo, not when level 2 allowed him to survive Kirin.

-Enton makes FRS completely useless anyway as shown in the manga, and with that orb on his Final Susanoo he can fire it off much easier in larger amounts. Enton also makes Boss Toads non factors.

 

[shelke]

Shelke, why do you think frog song genjutsu would be uselses in a open location? I don't know why people like you think sound genjutsu is useless or harder to get the target in the genjutsu in a open location and not a closed one. We already saw how during the pain arc battle with sm naruto, ma and pa were prepping their frog song genjutsu and not too mention Tayuya using her sound flute genjutsu in a forest which is a open space location against shikamaru.

I never said they were not prepping it. It would be useless because of these factors -

- Too easily heard.
- Far more room to move back.

There are other factors but these stick with me. The closed space is a sound argument as songs tend to echo more and despite the closed space the three paths right behind the other three were never affected. It was also used literally at point blank range to make it affective. Takuya uses a flute. That is a pipe instrument. Completely different from a plain song.

I came up with this 'closed space' logic as to why it was even used at such a short range and it also never affected the paths when they could hear it. I actually compared it to this flute technique - not in this thread - that it had great effectiveness regardless of the distance. I could be wrong on the effectiveness but the range argument is still just as valid.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Okay, seeing how most people think this isn't even, let me Make Sasuke blind.

 

[Guntah]

He doesn't need info. Once the Toads start singing he will know something is up. He isn't stupid. Jiraiya used the location to his advantage and kept the paths of pain busy. There is nowhere to hide at vote, and with Ama one shotting summons and clones, Naruto won't be able to keep Sasuke busy for long enough.

Every use of his MS gets Sasuke one step closer to losing his eyesight, using Ama in clones and summons would be pretty stupid...

And pain didnt know something was up, why would Sasuke?

 

[Oblivionx]

Interesting match up. But I in the end I would give this to sm naruto, his entering in sage mode time duration doesn't take as much time and the time limit for which he can stay in it to my understand has increased as well.

Sasuke having yata and totsuka is dangerous I don't see the totsuka landing a hit on naruto with his reaction and sensing skills. I do admit the totsuka would fodderize his toad summons, not that the totsuka is necessary for naruto's boss summons since manda and aoda will be there but, that will be 3 toad boss summons against 2 snake summons, naruto summons have the number advantage and including ma and pa but amaterasu and enton would light up naruto big boss summons.

But theirs still Ma and Pa's sound genjutsu which if they manage to pull off it's GG for sasuke but it was stated that the sound genjutsu leaves the user at a great vulnerability so ma and pa can always get one shotted via sussano sword or arrow while performing the said genjutsu.

Any long range attack form naruto such as rasegan gets tanked via sussano or yata mirror, as for amaterasu, naruto can sense chakra so he should be capable of sensing the pressure similar to nagato did against Itachi and evade it.

Honestly it comes to who outlasts to I think, it was already stated by during the kage summit arc how sussano puts a massive strain on his body which in this battle he will need sussano up constantly.

I give this to Sm naruto high diff, it could go either way but I lean towards to naruto with ma and pa.

perfect reply...! SM naruto will take it 7/10....!

 

[Xlad]

New chapter suggest that Naruto's FRS can damage Madz's Susanoo.
I'm...dah what the heck? Sasuke would win this at high-diff.