MS Sasuke vs SM Naruto and Mei

[Prince Charles]

Ya, Zabuza's taijutsu and speed pales in comparison to SM Naruto's who will be on the attack the instant the mist is expelled from Mei's mouth.

I think you misunderstand.. He was saying that Mei can Solo...

 

[Penguin]

I think you misunderstand.. He was saying that Mei can Solo...

Oh. He is a ninny then. My bad. Turnt up.

 

[Prince Charles]

Oh. He is a ninny then. My bad. Turnt up.

lolz xd ninny xd

 

[AGoodBoy]

lol? Hidden mist really? You have to do better than that. As soon as the mist starts to arise sasuke can easily summon his hawk summon and gain altitude. Clown. Not too mention he could also do a spread of chidori senbon in multiple directions[

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] which will hit Mei. Even back in part 1 when zabuza used the hidden mist against kakashi, with the use of his sharigan and reflexes he was able to intercept some of zabuzas attacks while in the mist. Sorry but these eyes see through your petty genjutsu you tried to place on me. NEXT!

You know you don't want me to get 'turnt up'. I don't like reading my walls of text anymore than the next guy.

Let's begin to dissect this masterpiece.

"As soon as the mist starts to arise sasuke can easily summon his hawk summon and gain altitude. Clown."

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- Can you see the ground, or better yet, madara's susano'o? This will be sasuke's view on his bird. A bunch of vapour he can't discern.

"Not too mention he could also do a spread of chidori senbon in multiple directions[

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] which will hit Mei."
Viable, but how much injury are these needles supposed to cause? They barely made it through the clay spiders. Mei would shrug the damage off and release a

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in that direction which is massive enough( far larger than mad's susano'o) to clear out whatever's in the area.

"Even back in part 1 when zabuza used the hidden mist against kakashi, with the use of his sharigan and reflexes he was able to intercept some of zabuzas attacks while in the mist."
Well that's a bit hard to believe... '

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', '

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'. I think I'ma be correct by assuming kakashi countered using similar methods to what

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- he used his senses;

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to be exact.

"Sorry but these eyes see through your petty genjutsu you tried to place on me."
Not a genjutsu. It's chakra produced mist to completely hinder vision within.

"NEXT!"
Dragon flood able to send his Susano'o flying while water spout defends from some of his attacks.

Oh. He is a ninny then. My bad. Turnt up.

That's true... I can't really refute that but then again, sasuke has no counter to Hidden Mist. He's never shown a single sensor feat whereas mei was born in the hidden mist village and even has the jutsu in her arsenal. It's highly unlikely she'd have a jutsu which was disadvantageous to her.
And, that's not even with me going into the concrete dissolving, susano'o melting boil release which decks any means of defence he wants to try. Susano'o? Not in the mist. Snake? That's dying within 5 seconds from 1st degree acid burns. His attack and defence are both shot in 2 moves.

IMO mei has an Anti-Uchiha arsenal. Any 3 tomoe uchiha would be completely and utterly overwhelmed with MS/EMS users being the only one capable of defeating her.

 

[Prince Charles]

Lol at this guy..

It does not matter if he cannot see Mei within the mist as long as he has the distance and flight advantage. Your just mad because I shitted and than dunked on your hidden mist crap, sooner or later Mei will have to come out the mist. The hawk summon isnt even a necessity here as seeing as long as mei is touching the surface within the mist she is still pron to chidori current[

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] which can paralyze Mei, potentially canceling the mist.

Huh? The chidori senbon can possibly pierce her chest area and going straight to her heart causing massive damage. Not too mention if the chidori stream from the senbon enter her body it may cause her to get paralyzed. I don't see Mei shrugging them off like their nothing.

Nice job skipping the scan of kakashi intercepting those shuriken from zabuza while in the mist.

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clown

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lol at this guy..

It does not matter if he cannot see Mei within the mist as long as he has the distance and flight advantage. Your just mad because I shitted and than dunked on your hidden mist crap, sooner or later Mei will have to come out the mist. The hawk summon isnt even a necessity here as seeing as long as mei is touching the surface within the mist she is still pron to chidori current[

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] which can paralyze Mei, potentially canceling the mist.

Huh? The chidori senbon can possibly pierce her chest area and going straight to her heart causing massive damage. Not too mention if the chidori stream from the senbon enter her body it may cause her to get paralyzed. I don't see Mei shrugging them off like their nothing.

Nice job skipping the scan of kakashi intercepting those shuriken from zabuza while in the mist.

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clown

How did you debunk hidden mist...? Sasuke can't see in the mist nor can he get rid of it. He posses 0 AoE attacks to completely destroy everything within the mist so i'm not seeing how you destroyed any argument...

You state that mei would have to come out of the mist. Why is this? For what possible reason would she leave the mist against an uchiha? Why would she ever come out of her defence or cancel it when she can most likely fight through it while her opponent is useless? You then state a ground chidori which clearly has to be directed to the opponent. In your very same scan, do you see the chidori spreading in all directions, or just towards itachi? If sasuke had to spread it in all directions and far, it'd clearly take a shit storm of chakra.

I don't see how senbon does this much damage when it hardly did anything to clay spiders but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and simply counter with lava release. A simple wave of lava infront of her, like

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one, is enough to cover her front from any of those chidori senbon. They've never shown enough piercing power to allow us to assume they can pierce the lava, along with the fact that it seems the lava can be hardened upon will. Now, i realise your counter to this would be how would mei see these senbon approaching, but once a few actually start to fly by, it's obvious from there that her opponent is attacking and a defence is necessary. If this defence is also not to your liking, I could also throw in a suiton: dragon flood or otherwise as a counter to the incoming senbon, or Boil release which would completely dissolve these senbon as they flew along their path before they ever made it. How is this possible? Well, boil release

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to susano'o, a few needles aren't big enough to stand up to the rapid decay.

As to your last post. Don't ask me how kakashi did it, it's not relevant as the two scans I posted already completely refute them. Kakashi not only said "Like him, zabuza shouldn't be able to see", but also said "His reactions are slowed because he can't see" then proceeded to use intelligence to deduce zabuza's next move. Maybe he saw those at the last second as the mist did honestly have a few feet of visibility and he could see far enough to notice zabuza's eyes closed, but that doesn't matter considering he's engaging mei in mid/long ranged battling. Mei doesn't engage in CQC where sasuke has a chance in hell of seeing. Infact, this last scan just strengthens it for mei, as now she'd be able to dodge the simple chidori senbon last minute by seeing them approaching.

 

[Prince Charles]

How did you debunk hidden mist...? Sasuke can't see in the mist nor can he get rid of it. He posses 0 AoE attacks to completely destroy everything within the mist so i'm not seeing how you destroyed any argument...

Lol seriously? How about Kirin? Clown. With him already possessing amaterasu and high level katon techs, Kirin would be a smart tactic in this scenario as seeing he cannot see his opponent directly.

You state that mei would have to come out of the mist. Why is this? For what possible reason would she leave the mist against an uchiha? Why would she ever come out of her defence or cancel it when she can most likely fight through it while her opponent is useless? You then state a ground chidori which clearly has to be directed to the opponent. In your very same scan, do you see the chidori spreading in all directions, or just towards itachi? If sasuke had to spread it in all directions and far, it'd clearly take a shit storm of chakra.

Nice job trying to fabricate the manga clown. Chidori current can be spread in multiple direction. Sasuke simply chose to manipulate it towards Itachi, What sense would it make that chidori current can only be used in a 1 linear direction?:| Lol clearly you don't know shit about sasuke's chakra reserves, Anyway's Mei will be very nearby sasuke in the mist if she wants a sure fire way to end sasuke's life which she wont be capable of doing. Why i said Mei will have to eventually leave the mist is simply do the reason that she will lack view of her surroundings. Once sasuke takes flight, It is quite accurate to say that Mei will have a hard time calculating where sasuke is and his position or if his about to use a offensive attack which is why she will have to leave the mist if she wants her normal view of her surroundings again.

I don't see how senbon does this much damage when it hardly did anything to clay spiders but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and simply counter with lava release. A simple wave of lava infront of her, like

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one, is enough to cover her front from any of those chidori senbon. They've never shown enough piercing power to allow us to assume they can pierce the lava, along with the fact that it seems the lava can be hardened upon will. Now, i realise your counter to this would be how would mei see these senbon approaching, but once a few actually start to fly by, it's obvious from there that her opponent is attacking and a defence is necessary. If this defence is also not to your liking, I could also throw in a suiton: dragon flood or otherwise as a counter to the incoming senbon, or Boil release which would completely dissolve these senbon as they flew along their path before they ever made it. How is this possible? Well, boil release

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to susano'o, a few needles aren't big enough to stand up to the rapid decay.

Mei countering the Senonb is of no problem here. The senbon have more versatile uses then just using them offensively but rather in a trap like. It was already displayed against Deidara's clay bombs that the senbon can stick to surfaces due to their sharp structure[

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]. That being said that fact that the Senbon were still materialized in the clay bombs I find it very plausible that sasuke will be capable of intentionally throwing senbon around himself but not to attack Mei but to stick to the ground where the mist is taking place, why I said this is because if Mei were to come in for a surprise attack she would be prone to stepping on one of the chidori senbons not only paralyzing her for a moment or two but also injuring her feet restricting her use of movement a little which will only put sasuke at a greater advantage.

Sasuke is already aware of Mei's abilities for the most part. That being said if he does get caught in the mist who's say he wont simply activate his v2 sussano and simply defend himself from the mist? This is all assuming that he doesnt use his hawk summon would means Mei would be literally wasting her chakra. In the same scan you posted we already saw how a heavy armor sussano was capable of blocking out the boil/acid mist. The suiton dragon isnt doing jack shit to sussano.

As to your last post. Don't ask me how kakashi did it, it's not relevant as the two scans I posted already completely refute them. Kakashi not only said "Like him, zabuza shouldn't be able to see", but also said "His reactions are slowed because he can't see" then proceeded to use intelligence to deduce zabuza's next move. Maybe he saw those at the last second as the mist did honestly have a few feet of visibility and he could see far enough to notice zabuza's eyes closed, but that doesn't matter considering he's engaging mei in mid/long ranged battling. Mei doesn't engage in CQC where sasuke has a chance in hell of seeing. Infact, this last scan just strengthens it for mei, as now she'd be able to dodge the simple chidori senbon last minute by seeing them approaching.

Really? Your really going to refute the manga itself? I was showed how kakashi was capable of intercepting zabuza's attack. It's called basic ninja sensing, not in the sense of having sensing abilities but in the sense of being on guard and using your keen senses to sense your victim. It has already been shown in the manga by multiple shinobi that were able to intercept their enemy by not even looking at them.

 

[Penguin]

Somebody just got Turnt Up.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lol seriously? How about Kirin? Clown. With him already possessing amaterasu and high level katon techs, Kirin would be a smart tactic in this scenario as seeing he cannot see his opponent directly.

Good point, well made. I did think about kirin when i hit post, but i did also think up something. Now, remember that point I made about sasuke's can see anything whether

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(top left panel will be sasuke's view distance) or

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of the mist? This means that sasuke has to aim that kirin near Mei for or else it's completely useless seeing as he walked away from it completely unharmed yet was not too far away from sasuke. But, really, i don't have a defence for kirin, not like sasuke would live long enough to use it <--- my desperate defence XD

Nice job trying to fabricate the manga clown. Chidori current can be spread in multiple direction. Sasuke simply chose to manipulate it towards Itachi, What sense would it make that chidori current can only be used in a 1 linear direction?:| Lol clearly you don't know shit about sasuke's chakra reserves, Anyway's Mei will be very nearby sasuke in the mist if she wants a sure fire way to end sasuke's life which she wont be capable of doing. Why i said Mei will have to eventually leave the mist is simply do the reason that she will lack view of her surroundings. Once sasuke takes flight, It is quite accurate to say that Mei will have a hard time calculating where sasuke is and his position or if his about to use a offensive attack which is why she will have to leave the mist if she wants her normal view of her surroundings again.

Notice how i stated that a chidori randomly generated in all directions would use up more chakra? Sasuke doesn't have that many chidori to use, so using a chidori like that in the dark is a bit careless as if it misses the opponent sasuke just lost a bunch of his chakra reserves. But, let me not go into that. What you're missing with this offence is the fact that an attack would not kill mei, but

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, would instead temporarly stun her. In an area where he can't even see his opponent, and where this jutsu in no way helped him find her, what was the point of it?

Wait, why would she need to be near? She's a mid/long ranged fighter. Even when she first battled sasuke in that enclosed room, she never engaged him in any sort of close distance (granted this is as near as she'd possibly be fighting due to the room) and appeared to be

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from sasuke. At these distances, Sasuke possibly can't even see her within the thick mist, seeing as madara's vision didn't go past Muu who was

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You also state that I don't know anything about sasuke's chakra reserves, but do I really need to scan hunt now?
1 genjutsu, CM, body replacement, fireball jutsu, fire dragon, chidori, chidori current. That's all the jutsu sasuke used against itachi before being drained.
Against deidara he used chidori senbon, chidori lance chidori, CM, 2 genjutsu, summoning jutsu.
Against kages he used 2 raitons on kusanagi sword, 1 chidori, amaterasu, enton, genjutsu, ribcage and full susano'o before being completely drained.
Against Danzo he used 1 amaterasu, fireball jutsu, chidori lance, 3 levels of susano'o, summoning jutsu and a few levels of susano'o.

I'll admit, there might be some error up there since i didn't fact check and went off my head, but it should be close enough. In your scenario, he's already potentially drained chakra on his bird, and if i add boil release, he'd have already drained chakra on susano'o. With the fact that his chakra reserves aren't spectacular enough to randomly waste away on random moves, sasuke's move set becomes quite limited here.

As to the rest of this post. It is pretty valid :/

Mei countering the Senonb is of no problem here. The senbon have more versatile uses then just using them offensively but rather in a trap like. It was already displayed against Deidara's clay bombs that the senbon can stick to surfaces due to their sharp structure[

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]. That being said that fact that the Senbon were still materialized in the clay bombs I find it very plausible that sasuke will be capable of intentionally throwing senbon around himself but not to attack Mei but to stick to the ground where the mist is taking place, why I said this is because if Mei were to come in for a surprise attack she would be prone to stepping on one of the chidori senbons not only paralyzing her for a moment or two but also injuring her feet restricting her use of movement a little which will only put sasuke at a greater advantage.

Sasuke is already aware of Mei's abilities for the most part. That being said if he does get caught in the mist who's say he wont simply activate his v2 sussano and simply defend himself from the mist? This is all assuming that he doesnt use his hawk summon would means Mei would be literally wasting her chakra. In the same scan you posted we already saw how a heavy armor sussano was capable of blocking out the boil/acid mist. The suiton dragon isnt doing jack shit to sussano.

Fair enough lol. The only thing I can say to the senbon argument is boil release would be capable of melting them away. If not by breathing out the acid, mei could put it within the atmosphere to dissolve the entire area.

Really? Your really going to refute the manga itself? I was showed how kakashi was capable of intercepting zabuza's attack. It's called basic ninja sensing, not in the sense of having sensing abilities but in the sense of being on guard and using your keen senses to sense your victim. It has already been shown in the manga by multiple shinobi that were able to intercept their enemy by not even looking at them.

This is also true lmao. I'm not too sure of the point of this anyway as basic ninja sensing has no real place against suiton dragon, lava and boil release.

shit... I should've shut my mouth when i had a chance... I'll make my rebutal and edit this post then
This was a nice counter, and honestly, I wave the white flag. I'm still restricted to 4 moves for mei ( -sigh- so annoying kishi, come on ) and I really do hate repeating myself. Boil release, Hidden mist, lava and suiton are fine and dandy but they offer little strategy wise. Up against your points i'd be grasping at straws where I already am. Somethings i'd like to see kishi right up for mei is some form a bushin(so i have manga scans), some form of speed feat, and at least another jutsu... Then I can debate with her again without having to regurgitating the same points. It's like minato FTG, Rasengan, S/T Barrier all over again -_-

You win this Ems Sasuke vs Mei for now. But I still honestly believe that mei has the best anti uchiha arsenal(3 tomoe at least) in the manga only rivalled by, probably, trollkage.

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[Prince Charles]

shit... I should've shut my mouth when i had a chance... I'll make my rebutal and edit this post then

Lmao aite bro i have to go study for my medical test quiz for tomorrow anyway

 

[Penguin]

Lmao aite bro i have to go study for my medical test quiz for tomorrow anyway

How old are you? Anceint? Lol

 

[Prince Charles]

How old are you? Anceint? Lol

lmaaao naw bro im 16 *_* in my school we have programs and stuff. im in the med technician program.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lmao aite bro i have to go study for my medical test quiz for tomorrow anyway

I edited my post, but honestly you don't really need to reply to it lol. :dead:

 

[Prince Charles]

I edited my post, but honestly you don't really need to reply to it lol. :dead:

lmao its all good, remember when you shitted on my post in that one thread that i cant recall xd but yeah i wont be able to counter cus im studying for my medical test tomorrow at school bro.

EDIT- it was that onoki and ay vs tsunade and mei and gaara thread xd you shitted on me lmaooo

 

[AGoodBoy]

lmao its all good, remember when you shitted on my post in that one thread that i cant recall xd but yeah i wont be able to counter cus im studying for my medical test tomorrow at school bro.

EDIT- it was that onoki and ay vs tsunade and mei and gaara thread xd you shitted on me lmaooo

It's all good in the hood lol. I'd rep you but I somehow need to spread rep. Don't even remember when i repped you before. Anyway, good post, very few people on this base make me concede defeat. Apart from Forbidden technique in a 'Kisame Vs Minato' thread, this might actually be the second time. Though, KidGamer has backed me into corners on quite a few occasions XD

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Naruto and Mei, mid diff.
Mei would get taken out though if Naruto was careless.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

SM Naruto and MS Sasuke are the most equal match in versus threads (In my humble opinion of course)

Mei tips the match in Naruto's favor

 

[dudefightin]

Naruto and Mei low diff.