MS Sasuke VS Ay

Who wins and what difficulty?


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you are not understanding him, read his points well to fully grasp what hes saying.
I have read everything he and the rest of sasuke fans have said,
sadly their arguments are not convincing at all, he loses this
you keep saying sasuke cant keep up sooosano for long and that he needs to stay all the time
Yes he does,
he has no way of tracking Ay, and no way in helll can he physically react to V2 Ay,
meaning that if he doesnt have his susanooo up, then Ay blitzes him and eradicates him
sasuke can also not risk fighting Ay without his defense, as he is literally giving his life away on a silver platter
, well rusled jimmies is saying that sasuke doesnt need to do that esp when he can get on his hawk in which ay wont be able to bliz him and then while on his hawk if he does attack him which he would sasuke can activate soosano or enton in time to kill him as ays attacks obv be as fast mid air as he would be on ground level normally. he doesnt have to be clad in soosano all the time, only when ay attacks him while on his hawk, thats his point.
Well sadly, Sasuke is still not landing a single hit on Ay,
and his hawk still has the summoning limit, meaning that once the time frame runs out, its back to phase 1, where sasuke has to camp himself in susanoo, just to survive,
furthermore, if Ay does manage to close the distance to sasuke and his hawk, then whats stopping him from attacking the hawk?,
he just slams it down with gullotine drop and then attacks sasuke off,
and he doesnt have to wait to outlast sasuke either,
he just uses one of his arms to constantly attack sasuke susanoo weak spot with, and eventually bust the susanoo off,
as once that happens, sasuke dies, and Ay gets rid of the flames,

i have read and countered this exact same argument about 5 times, and its not helping sasuke at all, when his hawk is just prolonging his death, its not getting him anywhere at all
He doesn't want to understand anyone...
Sasuke/Uchiha fans crying about someone disagreeing with their faves not winning,
doesnt mean that i dont want to understand,
just means that you all are in denial
 
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I don't have time to reply to all points with a wall of text right now, but I'll reply to a few.

-Sasuke can't land a hit on Ay, and Ay can do what to him again ? Punch his Susano'o until it gets destroyed ? this is as ridiculous as it gets, when get he could barely destroy a ribcage that had already been cracked, and thus weakened by a Liger Bomb, that's far from "minimal damage". If he tries to punch Susano'o, his whole body gets burnt, and getting rid of the flames ? When he needed to cut his arm off to get the flames out of him ? let's see how he does that with Enton spikes piercing all of his body. And I have zero evidence that Ay can break Susano'o here, especially without getting burned to death.

-As for the MS Obito point, there's a difference between crying and exposing the bias, Obito has the option not to attack and wait until the BM limit is over, via both Izanagi and Kamui, but in your scenario, he attacks, becomes tangible and dies. And in this scenario, you're saying that Ay will just stay in the defensive, like Obito could do, but in your scenario he will just attack and die, the same exact thing happens if Ay attacks here, he dies.

-You saying that I'm accusing you of using BFR arguments just proves to me that your reading comprehension is top notch.
 

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Sasuke wins because Ay needs V2 to react to amaterasu. He cannot maintain it for the entire fight.

Ay will eventually fall prey to enton variants or amaterasu. Sasuke can spam arrows which cannot be dodged unless Ay goes V2. Sasuke can fly on rinnehawk and spam susano arrows at Ay on the ground. Sasuke has many ways to win.
 

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I don't have time to reply to all points with a wall of text right now, but I'll reply to a few.

-Sasuke can't land a hit on Ay, and Ay can do what to him again ? Punch his Susano'o until it gets destroyed ? this is as ridiculous as it gets, when get he could barely destroy a ribcage that had already been cracked, and thus weakened by a Liger Bomb, that's far from "minimal damage".
i dont think you know what ridiculous really means
but He can definitely bust susanoo, especially when he can aim his attacks towards his weak spot,
and sasuke is not coating any of his higher susanoo variants in enton, as that will drain him within seconds, so even then Ay can just attack him, or simply laugh at its attacks with his speed, when sasuke wont even know where he is,
and @Bold - are you kidding me, all that however, the
whereas , the latters ribcage is not doing shit here, when Ay has canoncially shown the power to bust it open, him being able to aim it at its weak spot just makes things easier for him,

If he tries to punch Susano'o, his whole body gets burnt, and getting rid of the flames ? When he needed to cut his arm off to get the flames out of him ?
Excuse me, , last time i checked thats not the whole body,
and Ay can just attack from his arm,not that it matters since sasuke would drop to ribcage in no time, and would die once Ay busts it open

let's see how he does that with Enton spikes piercing all of his body. And I have zero evidence that Ay can break Susano'o here, especially without getting burned to death.
Enton spikes are not piercing his body, please refrain from such stupidity,
and are not even landing on Ay unless he does something utterly stupid which he wont be doing here thanks to the mindset,
and Ay has canonically breached sasukes susanoo, you not being able to accept that is just denial at its finest
-As for the MS Obito point, there's a difference between crying and exposing the bias, Obito has the option not to attack and wait until the BM limit is over, via both Izanagi and Kamui, but in your scenario, he attacks, becomes tangible and dies.
You clearly didnt read my post at all,
first of all, naruto doesnt even need the BM clones, so even if he runs out, he can utilise SM to attack obito with,
so either way obito still has nothing on naruto,
there is no bias when obito stands no chance in attacking him without getting gang banged, and when obito certainly doesnt have the reserves to outlast him,

And in this scenario, you're saying that Ay will just stay in the defensive, like Obito could do, but in your scenario he will just attack and die, the same exact thing happens if Ay attacks here, he dies.
Umm read my post thoroughly,
Ay can win this offensively and defensively,
Ay does not die if he attacks especially when he can just attack sasuke with one of his arms,
not to mention that he can just blitz and kill sasuke, especially if he resorts to combat without susanoo, according to ur premise Lol

whereas in Obitos case, he cannot beat Naruto, even if he resorts to defense, he has no chance at taking him down, especially when MS Obito even reacting to BSM narutos shunshin is a mere speculation

-You saying that I'm accusing you of using BFR arguments just proves to me that your reading comprehension is top notch.
you resorting to insults is a clear indication that you have ran out of arguments,
i dont see whats so hard for you sasuke fans to accept that he does not win this,

Sasuke wins because Ay needs V2 to react to amaterasu. He cannot maintain it for the entire fight.

Ay will eventually fall prey to enton variants or amaterasu. Sasuke can spam arrows which cannot be dodged unless Ay goes V2.
Sasuke can fly on rinnehawk and spam susano arrows at Ay on the ground. Sasuke has many ways to win.
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1. arrows can be dodged in V1 state alone,
2. sasuke spamming his arrows, whilst Ay not being able to maintain V2 despite having bijuu level reserve is just funny,
3. Ay falling prey to enton and amaterasu when he canonically shat on amaterasu? Lol
4. Sasuke being able to land his attacks when he cant even track him, is also laughable
5. sasuke having ''many ways to win'' when none of his attacks are even landing just makes this a joke
 

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1. arrows can be dodged in V1 state alone,
2. sasuke spamming his arrows, whilst Ay not being able to maintain V2 despite having bijuu level reserve is just funny,
3. Ay falling prey to enton and amaterasu when he canonically shat on amaterasu? Lol
4. Sasuke being able to land his attacks when he cant even track him, is also laughable
5. sasuke having ''many ways to win'' when none of his attacks are even landing just makes this a joke
1) Proof? Without sensory skills, super speed or Kamui you will get hit. Kakashi needed kamui to handle an arrow. Ay needed V2 to deal with amaterasu. Arrows were portrayed to be just as fast.

2) Ay needed to prepare himself to deal with MS. He didn't use V2 the entire fight. If Ay starts off in V1 he gets negged by amatersasu.

3) Canonically he lost an arm to amaterasu. How long will he be able to dodge? His chakra will certainly run out eventually. He will need V2 the entire fight. In his fight with Sasuke he used V2 for only 5 minutes max.

4) Yet he was able to hit V1 Ay with Chidori. Sasuke just needs to wear him down until he can't maintain V2.

5) Genjutsu is one of many ways to win. Ay easily fell prey to Madara's genjutsu. He looked into MS Sasuke's eyes multiple times too. Ay will need to avoid eye contact the entire fight which also hinders his ability to counter MS techniques.

6) Sasuke casually rides Rinnehawk out of Ay's range. There is no way Ay will land a hit while Sasuke has long distance jutsu with which he can tire out Ay. This isn't needed since a simple 3-tomoe genjutsu will be enough for a careless shinobi like Ay.
 

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1) Proof? Without sensory skills, super speed or Kamui you will get hit. Kakashi needed kamui to handle an arrow. Ay needed V2 to deal with amaterasu. Arrows were portrayed to be just as fast.
Too bad that we are talking about susanoo arrows not kamui, and too bad that kakashis physical speed and reflexes are nowhere near Ays
Not really, you dont need sensory skills, if you have the speed and reflexes to evade an attack, which Ay certainly does,
first of all, ,
Third Raikage whose speed is comparable to V1 Ay, despite
meaning that V1 Ay evades it rather easily, let alone V2
2) Ay needed to prepare himself to deal with MS. He didn't use V2 the entire fight. If Ay starts off in V1 he gets negged by amatersasu.
the minute he sasukes activates MS, Ay goes V2, meaning that amaterasu is shat on,
furthermore amaterasu needs alot more prep time than for Ay to enter V2,
3) Canonically he lost an arm to amaterasu. How long will he be able to dodge? His chakra will certainly run out eventually. He will need V2 the entire fight. In his fight with Sasuke he used V2 for only 5 minutes max.
Am i supposed to take you sseriously here?,
the amount of chakra and the drawbacks of overusing the MS are much much worse for sasuke then for Ay to simply use a side step to evade amaterasu,
and the fact that sasuke needs to use his susanoo just to survive, only makes things worse
and Lol, Ay only needed to use V2 for 5min max
4) Yet he was able to hit V1 Ay with Chidori. Sasuke just needs to wear him down until he can't maintain V2.
Too badd that he cant wear him down, nor does he have a way of outlasting him, more like the other way around
5) Genjutsu is one of many ways to win. Ay easily fell prey to Madara's genjutsu. He looked into MS Sasuke's eyes multiple times too. Ay will need to avoid eye contact the entire fight which also hinders his ability to counter MS techniques.
Too bad that sasuke cant keep track of AY, so genjutsu is just not happening,
and Ay fell prey due to being distracted by tsunades injury, however he was fighting not one but 5 madaras just fine, and that was without even using V2,
6) Sasuke casually rides Rinnehawk out of Ay's range. There is no way Ay will land a hit while Sasuke has long distance jutsu with which he can tire out Ay. This isn't needed since a simple 3-tomoe genjutsu will be enough for a careless shinobi like Ay.
hawk is not doing shit here, its just prolonging his death
AY jumps up, and slams it down with gullotine drop, the moment its within his range
and Sasuke is not landing a single hit on AY, despite going on the hawk,
not to mention that its a summoning meaning that iit still has a time limit, which AY can very easily outlast, and then its back to phase 1 where sasuke gets blitzed or outlasted

 

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Too bad that we are talking about susanoo arrows not kamui, and too bad that kakashis physical speed and reflexes are nowhere near Ays
Not really, you dont need sensory skills, if you have the speed and reflexes to evade an attack, which Ay certainly does,
first of all, ,
Third Raikage whose speed is comparable to V1 Ay, despite
meaning that V1 Ay evades it rather easily, let alone V2

the minute he sasukes activates MS, Ay goes V2, meaning that amaterasu is shat on,
furthermore amaterasu needs alot more prep time than for Ay to enter V2,

Am i supposed to take you sseriously here?,
the amount of chakra and the drawbacks of overusing the MS are much much worse for sasuke then for Ay to simply use a side step to evade amaterasu,
and the fact that sasuke needs to use his susanoo just to survive, only makes things worse
and Lol, Ay only needed to use V2 for 5min max

Too badd that he cant wear him down, nor does he have a way of outlasting him, more like the other way around

Too bad that sasuke cant keep track of AY, so genjutsu is just not happening,
and Ay fell prey due to being distracted by tsunades injury, however he was fighting not one but 5 madaras just fine, and that was without even using V2,

hawk is not doing shit here, its just prolonging his death
AY jumps up, and slams it down with gullotine drop, the moment its within his range
and Sasuke is not landing a single hit on AY, despite going on the hawk,
not to mention that its a summoning meaning that iit still has a time limit, which AY can very easily outlast, and then its back to phase 1 where sasuke gets blitzed or outlasted

1) Third raikage was still hit by FRS. Wasn't he?

2) How will Ay know when Sasuke activates MS? Before you be a smartass, recall how sharingan genjutsu is casted.

3) Sasuke doesn't need Susanoo when he is flying on a hawk OUT OF AY'S RANGE. Before you be a smartass read point 6.

4) Sasuke doesn't even need to wear him down. He easily hits him with genjutsu or amaterasu. Before you be a smart ass recall how Ay looked into Sasuke's eyes to determine that he needed V2 to keep up with MS.

5) Too bad that Ay canonically looked into Sasuke's eyes to determine that he was using MS.

6) Whilst in mid-air Sasuke causually hits him with a Susanoo arrow, amaterasu or enton variants. Before you be a smartass, remember that Raikage can't fly and hence cannot change direction in mid-air. Jumping just makes him an easy target. I also said Sasuke flies up OUT OF AY'S RANGE.

Bonus: Sasuke flies high in the air on rinnehawk and then uses enton to summon a thunderstorm. Sasuke negs Ay with a jutsu faster than sound which canonically destroyed a mountain. Kirin solos. Sadly, it won't even be necessary, as Ay gets negged by genjutsu from the first moment he looks into Sasuke's eyes.

Sidenote: After rereading this thread, I realize that you just don't want to accept that you have been solo'd. Other members already established and provided you with clear evidence why Sasuke shits on Ay.
 
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1) Third raikage was still hit by FRS. Wasn't he?
He was only hit when
however he still evaded FRS with utmost ease, meaning that susanoo arrow is sufferring the same fate,
so ur still wrong here
2) How will Ay know when Sasuke activates MS? Before you be a smartass, recall how sharingan genjutsu is casted.
He has full intel here, meaning that he knows he needs his full speed (V2) to blitz sasuke and the moment he sees susanoo, then he can tell that sasuke is using his MS,
and I have already established that resorting to combat without susanoo would yield to sasuke getting killed
@Bold - Lol, says the guy that thinks sasuke could outlast Ay,
3) Sasuke doesn't need Susanoo when he is flying on a hawk OUT OF AY'S RANGE. Before you be a smartass read point 6.
Again, what good would that do to him.
its just prolonging his death, when none of sasukes attacks are even landing on Ay,
and when sasuke still cant track Ay, meaning that all of that is just a waste of time
4) Sasuke doesn't even need to wear him down. He easily hits him with genjutsu or amaterasu. Before you be a smart ass recall how Ay looked into Sasuke's eyes to determine that he needed V2 to keep up with MS.
--genjutsu is not happening when he cant even track Ay, so doesnt matter whether Ay looks at sasuke or not, when the latter cant track him, then he certainly cant cast a genjutsu on him,

--Amaterasu is also garbage when he cant even locate Ay, and when V2 Ays speed canonically shat on the jtusu,

and @Bold - more like the other way around, Sasuke needed his MS to even keep up with V2 Ay, infact he still couldnt keep up,
5) Too bad that Ay canonically looked into Sasuke's eyes to determine that he was using MS.
And?
6) Whilst in mid-air Sasuke causually hits him with a Susanoo arrow, amaterasu or enton variants. Before you be a smartass, remember that Raikage can't fly and hence cannot change direction in mid-air. Jumping just makes him an easy target. I also said Sasuke flies up OUT OF AY'S RANGE.
Ays can certainly cast gullotine drop and slam the hawk and sasuke down on the ground before sasuke even dreams of attacking him
and again, @Bold - explain how that is helping sasuke?, because its not
Bonus: Sasuke flies high in the air on rinnehawk and then uses enton to summon a thunderstorm. Sasuke negs Ay with a jutsu faster than sound which canonically destroyed a mountain. Kirin solos. Sadly, it won't even be necessary, as Ay gets negged by genjutsu from the first moment he looks into Sasuke's eyes.
Sasuke using kirin on a target that he cant even see?, sounds legit,
not to mention that Ay can just move behind sasuke the moment sasuke begins to cast the jutsu, seeing how the jutsu requires a downward arrm movement, giving Ay plenty of time, to shunshin behind sasuke and stay out of the blast radius
@Bold - No he doesnt, please refrain from BS
Sidenote: After rereading this thread, I realize that you just don't want to accept that you have been solo'd. Other members already established and provided you with clear evidence why Sasuke shits on Ay.
yet all the other members are crying to me disagreeing with their fave winning, or have just bailed out, meaning that they have conceded
and all the fanboys are bringing the same BS over and over again, which has been countered left and right,
the only one whose in denial are you sasuke fans, no one else
provide an argument thats convincing enough and ill concede, otherwise just stop crying to me or insulting me about it,
 

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He was only hit when
still didnt reply to me and gasping at straws like a mf especially with Ei dodging kirin moving behind sasuke when he 's 100 feet in the sky is moot because everything under him is destroyed also how will Ei even see his hand move all he will see in the hawk witch his bigger than sasuke body especially if he's looking upward.

Ei shunshin in the air to drop the hawk is also funny considering once he's in mid air amaterasu 1 shots or he's swatted or grabbed by Susanoo's hand

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With this shitty logic your spewing how can EMS Sasuke win against Ei with no ps?
 
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He was only hit when
however he still evaded FRS with utmost ease, meaning that susanoo arrow is sufferring the same fate,
so ur still wrong here

He has full intel here, meaning that he knows he needs his full speed (V2) to blitz sasuke and the moment he sees susanoo, then he can tell that sasuke is using his MS,
and I have already established that resorting to combat without susanoo would yield to sasuke getting killed
@Bold - Lol, says the guy that thinks sasuke could outlast Ay,

Again, what good would that do to him.
its just prolonging his death, when none of sasukes attacks are even landing on Ay,
and when sasuke still cant track Ay, meaning that all of that is just a waste of time

--genjutsu is not happening when he cant even track Ay, so doesnt matter whether Ay looks at sasuke or not, when the latter cant track him, then he certainly cant cast a genjutsu on him,

--Amaterasu is also garbage when he cant even locate Ay, and when V2 Ays speed canonically shat on the jtusu,

and @Bold - more like the other way around, Sasuke needed his MS to even keep up with V2 Ay, infact he still couldnt keep up,

And?

Ays can certainly cast gullotine drop and slam the hawk and sasuke down on the ground before sasuke even dreams of attacking him
and again, @Bold - explain how that is helping sasuke?, because its not

Sasuke using kirin on a target that he cant even see?, sounds legit,
not to mention that Ay can just move behind sasuke the moment sasuke begins to cast the jutsu, seeing how the jutsu requires a downward arrm movement, giving Ay plenty of time, to shunshin behind sasuke and stay out of the blast radius
@Bold - No he doesnt, please refrain from BS

yet all the other members are crying to me disagreeing with their fave winning, or have just bailed out, meaning that they have conceded
and all the fanboys are bringing the same BS over and over again, which has been countered left and right,
the only one whose in denial are you sasuke fans, no one else
provide an argument thats convincing enough and ill concede, otherwise just stop crying to me or insulting me about it,
Read what the other two members above me posted. You still came back with more BS. Lol

The moment you came back with something I already countered, I knew you were grasping at straws.

Ay already looked into Sasuke's eyes multiple times. So your argument about Sasuke not tracking him is moot. You really have wishful thinking to assume that Ay will not get caught in a genjutsu when he always looked into Sasuke's eyes.

There is no way Ay is jumping 300 Meters or more in the sky to hit a hawk. If he jumps like you said he gets smacked back down with a susanoo arm coated in amaterasu. Silly argument. Seems like you have nothing better to say.

Ay needs to activate V1 before he activates V2. Sasuke just needs to activate MS and cast amaterasu.

Sasuke doesn't need to know the exact area Ay is. He just needs to know the general area. Kirin has a large area of effect. Just imagine a thunderstorm created by a powerful enton. Sasuke negs with a Kirin larger than the one he used on Itachi.

There is no way Ay is getting out of Sasuke's view when he is high up on a hawk. Your point about Ay getting behind Sasuke is pure BS. Ay could only do that when Sasuke was on the ground.

While in the air, Ay becomes much easier to track. Its like being in a plane and watching the vehicles slowly move on the ground. On the ground a vehicle which seems fast, moves very slowly for someone high in the sky.

I enjoy watching you grasp at straws. Lol
 

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so ay is just going to blizing with v2 from entirety of the match? no ninja constantly moves at top speeds all the time, he didnt even do it against madara. and hes v1 is garbage as sasuke already tracked that with 3t let alone ms.
 

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still didnt reply to me and gasping at straws like a mf especially with Ei dodging kirin moving behind sasuke when he 's 100 feet in the sky is moot because everything under him is destroyed also how will Ei even see his hand move all he will see in the hawk witch his bigger than sasuke body especially if he's looking upward.
Kirin is never ever even getting prepped, so it doesnt even matter
it required amatersau that covered the entire size of the uchiha hide out plus a katon shot directly at the sky to prep kirin,

this scale of amaterasu shits on anything that sasuke has shown,




its not getting prepped because:

1. if sasuke tries using amaterasu of this scale he would have to drop susanoo considering that a single spawn of amaterasu through V2 susanoo nearly tired sasuke out, and forced him to wear out his defense



2. Sasuke using amaterasu of this size is not his feat, its itachis,

3. sasuke using this amount of amaterasu would not only tire him out but he would have to do so without his defense, which makes it even worse, since Ay can evade amaterasu and blitz sasuke when he is wide open, smashing his brains on the process


Ei shunshin in the air to drop the hawk is also funny considering once he's in mid air amaterasu 1 shots or he's swatted or grabbed by Susanoo's hand

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Lol Susanoo grabbing sasuke before Ay strikes is probably the dumbest thing i have heard when the likes of danzo were able to evade it once he was at a significant amount of distance,



Ay in V2 would dance around sasukes attacks and blitz him any day of the week, and there is absolutely nothing he would be able to do,
then theres the fact that sasuke wont be able to even see Ay when hes in movement, nor would he able to react when Ay strikes from a distance that short,

With this shitty logic your spewing how can EMS Sasuke win against Ei with no ps?
No he can win easily because EMS sasuke can track and tag Ay without much problems, plus the fact that he has no drawbacks of overusing his MS, meaning he can prep kirin wiith no problems
 
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Sasuke easily. Ay lost his arm and sauce didnt use full susanoo. Lol. If the fight went longer, ay would have been limbless. Sauce mid diffs him.
 

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Read what the other two members above me posted. You still came back with more BS. Lol
so far you havent told me once how he even lands a hit on Ay,
but if it makes you sleep at night you can continue,

The moment you came back with something I already countered, I knew you were grasping at straws.
not an argument nor does this BS have any relevance

Ay already looked into Sasuke's eyes multiple times. So your argument about Sasuke not tracking him is moot. You really have wishful thinking to assume that Ay will not get caught in a genjutsu when he always looked into Sasuke's eyes.
i suggest you to look at this, before you embarass yourself even more

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where the hell do you see sasuke tracking V2 Ay here? this seems like the biggest blitzes in the manga considering he had no mental reaction let alone reacting physically,

as for genjutsu, not only did Ay not get caught in canon, but he fought 5 Madaras in V1 each of them with superior precog yet still he didnt get caught once, until he was distracted by tsunades injury,

sasuke putting him in genjutsu is ridiculous based on what we have seen, so try again pal, or better yet just stop

There is no way Ay is jumping 300 Meters or more in the sky to hit a hawk. If he jumps like you said he gets smacked back down with a susanoo arm coated in amaterasu. Silly argument. Seems like you have nothing better to say.
I have shut the BS susanoo arm argument down, brought up by unorthodox, not in the mood of bringin it up again
and how high do you think sasuke would be? 300m in the sky? that is just grounds for BFR
what good is being soo high in the air going to do when he cant do shit from that distance?

we have already seen sasuke wear out after using susanoo and amatersu together,,
the only susanoo he can coat in enton completely is ribcage, and Ay has canonically shown the output to bust it open in a single lateral slash, so a ribcage isnt doing shit either

Ay needs to activate V1 before he activates V2. Sasuke just needs to activate MS and cast amaterasu.
yeah that wontn be an issue since the instant sauske activates MS, Ay goes V2 which took him less than a second
amaterasu also has a prep time unlike going V2, so this wishful flawed BS isnt cutting it either

Sasuke doesn't need to know the exact area Ay is. He just needs to know the general area. Kirin has a large area of effect. Just imagine a thunderstorm created by a powerful enton. Sasuke negs with a Kirin larger than the one he used on Itachi.
Kirin is not even getting prepped as i have said to unorthodox,
@bold - Lol keep bringing up more fanfic

There is no way Ay is getting out of Sasuke's view when he is high up on a hawk.
consideing that sasuke cant track Ay, then there is a huge possibility that he can, though it doesnt matter since sasuke cant do shit once he goes and tries to run away
Your point about Ay getting behind Sasuke is pure BS. Ay could only do that when Sasuke was on the ground.
Yeah and he got behind with sasuke having no reaction whatsoever,
doesnt matter if he can only do it in the ground

While in the air, Ay becomes much easier to track. Its like being in a plane and watching the vehicles slowly move on the ground. On the ground a vehicle which seems fast, moves very slowly for someone high in the sky.
Thats because when youre up in the sky your plane is moving at velocitiies much much faster than the cars, so unless you think sasukes hawk moves faster than Ay (which it doesnt) this doesnt and will not happen
the best thing sasuke can do, is see a moving lightning bolt which again does nothing when he cant do shit offensively

I enjoy watching you grasp at straws. Lol
your petty insults are just making you look like a clown considering that your arguments consist of going 300m in the sky, and catching ay in genjutsu,
and you going on the fellow sasuke bandwagon to help bring up more arguments just makke you look worse though thats of no concern to me
 
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