MS Sasuke VS Ay

[ARGUS]

You said yourself that he goes inside his Susano'o and then Ay waits for him to drop it and then he gets blitzed. So, unless Ay can fly, he isn't blitzing jack shit when Sasuke is on his hawk.

Read what I said.
I said if he's within a certain range. Then he can certainly jump up and blitz him off
And Sasuke using susanoo even more would not only make him blind bit it's completely draining him out and hurting every muscle in his body

Sasuke canonically reacted to guillotine drop when they were both on the ground, what stops him from activating Susano'oand Enton when he uses guillotine drop ?

Ok but he still can't react to V2 Ay so if he does close the distance (which he will)
Sasuke would get his chest blown off by lariat
And seeing how the drawbacks of overusing the MS are also dropping his reflexes. Means that Ay can attack him more effectively

 

[RustledJimmies]

Read what I said.
I said if he's within a certain range. Then he can certainly jump up and blitz him off
And Sasuke using susanoo even more would not only make him blind bit it's completely draining him out and hurting every muscle in his body

Except that he doesn't need to use Susano'o when he's on his hawk until Ay attacks, at which point he activates Susano'o and Enton. Sasuke already reacted to guillotine drop used by V2 Raikage, at close range, when Sasuke was down [

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], Blitzing with guillotine drop isn't happening here.

Ok but he still can't react to V2 Ay so if he does close the distance (which he will)
Sasuke would get his chest blown off by lariat

How exactly ? Sasuke already reacted to him, at close range, multiple times.

And seeing how the drawbacks of overusing the MS are also dropping his reflexes. Means that Ay can attack him more effectively

Wait, so you said that Sasuke would get his chest blown off by lariat, something that's only possible when Sasuke's Susano'o isn't activated, and now you're talking about drawbacks, something that's only possible when Susano'o is activated ? Wth ?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Ay wins if he's patient enough. Last time he was pissed off because of what Sasuke did to his brother, he thought bee was captured and dead. It would be different this time.

V2 can't be tracked by MS, Ay was fighting 5 Madara Susanoo's at once, so ain't no thing but a chicken wing. And of course Ay craps on Amaterasu. And Ay already made it clear that Sasuke's sharingan is no match for Ay, won't even be possible to land genjutsu.

Ay med diff

 

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Ay wins this,

--With his V2, he evades all of sasukes attacks with utmost ease, where the latter has no way of tracking him at all, and needs his susanoo to protect himself from getting killed, where nothing below V2 susanoo would suffice thus draining him out even more

--susanoo arrows, magatamas, amaterasu or enton are all garbage here when they are all laughed at by Ays shunshin, and are only making it worse for sasuke

--With the drawbacks of overusing his MS on the agenda as well as the fact that hes not landing a single hit on Ay, means that the moment he loses his susanoo he gets blitzed and his head gets chopped off

just this .

 

[Haizaki]

So, people just assume Sasuke is just gonna turtle inside Susano'o while Ay doesn't attack ? Lol. Even if that's how it goes, what stops Sasuke from flying on his hawk instead of guarding himself with Susano'o ? Can Ay fly now ?

No but Ay can Shunsin to him in mid air

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OT: The only problem is Sasuke can't hit Ay but if Ay tries to attack his Susanoo, he dies.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Seriously? Enton Susano'o completely negates Ay's CQC and with a single

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Raikage can be caught in a sharingan genjutsu (as he was against Madara) and immobilized long enough for Sasuke to hit him with a Susano'o arrow and kill him. With only having manga intel up until the kage summit arc Ay will go in for an attack like last time and will be burned by enton (or blood loss if he cuts off his extremities).

u do relize madara couldnt catch ay so he hit tsuande and ay stopped to see if she was ok and thats when he got caught by susanno's even with 5 of them madara couldnt handle ay's raw speed to down right catch him so he used tsuande as bait.... tsuande isnt in this fight so sasuke cant try a trick like tht

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

My only question is could Ay guillotine drop breakthrough Sasuke's susanoo and hit/kill him.

well idk tbh when he fought sasuke he was going through susanno's like nothing but when he fought against madara it didnt show him busting through them but it did show him cracking them with ease and easily able to fight mutlple at once..

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

So, people just assume Sasuke is just gonna turtle inside Susano'o while Ay doesn't attack ? Lol. Even if that's how it goes, what stops Sasuke from flying on his hawk instead of guarding himself with Susano'o ? Can Ay fly now ?

ms sasuke should no signs of flying on a hawk and covering it with susanno he had just gotten susanno at tht point the feat ur giving him belongs to ems sasuke which we all know will beat ay but we r talking about ms sasuke who i think cannot beat ay due to sheer fact of horrible stamina (in comparison to ay and then mixed that with his way of spam fighting he is gonna get exhausted easily)... and weaker chakra reserves (compared to ay) and the fact that sasuke cant really outright hit him without suffering damage that ay would give him(meaning he has to hide in his susanno)

 

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

So, people just assume Sasuke is just gonna turtle inside Susano'o while Ay doesn't attack ? Lol. Even if that's how it goes, what stops Sasuke from flying on his hawk instead of guarding himself with Susano'o ? Can Ay fly now ?

do you know what MS mean its not same as EMS

 

[RustledJimmies]

No but Ay can Shunsin to him in mid air

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OT: The only problem is Sasuke can't hit Ay but if Ay tries to attack his Susanoo, he dies.

The only thing I see is him intercepting Naruto by jumping, even if he could, we don't know how fast he would be when using shunshin in the air, nor do we know how high he can go, not to mention the fact that Sasuke reacted to him when he was on the ground, so it wouldn't really help him that much.

ms sasuke should no signs of flying on a hawk and covering it with susanno he had just gotten susanno at tht point the feat ur giving him belongs to ems sasuke which we all know will beat ay but we r talking about ms sasuke who i think cannot beat ay due to sheer fact of horrible stamina (in comparison to ay and then mixed that with his way of spam fighting he is gonna get exhausted easily)... and weaker chakra reserves (compared to ay) and the fact that sasuke cant really outright hit him without suffering damage that ay would give him(meaning he has to hide in his susanno)

do you know what MS mean its not same as EMS

MS Sasuke used his hawk when facing Danzo, or am I missing something here ?

 

[Rimitri Drascalov]

Since MS Sasuke's Susanoo has no feats and logic reasoning to be half of Madara's Susanoo power, and Sasuke's speed is tiers below Madara as feats show, V1 Ay beats him comfortably. Let alone V2 Ay who not even Rinnegan Sasuke or Rikudou Naruto can beat individually.

V1 Ay low diff.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Say what you will about the dumb posts you make, but that's probably the best signature. Ever.

 

[LuckyMan]

Ay destroys him with medium difficulties.

Sasukes Hawk isn't doing shit (for those who think it will). He still can't hit Ay and if he runs/flys away he forfeits and loses. When the summoning time limit ends hes back to square one only with less chakra than he began with and Ay outlasts him 20x over anyway. Ay will keep the pressure up until he gets tired then Lateral Chop GG.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke stomps Kirin GG

 

[ARGUS]

Except that he doesn't need to use Susano'o when he's on his hawk until Ay attacks, at which point he activates Susano'o and Enton.

And what good is susanoo or enton doing, a ribcage susanoo clearly wont suffice when Ay can breach it with his lateral chop,
and Sasuke isnt coating his susanoo with enton all the time, especially not the higher variants, since itll drain him out within seconds,
not to mention that sasuke is still not landing a single hit on Ay, and using susanoo to protect himself just makes this a quick job for Ay, added to the fact that sasukes speed and reflexes are also being dropped due to the drawbacks just makes this worse for him

Sasuke already reacted to guillotine drop used by V2 Raikage, at close range, when Sasuke was down [

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], Blitzing with guillotine drop isn't happening here.

Blitzing with gullotine drop may not happen, but blitzing iin V2 certainly is, when he has no way of even tracking him

How exactly ? Sasuke already reacted to him, at close range, multiple times.

I dont know about you, but

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seems like the perfect definition of a blitz,
especially when his sharingan couldnt keep up with Ay, nor could he track him, and him resorting to enton coated susanoo was the main reason for that,

Wait, so you said that Sasuke would get his chest blown off by lariat, something that's only possible when Sasuke's Susano'o isn't activated, and now you're talking about drawbacks, something that's only possible when Susano'o is activated ? Wth ?

Read what i said,
Ay is only attacking him once the enton coating of his susanoo comes off,
if sasuke resorts to CQC without his susanoo then he gets his chest blown off by a lariat yes,
and if sasuke resorts to combat after using his susanoo (meaning that the drawbacks would still suffice) then sasukes speed anf reflexes would drop significantly, makiing it just easier for Ay to hit him

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke shits
-Summons Aoda
-Watches Ay wasting his time trying to reach Sasuke
-Comes close>Sasuke activates Enton Susano>Ay loses

 

[RustledJimmies]

And what good is susanoo or enton doing, a ribcage susanoo clearly wont suffice when Ay can breach it with his lateral chop,

Don't ignore what happened a few pages ago, the ribcage had just taken a Liger Bomb.

and Sasuke isnt coating his susanoo with enton all the time, especially not the higher variants, since itll drain him out within seconds,

Why would he need to do it all the time when he can do it when Ay attacks ? Smh.

not to mention that sasuke is still not landing a single hit on Ay,

Why would he need to ? Ay can't do shit here either without losing his limbs.

and using susanoo to protect himself just makes this a quick job for Ay, added to the fact that sasukes speed and reflexes are also being dropped due to the drawbacks just makes this worse for him

Sasuke sits in his hawk and waits Ay's attack to activate Susano'o/Enton combo and the latter dies due to Enton burning him to ashes, unless you think Ay will stand there the whole fight without attacking.

I dont know about you, but this seems like the perfect definition of a blitz,
especially when his sharingan couldnt keep up with Ay, nor could he track him, and him resorting to enton coated susanoo was the main reason for that,

All I see in that scan is Sasuke looking at him and activating Enton before Ay attacked, he just didn't expect Ay to not give a f*ck about Enton.

And in what world defending yourself with Susano'o = Not being able to track his speed ? So BM Naruto can't keep up with Edo Madara's speed ? Is that why he activated Kurama avatar ?

Read what i said,
Ay is only attacking him once the enton coating of his susanoo comes off,
if sasuke resorts to CQC without his susanoo then he gets his chest blown off by a lariat yes,
and if sasuke resorts to combat after using his susanoo (meaning that the drawbacks would still suffice) then sasukes speed anf reflexes would drop significantly, makiing it just easier for Ay to hit him

Read what I said.

You're assuming Sasuke will immediately go inside Susano'o when he can merely fly on his hawk and wait until Ay attacks to activate Enton, and you're also assuming that Ay won't attack the whole fight, which doesn't make any sense.

 

[LuckyMan]

You're assuming Sasuke will immediately go inside Susano'o when he can merely fly on his hawk and wait until Ay attacks to activate Enton, and you're also assuming that Ay won't attack the whole fight, which doesn't make any sense.

But your whole premise still fails to his original premise no matter what angle you look at it from.

>Sasuke goes on Hawk, yet still can't hit Ay with anything.
>Summon limit runs out
>Sasuke comes back to ground

He gained nothing from that. Hes not back to square one, hes back to negative square 1 because now he has less chakra than he began with from using summoning and any other projectiles (Amaterasu,Arrows,Fireballs,etc) he tried to hit Ay with. He accomplished nothing and has used chakra he could have saved. He'll be a bit tired, thus lowering his reactions and make it easier for Ay to do what Ay does, just how the Kiff guy explained earlier.

Sasuke can't win.

 

[ARGUS]

Don't ignore what happened a few pages ago, the ribcage had just taken a Liger Bomb.

And?, Ay still breached it with a Lateral Chop, whether you like it or not,

Why would he need to do it all the time when he can do it when Ay attacks ? Smh.

because he cant track Ay or physically evade his attack, nor can he risk getting hit from Ay without any defense at all
because if he resorts to that way of combat then he dies a horrific death,

Why would he need to ? Ay can't do shit here either without losing his limbs.

actually he can more than enough shit, when he can laugh at all of sasukes attacks with his speed,
and laugh at his sharingan precog and attack the moment sasuke loses his enton shield,
he can also just outlast sasukes susanoo which isnt hard for Ay at all,

the only one not doing shit here is sasuke, seeing how he wont be able to land a single hit on Ay,

Sasuke sits in his hawk and waits Ay's attack to activate Susano'o/Enton combo and the latter dies due to Enton burning him to ashes, unless you think Ay will stand there the whole fight without attacking.

What good is the hawk doinng exactly? when sasuke still has no way of landing a single hit on Ay,
how is he even doing anything when he cant even locate AY, let alone physically attack him, smh
and coating higher variants of susanoo with enton is just draining him out within a few minutes, l

and lol at Ay dying to enton, when it failed to burn even the samurai armor, and when AY was unfazed by flames throughout their battle,

All I see in that scan is Sasuke looking at him and activating Enton before Ay attacked, he just didn't expect Ay to not give a f*ck about Enton.

Then you need to get ur eyes checked, because that was a one of the biggest blitzes in the manga
Ay was clearly too fast for him, and his sharingan, as sasuke couldnt even locate him,
him activatiing the enton shield was a clear indication of the fact that he had no chance of keeping up with Ay at all,

And in what world defending yourself with Susano'o = Not being able to track his speed ? So BM Naruto can't keep up with Edo Madara's speed ? Is that why he activated Kurama avatar ?

Read the scan, again,

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defending urself with susanoo is not the problem here
Sasukes eyes couldnt track him nor could he locate him, meaning he was blitzed,

the enton coating on his susanoo was just a defensse made so that Ay cant recklessly attack him,, due to the fact that Sasuke had no hopes of tracking him let alone keep up with his speed,

the denial is strong in this one, Sasuke got blitzed by Ay and thats that

Read what I said.

You're assuming Sasuke will immediately go inside Susano'o when he can merely fly on his hawk and wait until Ay attacks to activate Enton, and you're also assuming that Ay won't attack the whole fight, which doesn't make any sense.

The irony Lol,
What good is the hawk doing exactly? you have yet to prove that to me,
he is still not landing a single hit on Ay, Lol he cant even see him, due to his speed,
how the hell is he doing shit here , and using attacks is just taking even more of his chakra away,
attaaking with the MS here (since they are his only resorts of mid/long range offense) is just icing on the cake

and the hawk summoning is just outlasted as stated by InvisiblePredator, it just brings him back to square one,
he is not achieving anything at alll, and has just used even more of his chakra therefore making the job just easier for Ay

and the drawbacks of overusing MS, ended sasuke in a place where his speed and reflexes were on par with Danzos,
him keeping up with Ay is just a joke

sasuke literally has no way of winning here,

 

[Misconception]

Sasuke med high difficulty...

Sasuke easily showed he can keep up with

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with that scan being brought to the table backs my claims up. Genjutsu will finish Ei isn't trained in no shape or form to fight an Enemy without look at them... Also Ei look in Sasukes eyes not

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but

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. Cee proves that Raikage needs to prep his Shunsui to

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with that being said Ei isn't constantly dodging Amaterasu seeing as he needs to prep his shunsui. What makes this even worst is the only way he's able to know Amaterasu is coming is via eye-contact which he will be one-shotted with Genjutsu if he looks at Sasuke and if he doesn't he dies via Amaterasu seeing as he wouldn't have seen it coming therefore he wouldn't have time for a shunsui means Ei loses...​

Ay wins this,

--With his V2, he evades all of sasukes attacks with utmost ease, where the latter has no way of tracking him at all, and needs his susanoo to protect himself from getting killed, where nothing below V2 susanoo would suffice thus draining him out even more

--susanoo arrows, magatamas, amaterasu or enton are all garbage here when they are all laughed at by Ays shunshin, and are only making it worse for sasuke

--With the drawbacks of overusing his MS on the agenda as well as the fact that hes not landing a single hit on Ay, means that the moment he loses his susanoo he gets blitzed and his head gets chopped off

Completely countered...​