Ms Sasuke and Sage Mode Naruto vs Tobirama

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I just saw a similar thread, but Tobirama had Sasori to help him out, since people seem to be of the opinion that Sasori is non-factor, I was wondering how people think Tobirama would fair against these two alone

Conditions: Sage Mode Naruto has two extra clones like against Pein, this is Ms Sasuke suffering the side effects of overusing the MS (basically the one who fought the 5 Kages), Tobirama is alive and healthy and has 3 edos (let's assume that's the most he can control), he doesn't start with any ftg marks around, but he's allowed to place marks with clones or kunais during the fight..

Restrictions: Ma and Pa

Intel: Tobirama knows he's fighting an Uchiha and a guy with Sage Mode, Naruto and Sasuke know they are fighting the Second Hokage.


Who wins?, or rather how does Tobirama fair against these two at the same time?
 

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I recon Tobirama could take this. No intel on FTG is pretty dangerous for the two.

I don't think Sage Naruto stands much of a chance against Tobirama in the first place, Tobirama also isn't falling prey to uchiha genjutsu (especially not one that doesn't even rival Itachis level). Susanoo isn't much of a threat, causes too much strain for Sasuke anyway and Amaterasu is easily sensed and evaded with body flicker and even if it hits Tobirama, FTG negates it anyway.
 

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Tobirama high difficulty
 

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Do they have knowledge on the second's jutsus or not?
 

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Tobirama wins w/ Edo, and probably loses without Edo.
 

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Naruto could possibly solo -_-

Who said Sasori is a non-factor?
 

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Naruto could possibly solo -_-

Who said Sasori is a non-factor?

read the thread here



and I disagree that Naruto ''solos'' how does he?
 

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Naruto could possibly solo -_-

Who said Sasori is a non-factor?

LMFAO

Madara blitzed Naruto. Tobirama is faster than Madara. There is no way SM Naruto stands a chance. None.
 

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name one edo tobirama has? and it isn't canon he has Izuna so none of that

their names are irrelevant, what matters is that he has them and we know how he uses Edo Tensei!
 

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Tobirama med-diff under these conditions.

Tobirama already knows about Uchiha abilities, and Sasuke's MS won't be much of a surprise because he has fought Susano'o and evidently seen Amaterasu before. He's also fought alongside a Sage numerous times, and knows about Myoubokuzan.

If Sasuke was fresh, it would be a high-diff match.

It's stupid saying Sasori is a non-factor when he's not. He was up against a puppet master with decades of experience, both Sakura and Chiyo had some intel and antidotes, and Sakura was the student of a Sannin. Not to mention the Chikamatsu puppets and besides, even Chiyo stated that Sasori let himself get killed.

In this scenario, Sasori's puppetry, poison, Jiton and natures would keep SM Naruto and MS Sasuke at the end of their tether and with Tobirama around, they'd be hard pressed to keep themselves alive.
 

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LMFAO

Madara blitzed Naruto. Tobirama is faster than Madara. There is no way SM Naruto stands a chance. None.

The same Maddy that trashed the 1st, 2nd and Sasuke?

I've seen no speed feat that led me to believe that base Tobirama is blitzing anyone without ftg. With it, i still believe Naruto could/would sense his marking and precisely predict his actions. Imo it'll come down to hand speed.
 

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The same Maddy that trashed the 1st, 2nd and Sasuke?

I've seen no speed feat that led me to believe that base Tobirama is blitzing anyone without ftg. With it, i still believe Naruto could/would sense his marking and precisely predict his actions. Imo it'll come down to hand speed.

Tobirama's reflexes have shown to be some of the acutest in the series. Madara's assaults until something off-panel occured, presumably Rinbo.

After re-scaling (Adjusting oneself, in this case, after Juubito's initial assault), he was the only shinobi whose reaction times and sharp thinking allowed him to and even tagged the aforementioned without him knowing;
 
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Tobirama gets wrecked no explanation needed.
 

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without intel the duo loses here... ftg or kamui are not something you can go up against without intel... with intel duo takes it... SM naruto is the real danger here.. he has taijutsu that can one shot.. and tobirama is a close range fighter....
 

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naruto and sasuke wins high diff
 
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