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[Well call me what you like I still believe Hashirama would win. That's just me.....I'll wait for Kishi to say I'm incorrect. ^_^
 

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Hashirama > Obito
by quite a margin.

Obito can't maintain his intangibility more than 5 minutes. After those 5 minutes, he needs to run away or hide in Kamui dimension. Otherwise, GG Obito.

In 5 minutes, Obito surely can't do shit against a OP beast like Hashirama. This guy is a tank.

He got massive chakra reserve, advance healing. Not to mention OP jutsu like Shinsuusenju and Myoujinmon that could restrict Juubi and Edo Madara.

It's very far from logic that Rinnegan Obito can take down this guy. Obito's only choice is to run away.
He doesn't need to maintain intangibillty for all that time
 

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Actually Hashirama didn't have Shukaku so he loses either way, he has no counters to Kamui

True, so he had 7 bijuu...

I know he has no counter for kamui, I just want people to see the gap here.
 

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True, so he had 7 bijuu...

I know he has no counter for kamui, I just want people to see the gap here.
Cant mention the bijuu for hashi as a weapon silly. They were never used in combat by him and he cant control the only capture so they wont fight for him.
Obito mid diffs hashirama and dont even get me started on juubito and mock sage obito stomping hashi.
 

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What people[kids] don't understand here that this ain't DBZ,Bleach or OP where power means victory. Seriously even with jubi's power madara is getting owned by two kids. When it comes to the series called NARUTO victory comes down to matchups,intel,techniques,their uniqueness,etc. beside just power. Power is definitely their but unique technique,strategy,intel and matchups etc. become the deciding factor.
Could hidan have been beaten by some other powerhouse except shikamaru? Could Neji have been beaten by some other participants in part 1 except naruto or gaara?[it's game over once you're hit at chakra/pressure points] or What about Kabuto? Could he have been beaten without getting killed other than Itachi/Sasuke(MS)? Could nagato've been beaten if not for valuable intel jiraya died for or naruto? or Could Obito've been beaten if not for his other eye with kakashi? Answer to all is NO.
 

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Hashirama > Obito
by quite a margin.

Obito can't maintain his intangibility more than 5 minutes. After those 5 minutes, he needs to run away or hide in Kamui dimension. Otherwise, GG Obito.

In 5 minutes, Obito surely can't do shit against a OP beast like Hashirama. This guy is a tank.

He got massive chakra reserve, advance healing. Not to mention OP jutsu like Shinsuusenju and Myoujinmon that could restrict Juubi and Edo Madara.

It's very far from logic that Rinnegan Obito can take down this guy. Obito's only choice is to run away.

Read my list of Justus for Obito.

Kamui isn't the only thing he has, when fighting someone powerful he's not just going to use kamui.
 

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Cant mention the bijuu for hashi as a weapon silly. They were never used in combat by him and he cant control the only capture so they wont fight for him.
Obito mid diffs hashirama and dont even get me started on juubito and mock sage obito stomping hashi.

I know, I just wanna be far to the others.
 

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Well Ms Obito with senju DNA has:

Kamui (always uses)
Katon
Mokuton wood cutter/healing
Perfect Inzanagi (disposable eye spam)
Kurama
Demonic Outer path statue (only seen up to torso)/Kamui huge chakra stakes chain
Inyouton (through black rod)
Six path Justus (through black rod) (pain is a perfect example)
Advance Uchiha techniques: Uchiha flame formation, jinchuuriki seal/extraction, inzanagi/inzanami, Gubai fan reflections.
Sharingan genjustu which controls a perfect jinchuuriki.


Rinnegan Obito:
7 bijuus
Outerpath chains/black rod/receivers
Kamui
Katon
Demonic Statue (full body/full power)
Kurama
Mokuton wood cutter/healing
Inyouton through black rod
Six path Justus (like Edo Nagato)
Advance uchiha technique(listed above)


Sm Hashirama: mokuton healing
Earthstyle
Water style
Mokuton flower tree
Mokuton dragon
Mokuton mokujii (golem I think)
Bringer of darkness
Healing seals/senju advanced technique
Life energy/physical energy
Sagemode
Buddah
Wood clone
Senpou gates
Flame formation
Asuhra chakra
8 bijuus in his control (Madara had the ninetails)



^^ I want a non biased person to evaluate please

Obito(even MS) is > everyone except Kaguya, Hagoromo and his brother if we are considering non-juubi jin. characters he's no.4 after the three I mentioned.
As a Juubi jinchuriki though he's the weakest Juubi Jinchuriki and both Madara and Hagoromo are way above him as Juubi Jinchurikis, in fact I started thinking that Madara might be above Hagoromo already because even Hagoromo didn't absorb the tree.
I have a theory that in order to unlock the Juubi's power, you need to first become it's Jinchuriki, take it out and wait till it becomes the tree then absorb it back.
 

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Obito(even MS) is > everyone except Kaguya, Hagoromo and his brother if we are considering non-juubi jin. characters he's no.4 after the three I mentioned.
As a Juubi jinchuriki though he's the weakest Juubi Jinchuriki and both Madara and Hagoromo are way above him as Juubi Jinchurikis, in fact I started thinking that Madara might be above Hagoromo already because even Hagoromo didn't absorb the tree.
I have a theory that in order to unlock the Juubi's power, you need to first become it's Jinchuriki, take it out and wait till it becomes the tree then absorb it back.

No one is stronger than the originals, so cut it out with the sarcasm.

Obito is above Hashirama because uchiha combined with senju is the sages power.

Same with Madara...

If Hashirama couldn't kill EMS Madara, then how in the hell can he kill him with both powers combined?
 

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yes its absolutely right obito > hashirama
 
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