MS Obito Vs MS Itachi

[bogosixone]

50/50 on obito and Itachi (no restrict). Why? because itachi can use KA. if it happens it can one shot Obito but Obito can also one shot itachi with Kamui. With only one eye obito can't use the rinnegan full power.

OT: Can go either way too.

 

[soloGodtachi]

I think Itachi wins this
a dying Itachi was able to keep spamming Amaterasu for two minutes
a healthy one will be able to keep attacking for 5 minutes for sure gg Obito
if survives via Izanami Itachi will just Totsuka stab him

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

That's the problem... It can't pierce Obito due to him being untouchable.. Genjutsu won't work on an elite Uchiha such as Obito..

If we analyse what Minato did, Kamui can be countered with Bunshin. If Itachi creates a number of crow clones, they can all keep attacking Obito until he runs out of time to use Kamui. Izanami can be used on anyone including an Uchiha like it was used in the past against Uchiha, coming from Itachi's words himself.

Itachi can only maintain his Susano'o for around 5 minutes and you could say that it's his trump card. Obito is able to go intangible for 5 minutes; Totsuka can't hit him during that time and Obito could just wait it out till Itachi collapses and his Susano'o goes back to V2/V1. Obito most likely knows about how Izanami works through Madara knowing that he will not duplicate the same feeling. When Obito doesn't have the rinnegan he has anther sharingan in place of it. If it comes down to it Obito will use Izanagi, I doubt that Itachi would force him into such a situation though.

Partly wrong, Kamui can last for only a few seconds as we saw with Obito's fight against Minato. Besides, Itachi is clever so will only use his Susano when it's neccessary like when Obito creates Mokuryu or Mokujin. Then Susano will come in handy. I don't think Obito knows about Izanami. He is not Madara afterall, so obviously there are somethings which Madara may not have told Obito. Also if Obito uses Izanagi, one of his sharingans cannot be used meaning that he won't be able to use Kamui properly. Either the offensive feature of Kamui will go or the defensive feature. This will make Obito sort of weak in the fight giving Itachi the upper hand.

 

[Erin]

I'm going with itachi on this one. He can counter to kamui which will give him ample time to use izanami.

 

[Shura]

If we analyse what Minato did, Kamui can be countered with Bunshin. If Itachi creates a number of crow clones, they can all keep attacking Obito until he runs out of time to use Kamui. Izanami can be used on anyone including an Uchiha like it was used in the past against Uchiha, coming from Itachi's words himself.

That's true, but you're putting him up against a 30 year old Obito. You have to take into consideration that Obito can make bunshins as well or he can simply Kamui himself away from Itachi's bunshins.

 

[Tingun]

That's true, but you're putting him up against a 30 year old Obito. You have to take into consideration that Obito can make bunshins as well or he can simply Kamui himself away from Itachi's bunshins.

But then obito's kamui will be rendered useless if he can't use it offensively, and because of izanami he will either loose, or be forced to flee from battle. Also itachi can use explosive clones to injure obito when he attempts to kamui them.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Nope Itachi dnt knw abt real Madara...Itachi isn't a fool to easily belive that he is the real Madara without considerable evidence.........

I take it the only thing Itachi was fooled by was the lie Obito made up. About the fact he was Madara. Here's a manga scan for evidence. Look at what Obito(Tobi) says while referring to Itachi, "I managed to keep a few secrets from him..." and then states "If I hadn't, I'd be dead right now."

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Okay. Then it's a stomp via Totsuka.

It would not be easy to stomp Obito with Totsuka, especially if he has Mokuton with which he can create Mokuryu and Hotei no jutsu together to bind Itachi's Susano. And if Itachi's Susano is bound, then he cannot use Totsuka. :yeah:

Will Itachi risk losing the Susano and use Izanami??

Obito knw any thng abt Itachi on the top of that u mentioned that Obito has both the eyes that means Obito also had amatarasu as wel as Susano ,,all these powers alonge with Kumui and Hashi's chakra as wel as WS is too much for Itachi even if he is healthy...........!

Having both Mangekyo Sharingan does not mean you will unlock Susano. Look at Shisui who had both mangekyo, and it was never shown he had Susano. The same with Izuna, who also had both Mangekyo sharingan. Having two Mangekyo sharingan for Obito means that he can use Kamui for defensive purposes(like he currently does by materializing himself) as well as for offensive purposes(like the way Kakashi used Kamui, he absorbed Deidara's arm. It is also similar to Amaterasu if you think about it.) so there you have it. *_*

 

[Bieber]

Partly wrong, Kamui can last for only a few seconds as we saw with Obito's fight against Minato.

Obito has to materialize to hit someone and Minato exploited that weakness by using FTG to create a last second counter.

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Besides, Itachi is clever so will only use his Susano when it's neccessary like when Obito creates Mokuryu or Mokujin. Then Susano will come in handy. I don't think Obito knows about Izanami. He is not Madara afterall, so obviously there are somethings which Madara may not have told Obito.

@Bold: Still if Itachi does use Susano'o he can't hit Obito and Obito just needs to wait it out.
Obito doesn't use mokuton because his mokuton is weak. If he was able to use stronger mokuton like Madara he would've used it when fighting Bee/Naruto. Izanami is most likely on the Uchiha tablet in Naka Shrine and you could assume that Madara wouldn't leave out a piece of information like that.

Also if Obito uses Izanagi, one of his sharingans cannot be used meaning that he won't be able to use Kamui properly. Either the offensive feature of Kamui will go or the defensive feature. This will make Obito sort of weak in the fight giving Itachi the upper hand.

Obito only has one MS the other one belongs to Kakashi. He won't lose any feature of his kamui because he has the defensive kamui and Kakashi has the offensive kamui.

 

[darthvader5666]

Obito mid diff

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

I'm going with itachi on this one. He can counter to kamui which will give him ample time to use izanami.

I doubt Itachi will use Izanami though. He is quite smart. I don't think he will sacrifice his Susano for Izanami. What I mean is. If Itachi uses Izanami, he will be blind in one eye so either Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu will be unusable. Susano requires both eyes in order to be used. If Susano is lost, Totsuka and Yata are gone with it. :yeah:

That's true, but you're putting him up against a 30 year old Obito. You have to take into consideration that Obito can make bunshins as well or he can simply Kamui himself away from Itachi's bunshins.

Yah of course, both can make bunshin which is why I said this gonna be a difficult fight.

Obito has to materialize to hit someone and Minato exploited that weakness by using FTG to create a last second counter.

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@Bold: Still if Itachi does use Susano'o he can't hit Obito and Obito just needs to wait it out.
Obito doesn't use mokuton because his mokuton is weak. If he was able to use stronger mokuton like Madara he would've used it when fighting Bee/Naruto. Izanami is most likely on the Uchiha tablet in Naka Shrine and you could assume that Madara wouldn't leave out a piece of information like that.

Obito only has one MS the other one belongs to Kakashi. He won't lose any feature of his kamui because he has the defensive kamui and Kakashi has the offensive kamui.

LoL, I think the manga has contradicted itself a bit. You've pointed out what Konan says but now see what Minato says at the bottom-left on this scan. He says while referring to Obito, "..wields space-techniques that exceed both the seconds and my own.."

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@Purple: Bro, what your saying is right but i changed this fight slightly. I've made it theoretically so that what if Obito fought Itachi and both of them had their MS. Obito had Senju DNA and was able to use Mokuton to an extent so that he could use Mokuryu and Hotei no jutsu in order to compete with Susano with Totsuka + Yata. :yeah:

 

[Bieber]

LoL, I think the manga has contradicted itself a bit. You've pointed out what Konan says but now see what Minato says at the bottom-left on this scan. He says while referring to Obito, "..wields space-techniques that exceed both the seconds and my own.."

Obito has to materialize to hit someone and Minato exploited that weakness by using FTG to create a last second counter.

@Purple: Bro, what your saying is right but i changed this fight slightly. I've made it theoretically so that what if Obito fought Itachi and both of them had their MS. Obito had Senju DNA and was able to use Mokuton to an extent so that he could use Mokuryu and Hotei no jutsu in order to compete with Susano with Totsuka + Yata.

Obito with the defensive ability is already OP, giving him the offensive ability is too much for Itachi to handle. You are also giving him Mokuryu and Hotei which is overkill. Obito will beat him low difficulty if that's the case.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Obito has to materialize to hit someone and Minato exploited that weakness by using FTG to create a last second counter.

So your saying it took Minato a second to lay a hit on Obito. I'm just wondering what he did in the other 4mins while Obito was materializing

Obito with the defensive ability is already OP, giving him the offensive ability is too much for Itachi to handle. You are also giving him Mokuryu and Hotei which is overkill. Obito will beat him low difficulty if that's the case.

Obito's defensive ability can get countered if Itachi uses Bunshin wisely and I'm pretty sure he can. I mean I can just visualize it bro Also I gave Obito his other sharingan so that he can compete with Amaterasu with his offensive ability of Kamui. And I gave Obito some Senju DNA so that he can use Mokuryu and Hotei no jutsu in order to compete with Itachi's Susano which is OP having the spiritual items, Totsuka Sword and Yata Mirror. I tried to make the fight as fair and clean as possible. :yeah:

 

[Bieber]

So your saying it took Minato a second to lay a hit on Obito. I'm just wondering what he did in the other 4mins while Obito was materializing

No, you're not getting it. Obito can't stay intangible for longer than 5 minutes but, he is able to switch from tangible to intangible anytime he wants.

Obito's defensive ability can get countered if Itachi uses Bunshin wisely and I'm pretty sure he can. I mean I can just visualize it bro

I'm just going to assume that you're imagining him warping the bunshin into kamui. He wouldn't warp Itachi [bunshin] into his kamui because that exploits his weakness.

Also I gave Obito his other sharingan so that he can compete with Amaterasu with his offensive ability of Kamui. And I gave Obito some Senju DNA so that he can use Mokuryu and Hotei no jutsu in order to compete with Itachi's Susano which is OP having the spiritual items, Totsuka Sword and Yata Mirror. I tried to make the fight as fair and clean as possible.

Obito could already compete with Itachi's amaterasu. He could either use Izanagi if caught off guard or kamui because it simply won't hit him. If amaterasu does hit him he could just warp himself into kamui.

Obito already had Senju DNA to begin with you just gave him stronger mokuton. Competing with Itachi's Susano'o isn't that hard. He uses it as his trump card and he can't sustain Susano'o for that long; only for about 5 minutes. Totsuka/Yata Mirror are only available in V3 and V4 Susano'o. If Obito waits it out Itachi will start to collapse weakening his Susano'o.

You are underrating Obito way too much.

 

[ck itachi uchiha]

Cant say...itachi have totsuka + yata

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

No, you're not getting it. Obito can't stay intangible for longer than 5 minutes but, he is able to switch from tangible to intangible anytime he wants.

I understand bro, but if Itachi uses the same principle as Minato and get's Obito in the nick of time when Obito becomes tangible again, he can get him. :yeah:

I'm just going to assume that you're imagining him warping the bunshin into kamui. He wouldn't warp Itachi [bunshin] into his kamui because that exploits his weakness.

If Itachi creates bunshin, Obito will not know which is the real one. That is the good thing about using bunshin. Itachi will have a good chance of getting a hit on Obito if he uses bunshin. On the other hand if Obito uses bunshin then, i'd doubt he would be able to use Kamui. Itachi was never seen using Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi when he used bunshin so it would be illogical.

Obito could already compete with Itachi's amaterasu. He could either use Izanagi if caught off guard or kamui because it simply won't hit him. If amaterasu does hit him he could just warp himself into kamui.

You don't get the point here. Itachi's ocular offensive attack is Amaterasu, while Obito's would be Bakufu Ranbu combined with Kamui. However, Bakufu Ranbu is a Fire technique and 'Amaterasu >> Katon'. This is why i've given Obito the his other MS which Kakashi has since 'Kamui >> Amaterasu'. I also wanted to give it to him since it would make him complete. MS Obito is not complete with only one MS. *_*

Obito already had Senju DNA to begin with you just gave him stronger mokuton. Competing with Itachi's Susano'o isn't that hard. He uses it as his trump card and he can't sustain Susano'o for that long; only for about 5 minutes. Totsuka/Yata Mirror are only available in V3 and V4 Susano'o. If Obito waits it out Itachi will start to collapse weakening his Susano'o.

You are underrating Obito way too much.

The misconception here is that you think Itachi can't use Susano for a long time. This is because the only time we saw him use when he was alive was when he was on his last legs. However, healthy Itachi like in this fight would be able to use the Susano more than 10 mins, although his chakra would get drained. But obviously he's not gonna use it straight away into the fight. :yeah: By the way, I think Itachi is the one who is underrated on this thread.

Cant say...itachi have totsuka + yata

But I've made Obito more skilled in Mokuton bro, so he is able to create Mokuryu and Hotei no jutsu which have the potential to bind Itachi's Susano just like they binded the Kyubi with Madara's Perfect Susano.

 

[Lilt]

everyone who votes for itachi is a Fanboy..cause we all know

Obito seemed to think Itachi had a dangerous probability of winning.

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The fact is, Itachi amazed him, and he didn't want to cross him. I say Itachi wins.

And logically, Kamui has its weaknesses. Clones, Amaterasu, etc. can be used to hit Obito and hard.

Trapping Obito in Izanami is also a high possibiity given how linear his style is (compared to Kabuto.)

So no need to go throwing the f-word around for no reason.

 

[Bieber]

I understand bro, but if Itachi uses the same principle as Minato and get's Obito in the nick of time when Obito becomes tangible again, he can get him.

Minato used FTG to counter kamui. Unless you have insane speed or kamui you can't counter it. Itachi is fast but, Obito kept up with BM Naruto like it was nothing.

If Itachi creates bunshin, Obito will not know which is the real one. That is the good thing about using bunshin. Itachi will have a good chance of getting a hit on Obito if he uses bunshin. On the other hand if Obito uses bunshin then, i'd doubt he would be able to use Kamui. Itachi was never seen using Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi when he used bunshin so it would be illogical.

Obito doesn't need to know which one is Itachi. He kept up with BM Naruto and Gai attacking at the same time [they're both faster than Itachi]. Obito won't end up making a bunshin to deal with Itachis', it wastes chakra and bunshins dispel after 1 or 2 hits.

You don't get the point here. Itachi's ocular offensive attack is Amaterasu, while Obito's would be Bakufu Ranbu combined with Kamui. However, Bakufu Ranbu is a Fire technique and 'Amaterasu >> Katon'. This is why i've given Obito the his other MS which Kakashi has since 'Kamui >> Amaterasu'. I also wanted to give it to him since it would make him complete. MS Obito is not complete with only one MS.

You don't always need to fight offensive with offensive. Giving him the offensive kamui would allow him to just snipe off parts of Itachi's body. He could potentially one-shot Itachi; making him have both is overkill and there is no way for Itachi to get passed that.

The misconception here is that you think Itachi can't use Susano for a long time. This is because the only time we saw him use when he was alive was when he was on his last legs. However, healthy Itachi like in this fight would be able to use the Susano more than 10 mins, although his chakra would get drained. But obviously he's not gonna use it straight away into the fight. By the way, I think Itachi is the one who is underrated on this thread.

His chakra would most likely be under half after fighting with Obito. That would only allow him to use Susano'o for 5 minutes because of the drawbacks he gets from it.

Itachi is only being underrated in this thread because most of his fanboys are retarded and don't know how to use "Versus Colosseum".

But I've made Obito more skilled in Mokuton bro, so he is able to create Mokuryu and Hotei no jutsu which have the potential to bind Itachi's Susano just like they binded the Kyubi with Madara's Perfect Susano.

Giving Obito stronger mokuton and the offensive kamui is too much for Itachi to handle even if he is healthy. I personally think MS Obito with weak mokuton, defensive kamui, and a spare sharingan for Izanagi takes this with mid difficulty.

 

[Megan Terumi]

lol kamui wrecks itachi

 

[Zazuke]

Hm, I have to say Itachi

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Minato used FTG to counter kamui. Unless you have insane speed or kamui you can't counter it. Itachi is fast but, Obito kept up with BM Naruto like it was nothing.

You don't have to be fast to counter Kamui, just clever. *_* As we saw with Konan, look how she countered it even though she prepared for it. Itachi can use bunshin and counter Kamui, just like Pein would've beaten Obito by countering Kamui. Well, maybe I shouldn't mention Pein since they are also quite fast.

Obito doesn't need to know which one is Itachi. He kept up with BM Naruto and Gai attacking at the same time [they're both faster than Itachi]. Obito won't end up making a bunshin to deal with Itachis', it wastes chakra and bunshins dispel after 1 or 2 hits.

Please show me manga scans of this.^
Itachi can use bunshin and genjutsu, even combined will be more effective against Obito. By the way, just because Itachi may not be able to use Tsukuyomi against Obito doesn't mean he can't use normal genjutsu against him. If you're asking how? Just like Itachi used genjutsu against Sasuke. Obviously Itachi wasn't even that serious since he was 'acting as the enemy'. Do you remember?

You don't always need to fight offensive with offensive. Giving him the offensive kamui would allow him to just snipe off parts of Itachi's body. He could potentially one-shot Itachi; making him have both is overkill and there is no way for Itachi to get passed that.

Not exactly. What happens if Obito uses the offensive feature of Kamui against Itachi. He will not be able to take parts off Itachi so easily, he could always get tricked if they're bunshin or it's a genjutsu.

His chakra would most likely be under half after fighting with Obito. That would only allow him to use Susano'o for 5 minutes because of the drawbacks he gets from it.

Itachi is only being underrated in this thread because most of his fanboys are retarded and don't know how to use "Versus Colosseum".

Like I said, he can always use genjutsu which he is good at and that doesn't consume much chakra.

Giving Obito stronger mokuton and the offensive kamui is too much for Itachi to handle even if he is healthy. I personally think MS Obito with weak mokuton, defensive kamui, and a spare sharingan for Izanagi takes this with mid difficulty.

Maybe, it was a little stupid to give Obito the extra skill in Mokuton. But oh well, I guess Itachi would really be pushed if this were the case and use his intellect more than ever. Probably, another factor that makes this fight more intense.