MS obito vs dsm kabuto?

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intel - none considering they dont have knowledge on each others abilities

restrictions -ET

intent - to kill

location - where naruto fought 6pop

starting distance - 30 meters

who wins?
 

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Obito wins mid diff. Nothing Kabuto has can even hurt him due to Kamui. The only major threat would be Sound Genjutsu, but not only can he phase right through that as well, even if he is caught, it won't stop him from using Kamui as Shikamaru was able to use Shadows and the Uchiha bros were able to use Genjutsu (Tsukuyomi and generic Sharingan Genjutsu)

This ends with Obito warping Kabuto away.
 

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If Kabuto to meet Obito, prepared Edo soldiers, it says a lot. By hype and feats he wins
 

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If Kabuto to meet Obito, prepared Edo soldiers, it says a lot. By hype and feats he wins

He was showing him the benefits of what partnering up with him would give Obito and his war, and Madara as a reassurance and a means of black mail. But, why wouldn't he use them if a fight broke out in the canon series? Why risk yourself when you can send immortal zombies to due the dirty work.
 

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Obito wins mid diff. Nothing Kabuto has can even hurt him due to Kamui. The only major threat would be Sound Genjutsu, but not only can he phase right through that as well, even if he is caught, it won't stop him from using Kamui as Shikamaru was able to use Shadows and the Uchiha bros were able to use Genjutsu (Tsukuyomi and generic Sharingan Genjutsu)

This ends with Obito warping Kabuto away.

Not really, Dsm kabuto has already displayed tactics that should be more than capable of escaping the Kamui warp. Also regarding Obito merely using Kamui to evade the majority of Kabuto's attack your not taking into considering of the fact that theirs a 5 minute limit and also he becomes solid if he wants to attack via kamui warp which kabuto as i said has counters to.
 

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Not really, Dsm kabuto has already displayed tactics that should be more than capable of escaping the Kamui warp.

Like what? Don't mention liquefication, cause it won't work. Once he's touched Kabuto, the pull of the warping barrier will drag Kabuto in


Also regarding Obito merely using Kamui to evade the majority of Kabuto's attack your not taking into considering of the fact that theirs a 5 minute limit and also he becomes solid if he wants to attack via kamui warp which kabuto as i said has counters to.

5 second limit is not a factor here as Kabuto has no knowledge and no way to exploit it due to the lack of a technique that lasts for over 5 minutes.

Him having to become tangible to attack is no problem here considering Kabuto has no move quick enough to get Obito before he can revert to ghost mode and simply continue his assault on Kabuto.
 

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liquefaction isnt needed here but still is usable Either way you look at it but I won't get into that. I don't know how you reached the conclusion that Obito will simply go up to kabuto and Touch him when he also has sensing abilities which will pretty much become activate if your implying that Obito will kamui behind Dsm kabuto and warp him from there? Not too mention your not even taking into considering of his which can easily bite Obito once he comes into a close radius of obito and inject poison into him, either forcing him to jump away thus stopping his attempt at kamui'ing Kabuto or stop touching kabuto and kamui his self to protect himself form a incoming snake bite.

Then theirs the fact that once Obitos wars, per say to behind obito and materializes his sensing abilities that got with dsm will become active which will only make him even more aware of where obito is, also his snake has been shown to talk to him so it can easily be his back eyes in regards to surprise kamui attacks from obito via warping him.

5 second limit is not a factor here as Kabuto has no knowledge and no way to exploit it due to the lack of a technique that lasts for over 5 minutes.

Not really we already saw how Danzo's subordinate broke down Obitos kamui within mere seconds of sparring with Obito, giving this fight will take a while I see no reason why to assume that kabuto will not eventually find out his 5 minute break kamui restriction but needless to say I guess you have a point.

Him having to become tangible to attack is no problem here considering Kabuto has no move quick enough to get Obito before he can revert to ghost mode and simply continue his assault on Kabuto.


Yeah you have a point there.
 

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Obito mid - low diff

Honestly, debating any character against obito is pointless without any sort of info, obito will win via kamui.

Kabuto HAS to prep SM first, during that time obito can easily track & warp away the snakes (considering he can see kabuto's chakra & can move faster than he can).
 

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liquefaction isnt needed here but still is usable Either way you look at it but I won't get into that. I don't know how you reached the conclusion that Obito will simply go up to kabuto and Touch him when he also has sensing abilities which will pretty much become activate if your implying that Obito will kamui behind Dsm kabuto and warp him from there? Not too mention your not even taking into considering of his which can easily bite Obito once he comes into a close radius of obito and inject poison into him, either forcing him to jump away thus stopping his attempt at kamui'ing Kabuto or stop touching kabuto and kamui his self to protect himself form a incoming snake bite.

Nope. Obito only becomes tangible when he is about to warp the opponent, and can easily become intangible to evade any incoming threats as seen when he the same would happen to Kabuto if he tried this. If Obito gets close and Kabuto tries to bite him with his snake, then Obito phases right through it and touches Kabuto instead.

Why would he have to jump away when he can phase through the snake and just touch Kabuto instead? Why would he even need to phase when he can touch the snake and warp Kabuto away like that as they are physically connected.

He can sense Obito coming but it won't change the fact that once he's touched, its gg and he can't do anything to prevent this from happening.

Then theirs the fact that once Obitos wars, per say to behind obito and materializes his sensing abilities that got with dsm will become active which will only make him even more aware of where obito is, also his snake has been shown to talk to him so it can easily be his back eyes in regards to surprise kamui attacks from obito via warping him.

Again, he can sense him but he can't stop him, he can phase right through all of his offenses, touch him or his snake (which is connected to him apparently) and warp him away.

Obito doesn't even need to try and take him by surprise since he can phase through anything and everything Kabuto tosses at him. This barely qualifies as mid diff considering Kabuto can't hinder or hurt him.


Not really we already saw how Danzo's subordinate broke down Obitos kamui within mere seconds of sparring with Obito, giving this fight will take a while I see no reason why to assume that kabuto will not eventually find out his 5 minute break kamui restriction but needless to say I guess you have a point.

Did they find out his 5 second time limit? No. It took Konan a long long time of studying Obito's abilities to figure that out, and she was always near him since they were in the same organization. Kabuto has a far less time limit than she did, and he isn't going to figure it out via his attacks as he can't ever force Obito to that point.
 

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Nope. Obito only becomes tangible when he is about to warp the opponent, and can easily become intangible to evade any incoming threats as seen when he the same would happen to Kabuto if he tried this. If Obito gets close and Kabuto tries to bite him with his snake, then Obito phases right through it and touches Kabuto instead.

Why would he have to jump away when he can phase through the snake and just touch Kabuto instead? Why would he even need to phase when he can touch the snake and warp Kabuto away like that as they are physically connected.

He can sense Obito coming but it won't change the fact that once he's touched, its gg and he can't do anything to prevent this from happening.



Again, he can sense him but he can't stop him, he can phase right through all of his offenses, touch him or his snake (which is connected to him apparently) and warp him away.

Obito doesn't even need to try and take him by surprise since he can phase through anything and everything Kabuto tosses at him. This barely qualifies as mid diff considering Kabuto can't hinder or hurt him.




Did they find out his 5 second time limit? No. It took Konan a long long time of studying Obito's abilities to figure that out, and she was always near him since they were in the same organization. Kabuto has a far less time limit than she did, and he isn't going to figure it out via his attacks as he can't ever force Obito to that point.

You raise some good points KG. You may have changed my mind on this.
 

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obito can phase through physical attacks and can warp kabuto before kabuto uses genjutsu
I see no reason why to assume that kabuto will not eventually find out his 5 minute break kamui restriction but needless to say I guess you have a point.
how could ANYONE find that out? i mean konan only did after more than a decade of studying kamui
 

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If Kabuto can sustain a combination of Mugen Onsa and Hakugeki for 5 minutes, then he can win.
 
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