MS Kakashi vs MS Sasuke

[EZQ]

Knowledge: The same they had on their encounter on the danzo bridge

Conditions: They're both rested, none of them is blind. Kakashi is war arc and Sasuke is Danzo fight.

Restrictions: None

 

[KidGamer65]

Kakashi either warps him away, Susanoo and all. Or Sasuke just spams Susanoo Arrow, forcing Kakashi to keep spamming Kamui. It all depends on who drops first, but considering Susanoo takes more chakra than Kamui on those arrows...

Kakashi wins in the end.

 

[BLAZE]

war arc kakashi high diff

 

[Apêx1]

In character and Danzo intel means Kakashi won't know shit about Sasuke's abilities. Kakashi never starts fights with Kamui like people try to suggest here, so Sasuke ends up killing him in CQC with Kenjutsu.

@KG, Sasuke fired 2 Susano arrows after having already depletd his chakra against Danzo. Sasuke can probably use 10+ arrows, Kakashi can barely use 4 Kamui's in a short amount of time.

 

[LuckyMan]

In character and Danzo intel means Kakashi won't know shit about Sasuke's abilities. Kakashi never starts fights with Kamui like people try to suggest here, so Sasuke ends up killing him in CQC with Kenjutsu.

@KG, Sasuke fired 2 Susano arrows after having already depletd his chakra against Danzo. Sasuke can probably use 10+ arrows, Kakashi can barely use 4 Kamui's in a short amount of time.

Sasuke beating Kakashi in CQC with Kenjutsu??

All he needs is 1 Kamui so he still wins.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke beating Kakashi in CQC with Kenjutsu??

All he needs is 1 Kamui so he still wins.

Since when can Kakashi keep up with MS Sasuke in CQC when he only has a Kunai while Sasuke has a sword which can be extended through Raiton?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Since when can Kakashi keep up with MS Sasuke in CQC when he only has a Kunai while Sasuke has a sword which can be extended through Raiton?

Kakashi can run raiton on his weapons. Sasuke's 5m sword isn't a means of keep away. He'd simply get out spaced by the much superior lightning dog.

 

[LuckyMan]

Since when can Kakashi keep up with MS Sasuke in CQC when he only has a Kunai while Sasuke has a sword which can be extended through Raiton?

Since Raikiri can be applied to his Kunai. Since more reach isn't going to make up for the gap in their bukijutsu skills. Since Kakashi has clone feints. Since Kakashi can open a Gate to increase his physical strengths 5x. Since Kakashi already dealt with people with more reach with only a kunai (Hidan, Zabuza, etc). Since Kakashi has more distracting jutsu and tactics to aid him.

It really all depends on what you mean by CQC though tbh because many people see it differently. What is the limit of CQC to you?

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Kamui snipe gg

 

[lelerskates]

In character and Danzo intel means Kakashi won't know shit about Sasuke's abilities. Kakashi never starts fights with Kamui like people try to suggest here, so Sasuke ends up killing him in CQC with Kenjutsu.

@KG, Sasuke fired 2 Susano arrows after having already depletd his chakra against Danzo. Sasuke can probably use 10+ arrows, Kakashi can barely use 4 Kamui's in a short amount of time.

10 arrows? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH classic fanfic. Youre a special little guy arent you? Kakashi mid diff.

 

[Apêx1]

Since Raikiri can be applied to his Kunai. Since more reach isn't going to make up for the gap in their bukijutsu skills. Since Kakashi has clone feints. Since Kakashi can open a Gate to increase his physical strengths 5x. Since Kakashi already dealt with people with more reach with only a kunai (Hidan, Zabuza, etc). Since Kakashi has more distracting jutsu and tactics to aid him.

It really all depends on what you mean by CQC though tbh because many people see it differently. What is the limit of CQC to you?

-Yes, but how would it help since he's never close such a distance? Another thing, Sasuke has absolute control of the Raiton, so he can have the Raiton radially expand [

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-Sasuke's skill is superior in Kenjutsu though.

-Clone feints require some kind of distraction against a Sharingan user who can easily see Kakashi's level of hand seals. No clone feints will happen here.

-Opening the Gate won't do anything given the difference in range. His strength will have little relevance. He dealt with Hidan? You mean to say he deflected all his attacks with a Kunai, and Hidan had no MS, he didn't have Sasuke's speed nor Sasuke's Kenjutsu skills. It's not like he beat Hidan though. And Zabuza is fodder so he doesn't count, he's slower then Kakashi and far less skilled imo, no pre-cog either.

CQC imo is anything Sasuke or Kakashi can do while next to each other. So if Sasuke wants to clash with Kakashi and then follow up with something like

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. I don't believe CQC is a non-Ninjutsu or Genjutsu oriented fight, I see it as its literal definition, close quarters combat which entails anything a person can do within the short distance between him and his opponent.

10 arrows? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH classic fanfic. Youre a special little guy arent you? Kakashi mid diff.

He used 5 arrows, 2 against Kakashi and 3 against Danzo. Along with 2 Genjutsu's, Amaterasu, long term Susano activation, summoned a Hawk, a Katon, etc. He should definitely be capable of using 10 if he chooses not to do anything else with his chakra.

 

[Haizaki]

It could go either way but I'll side with Kakashi on this one.

Sasuke's only chance is if he uses Amaterasu on Kakashi and while warping it away from himself, Sasuke takes advantage of this by quickly firing an arrow making it hard to deal with.

 

[EZQ]

I think Apex is right if this is IC Kakashi won't start with Kamui of the batt. But if this is IC it means Sasuke spams MS which is countered by Kamui.

After warping the first arrow Kakashi realizes he needs kamui right there and finishes.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kamui gives Kakashi the win.​

 

[KidGamer65]

In character and Danzo intel means Kakashi won't know shit about Sasuke's abilities. Kakashi never starts fights with Kamui like people try to suggest here, so Sasuke ends up killing him in CQC with Kenjutsu.

@KG, Sasuke fired 2 Susano arrows after having already depletd his chakra against Danzo. Sasuke can probably use 10+ arrows, Kakashi can barely use 4 Kamui's in a short amount of time.

Karin healed him after the Danzo fight. Though I agree that Kakashi might fall first though since most of his Kamui uses were against small-medium sized objects and he still ran out of chakra.

 

[Apêx1]

Karin healed him after the Danzo fight. Though I agree that Kakashi might fall first though since most of his Kamui uses were against small-medium sized objects and he still ran out of chakra.

But Karin doesn't replenish chakra, she only heals wounds. But no point in arguing this if you agree.

 

[LuckyMan]

But Karin doesn't replenish chakra, she only heals wounds. But no point in arguing this if you agree.

Yes it does. It restored Tsunades chakra when Orochimaru came to help the Gokage. Also, Kakashi has warped the Gedos head and arm, Sasuke and his Susanoo is will be one shotted.

 

[EZQ]

IC Kakashi realizes Kamui is his only option after warping Sasuke's first arrow. I don't think Sasuke can win this unless Kakashi's character behaviour is like against pain.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

But Karin doesn't replenish chakra, she only heals wounds. But no point in arguing this if you agree.

Karin does replinish chakra.

 

[Bogard]

Nothing changed. Kakashi still wins via Kamui snipe.