- He still had enough stamina to use this much Amaterasu. Look at the black flames on the dome and then compare it to the flames on the ground.
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Again, why are you linking me to the resulting wildfire?
The actual Amaterasu used by Itachi were
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- Thank you for proving that Kakashi does build up chakra in order to use Kamui Lol. Now I'm 110 percent sure he can react to Kamui accordingly.
Thank you for proving that you are 110% hung up on outdated manga facts.
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This link only further facilitates my belief that Kamui, regardless of his stamina reserves, will still affect his body negatively to the point of where he won't be able to move or do any other attacks for quite a bit. This was during the war arc when his stamina and chakra reserves had increased and he still stated that he needed Sakura to protect his body after he used Kamui. Also, this was quite a few seconds after Obito appeared. That's more than enough time for Itachi to whip out a dozen bunshins and hordes of crows (which he has shown to be able to do with a mere lift of his cape).
Why are you showing me scans from 200 chapters ago? This is literally the definition of irrelevant data.
As I said earlier, Kakashi can beat Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura because he beat them in the beginning of the manga, and without even using the Sharingan. Thus, he is the strongest character in the manga because Naruto and Sasuke are currently the strongest, and even with Sakura for backup, they still lost to him without his Sharingan being used.
That is literally the logic you are using here when consistently referring to Kakashi's older Kamui usages.
- I didn't say he needed to outrun Kamui. All he needs to do is start out with clones (which he has shown to be able to do instantly) confuse himself in the midst of them and shunshin above Kakashi.
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He isn't going to use Kage Bunshin faster than Kakashi can warp him.
- Kakashi has precog but lacks speed reaction speed to something as fast as Ama
For the third time, this is a strawman.
I never,
ever said that Kakashi will be dodging Amaterasu. I said he will pull off Kamui faster than Itachi can pull off Amaterasu.
- No, he's not. He also has a lower score in the databook.
Yeah, based on a databook from nearly 300 chapters ago.
Since then, Kakashi has shown the ability to keep pace with Gated Gai, a V2 Jinchuuriki with both Sharingan and Rinnegan, and the ability to outright blitz Obito (upon entry to the Kamui dimension, he was up in Obito's face with a Raikiri before the latter could even get up, let alone react).
- Kakashi has those, but like you said, he wants to use Kamui right away even though he's IC, so he won't use those while Itachi will.
You have clearly proven in this thread, time and time again, that you do not know what IC is, and every time someone tries to explain it to you, you regurgitate the same line over and over again. Here it is one last time:
(1) Knowledge changes how a character would fight IC. If you know your opponent has Katon, you aren't going to stupidly use Futon against him just because you've used Futon in every single fight you've been in. The fact that you
know he holds an elemental advantage over you means that you have every reason to change your tactic. This is even more so for a tactical genius, like Kakashi.
(2) Power changes how a character would fight IC. For Part I Kakashi, it was IC for him to only use Raikiri a couple of times in a fight. Why? Because it wasted a large portion of his stamina back then. Now he uses Raikiri like a standard punch. Why? Because it no longer wastes a large portion of stamina for him. He has used eight of them in the current war, along with five Kamui, a Doton wall, and two Kage Bunshin, not to mention days of Sharingan usage.
Now swap Raikiri with Kamui. Part II Kakashi struggled with Kamui for the most part up until the War Arc. What was IC for Part II Kakashi back 400 chapters ago back when he was terrible at using Kamui isn't going for a Kakashi that can both control it and has the chakra pool to cope with its recoil.
Same idea with Sasuke and his Mangekyo Sharingan. Same idea with Naruto and his Futon Rasenshuriken. What was IC for a weaker version of a character is never going to be IC for a stronger version of that very same character. The "power" changes a character undergoes and the knowledge a character possesses dynamically changes what the definition of IC will be.
And yeah, it is happening before a Kamui execution, seeing as his hand-seals have proven to be faster than Kamui.
Now Itachi has V2 Raikage reflexes, has the speed to physically react to Kamui, and can weave handseals faster than Kakashi can just glare at him?
I'm logging for awhile. I can counter tomorrow or someone else can take my place seeing as how I've been debating against over a dozen people mainly by myself v.v.
The fact that a dozen people disagree with you shows you just how wrong you are.
