MS Kakashi vs Mū

[super yang]

Muu wins w/ cube jinton or stealth mode assassination.

 

[Blackdeath667]

Mu wins mid diff

 

[ARGUS]

kakashi wins if he can kamui snipe muu off, before he fires off jinton,
muu wins if he catches kakashi off guard, and atomises him off

 

[Bronze]

Kakashi shits.

Even if he cant sense Mu; he can detect him with his nose. Kaka ship was noted to be better than Kiba. Given off that he can summon his dogs to detect Mu, as well. Invisibility isn't working on physical sensing.​

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Kakashi shits.

Even if he cant sense Mu; he can detect him with his nose. Kaka ship was noted to be better than Kiba. Given off that he can summon his dogs to detect Mu, as well. Invisibility isn't working on physical sensing.​

He hides his complete presence tht includes scent U_U the only way to find him is having a sensing method through via physical contact

 

[kakashi ms]

Onooki used jinton with Mu alone like 4 times and used it Atleast 3 4 times when against madara I will discount one because one was mixed with Tsunade chakra
But point is onooki who is well passed his prime used it around 7-8 times in war imagine how many times Mu can use it in his prime and onooki said he was better then him at it-.-


As for u saying he won't have enough time to react to it come on deidara tried to pull his arm out of it the fact tht deidara had time to do tht implied that there is a little bit of time to do something about getting ur full body warped
Luckily Mu splitting doesn't require handseals (look it up) and can do it at will so I have no reason to believe that Mu couldn't fissure his way out of kamoi

ounki used about 3 jintons on muu but he said after that when he was fighting the second mizu that he cant use it again (and he failed to use jinton when he tried to destroy the second mizu’ summoning)
but when tusonade came to the battle field , she gave him chakra and that was before he used any jinton on madara

so i think unoki cant use jinton motre than 4 times at the best

i cant believe that you still speak about kakashi’ kamui on dieadra , i am sure that you know that this kamui on dieadra was the first time for kakashi to use the kamui , and kakashi himself said that after he warped dieadra’hand only

but this is war arc kakashi who has feats to warp bm naruto clone faster than obito with sharingan and riningan can notice
,he was able to warp gedo’ arm( which is like human size x100 ) faster than s/t summoning and before teleporting to madara
kakashi warped 2 susano’arrows coming towards him althought his ms wasn’t activated when the arrows were shot

so mu wont have time to react and split before kamui takes his head off

he wasnt even able to.split before naruto rasingan made holes in his body so when he splitted ,his splitted body was damaged too but for edo tensi

once muu appear(that is if sharingan couldnt see him) kakashi will rip his head off

 

[Gold Lightning]

If Mu can't be detected at all even by an MS, then how come Mu didn't stomp Madara? Madara fodderized him to his knees, Kakashi is great at detection anyway and notices slight movements and has great smell.

Shadow clones negate invisibility. Using a lightning clone will paralyse. Mu of he tries to attack it and will give away his position.

 

[Bronze]

He hides his complete presence tht includes scent U_U the only way to find him is having a sensing method through via physical contact

Mu only hides his Chakra. Never said about his scent. Nose sensing is physical contact.

 

[DMT]

If Mu can't be detected at all even by an MS, then how come Mu didn't stomp Madara? Madara fodderized him to his knees, Kakashi is great at detection anyway and notices slight movements and has great smell.

Shadow clones negate invisibility. Using a lightning clone will paralyse. Mu of he tries to attack it and will give away his position.

That was before 60-70 years ago when EMS Madara fought 2 kids
we don't know if Mū created the Jinton in this time or even used the invisibility
Madara's PS is the perfect counter to Mū's invisibility
he can stay in the PS until Mū run of chakra .

 

[LustyLover]

Kakashi takes this. I don't see how Mū wins.

 

[hokutoshinken]

Kakashi stomps

 

[Draegod]

Kakashi shits.

Even if he cant sense Mu; he can detect him with his nose. Kaka ship was noted to be better than Kiba. Given off that he can summon his dogs to detect Mu, as well. Invisibility isn't working on physical sensing.​

Better then part one Kiba. Kiba's nose is on a completely different level in part two no competition! And Kakashi literally tried to sniff the cloud shinobi but couldn't and stated his scent was removed, Muu who's tech is on a different level isn't even in discussion. Sight, smell are all out of the question! Kakashi has one more tech that none of you have mention and i doubt will. Besides that in character kakashi loses high diff.

 

[Draegod]

ounki used about 3 jintons on muu but he said after that when he was fighting the second mizu that he cant use it again (and he failed to use jinton when he tried to destroy the second mizu’ summoning)
but when tusonade came to the battle field , she gave him chakra and that was before he used any jinton on madara

so i think unoki cant use jinton motre than 4 times at the best

i cant believe that you still speak about kakashi’ kamui on dieadra , i am sure that you know that this kamui on dieadra was the first time for kakashi to use the kamui , and kakashi himself said that after he warped dieadra’hand only

but this is war arc kakashi who has feats to warp bm naruto clone faster than obito with sharingan and riningan can notice
,he was able to warp gedo’ arm( which is like human size x100 ) faster than s/t summoning and before teleporting to madara
kakashi warped 2 susano’arrows coming towards him althought his ms wasn’t activated when the arrows were shot

so mu wont have time to react and split before kamui takes his head off

he wasnt even able to.split before naruto rasingan made holes in his body so when he splitted ,his splitted body was damaged too but for edo tensi

once muu appear(that is if sharingan couldnt see him) kakashi will rip his head off

Used it about 8 times then used 4 Rock clones as well. And that was before he fought the Mizukage.

 

[Omega]

MU's invisibility does not really matter in this fight. Kakashi has shown (which is an underrated trait of his) to literally sniff out enemies as well or even better than Kiba. He would merely smell where Mu is and Kumai snipe a large enough area to destroy him, or he would use that great mind of his and develop a strategy while continue to sniff him. If necessary even summon nin kin not that he needs to. His kumui can warp an area as large as the Gedo head and arm...thats huge and hard to avoid. He can also warp super fast...Obito couldn't even track his kumui when he warped Naruto away. Kakashi can avoid anything Mu has by kumui'ing hmself away but he would never need to do that. Kumui destroys Mu easily.

 

[Draegod]

MU's invisibility does not really matter in this fight. Kakashi has shown (which is an underrated trait of his) to literally sniff out enemies as well or even better than Kiba. He would merely smell where Mu is and Kumai snipe a large enough area to destroy him, or he would use that great mind of his and develop a strategy to continue to sniff him. If necessary even summon nin kin not that he needs to. His kumui can warp an area as large as the Gedo head and arm...thats huge and hard to avoid.

Already debunked your post with manga facts. And you do not know how Kamui works if you think he can open giant holes for no reason. And kakashi doesn't Kamui off bat or often during fights he doesn't need to (or should I say, would be foolish to since he doesnt know his Opponent 100%).

 

[Omega]

Before he fought Obito who we thought was madara at the time (when they met Sasuke) He started with Kumui. When Sasuke used arrows he used Kumui, if Mu uses Jinton or anything that makes Kakashi thinks he is going to lose he is going to use Kumui. He's been spamming Kumui the last half of the war cuz he needed to. Why don't you think he will do it against Mu. He will probably try Raikiri once he sniffs him and once Mu tries Jinton its going Kumui of course, regardless you still failed to tell me how Mu will win, all you said is Kakashi won't use kumui which he will use eventually. Kakashi is not an idiot after all. He might even use a kunai infused Raikiri and throw it in the direction of Mu, start off with a clone like he normally does and then strike at the right moment. Not to mention his tai and speed isnt that bad either very underrated on this base (can even open up one of the gates). Jinton takes sometime to prepare btw.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Kakashi can detect people by disturbances in air current so if invisible muu tries to sneak up to him he will know

But still it could go either way

 

[Draegod]

Before he fought Obito who we thought was madara at the time (when they met Sasuke) He started with Kumui. When Sasuke used arrows he used Kumui, if Mu uses Jinton or anything that makes Kakashi thinks he is going to lose he is going to use Kumui. He's been spamming Kumui the last half of the war cuz he needed to. Why don't you think he will do it against Mu. He will probably try Raikiri once he sniffs him and once Mu tries Jinton its going Kumui of course, regardless you still failed to tell me how Mu will win, all you said is Kakashi won't use kumui which he will use eventually. Kakashi is not an idiot after all. He might even use a kunai infused Raikiri and throw it in the direction of Mu, start off with a clone like he normally does and then strike at the right moment. Not to mention his tai and speed isnt that bad either very underrated on this base (can even open up one of the gates). Jinton takes sometime to prepare btw.

He didn't start with Kamui, he was force to use it or suffer damage. And even with Obito he didn't use it till wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy after the Bijuu's were gone and the Gedo was about to transform after it received the sage tools. And pertaining "Spamming", he spammed small easy Kamui's at first till the Kyubi chakra allowed him to spam the bigger sized kamui's FASTER with less charge time. And in that fight Kamui was literally there only hope for victory.

Kakashi has never seen Jinton nor knows about it's power or legend (even Shukaku who is smarter had no idea). The way jinton works is two ways; a Blast or forms around you. Not saying Kakashi wouldn't have way(s) to combat both forms of Jinton, just reminding that Muu has options. Once invisible Muu can apply many tactics such as double invisibility with his double to fake out kakashi and his tactics.

And I'll say it again! YOU CANNOT SNIFF MUU!!! Where are you getting this from? Pertaining gates... It's a reason he doesn't and never will open 1 gate. His body is not the gate type and the first gate isn't even worth it. And no one underrates his Taijutsu, it's just many thinks he Kamui's off bat so there is no need to fight. lol

 

[Omega]

Every person Kakashi has fought he has seen through their techs and passed the knowledge to others...EVERYONE HE HAS FOUGHT. P.S Mu knows about Kumui????????????? SO lets see they both don't know about each others attacks (though I think the thread said they have manga knowledge but oh well). Kumui snipe is even more deadly to Mu if he doesnt know about it. When the jinton forms around him or what not he will either kumui away or hide underground. He's pretty good at seeing through techs, like when the five tails came at him and Gai, he stated not to get close to the attack (Im sure he has never faced a tech like that but nonetheless he saw through it). Kakashi is known to use clones to deduce enemy tactics anyway. The worst this ends is in a draw. I think Kakashi is to good of an anaylyst to lose this fight. If he needs Kumui he will indeed use it and you can say that much. Especially now that he knows he can use it on himself. In other fights he didnt know that and still did well often fighting enemies without entail on them. He even figured out Obito's ability. (Like with Sasuke he stated : "I had no choice but to use Kumui") He will use it when he needs to. If kakashi closes in on him he will not be able to perfom Jinton. I do agree with him not using a big area of Kumui, ill give you that but I just dont see anything that kakashi can't deduce and react to via his normal methods as he has always found enemy strategy and tech to their most finite detail even noticing Pains 5 second recharge for repelling techs.

 

[Jimihendrix]

i'll go with the classic, kamui gg