MS Kakashi or MS Itachi

[Romy9]

Stahp the selective reading

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Isn't that ironic? Just because Kakashi has the "same eye" doesn't mean it won't work. Besides, it worked already against his regular Sharingan, but it seems I have to repeat what Itachi said in part 1. Kakashi doesn't have an Uchiha body on which the eye relies the most.

 

[Sound]

War arc Kakashi wins mid diff against Itachi. Every other version below loses.​

 

[Torche]

Can't you read? Lemme make it bigger for you.

Kakashi took what he learnt, and countered Itachi's genjutsu in Part 2.

Lol [size=+2]When did Kakashi ever counter Tsukuyomi? Bring me a scan, I'll be waiting all night long.[/size]

 

[Raijingan]

Itachi without much trouble

 

[Aikor]

Can't you read? Lemme make it bigger for you.

Kakashi took what he learnt, and countered Itachi's genjutsu in Part 2.

But he still cant counter itachis Tsukuyomi LOL

 

[Romy9]

Lol When did Kakashi ever counter Tsukuyomi? Bring me a scan, I'll be waiting all night long.

You didn't make it big enough. Lol

 

[Aikor]

Lol When did Kakashi ever counter Tsukuyomi? Bring me a scan, I'll be waiting all night long.

Hes talkin bout the normal genjutsu itachi used again kakashi durin the 1st part of shippuden where they were goin after gaaraa

 

[residentevil]

itachi just cuts kakashi's nuts off.

itachi is just more powerful

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Isn't that ironic? Just because Kakashi has the "same eye" doesn't mean it won't work. Besides, it worked already against his regular Sharingan, but it seems I have to repeat what Itachi said in part 1. Kakashi doesn't have an Uchiha body on which the eye relies the most.

So if a much less experienced 3T Kakashi gets raped by Tsukuyomi, a much more experienced MS Kakashi would too? And what does it matter that he doesn't have an Uchiha body? Unless it's stated somewhere that you need an Uchiha body to break a Genjutsu, that point is moot.

 

[Torche]

You didn't make it big enough. Lol

Let me rectify that. Lol

Hes talkin bout the normal genjutsu itachi used again kakashi durin the 1st part of shippuden where they were goin after gaaraa

The scan I posted was clearly talking about Tsukuyomi.

 

[Aikor]

Im sure if itachi knws abt the kamui he will have a good strategy like usin a clone and attacking from behind

 

[Aikor]

So if a much less experienced 3T Kakashi gets raped by Tsukuyomi, a much more experienced MS Kakashi would too? And what does it matter that he doesn't have an Uchiha body? Unless it's stated somewhere that you need an Uchiha body to break a Genjutsu, that point is moot.

Sasuke never unlocked MS and countered tsukuyomi cause hes an uchiha
Same would happen if kakashi was an uchiha but hes not so he cant counter it even using MS

 

[ATD]

Kakashi surpassed itachi when he had figuerd out the perfect counter for his genjutsu including tsukuyomi : clone feints ( Kakshis most use battle tactic)

Kakashis hiding like a mole + raiton kagebunshin clone feint would reach itachi even he would be inside of his susanno ( kakashi showed early shippuden that he could managed to make a clone feint without itachi had noticed)

add kamuis and its speed and kakashi will be able to attack itachi from distance ( itachi is close/midrange fighter)

kakashis chakrapool has surpassed itachis low chakra resources.

Kakashi showed that his speed improved during the war ( on pair with obitos,6 gate guy and jinchurikis v2) so he maybe surpassed itachi here too.

At least he can hid himself in kamui land if needed ( could stay there to plan strategys and clone traps)

Itachi ofc is a strong opponent and kakashi would need a lot of chakra but in the end he would take it high diff.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

This is a pretty intricate match up, actually.

IMO, it's dependent on Kakashi's speed with Kamui, and how many times he can use it before straining himself. If he's faster than Amaterasu (usage speed) and can use it 2-3 times in rapid succession, he could take the win.

It gets confusing during the War arc to evaluate this. How many times did Kakashi use Kamui in total? How many times was that due to Kyuubi chakra? These are questions that need to be ironed out before determining which feats are rightfully his and his alone.

Itachi's genjutsu (except for Tsukuyomi) won't work on MS Kakashi, so there's a big disadvantage for him right there. And Kakashi probably won't make the same mistake he did in their fight in Part 1, so Itachi won't be able to catch him as easily.

Anyways, if this was against pre-War arc Kakashi, it's Itachi's win. So unless he has the improvements I listed, the outcome wouldn't change.

 

[Romy9]

So if a much less experienced 3T Kakashi gets raped by Tsukuyomi, a much more experienced MS Kakashi would too? And what does it matter that he doesn't have an Uchiha body? Unless it's stated somewhere that you need an Uchiha body to break a Genjutsu, that point is moot.

What makes you think he's MUCH more experienced? Also, what makes you think Itachi gave his all during their encounter? Huh? It matters a lot if you're not into fanfiction and care about facts, which I clearly presented to you. The ordinary Genjutsu is what's moot here because he could never break Tsukuyomi. So all in all, your arguments are invalid.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

What makes you think he's MUCH more experienced? Also, what makes you think Itachi gave his all during their encounter? Huh? It matters a lot if you're not into fanfiction and care about facts, which I clearly presented to you. The ordinary Genjutsu is what's moot here because he could never break Tsukuyomi. So all in all, your arguments are invalid.

What makes him much more experienced you say, huh? Maybe the fact that he had 3 years to train himself and create a counter strategy to Itachi's Genjutsu.
And what's funny here is that you say that you brought "facts", when I brought manga scans that shit on your "facts".

 

[Romy9]

What makes him much more experienced you say, huh? Maybe the fact that he had 3 years to train himself and create a counter strategy to Itachi's Genjutsu.
And what's funny here is that you say that you brought "facts", when I brought manga scans that shit on your "facts".

Again with the Genjutsu, huh? It doesn't help your case, don't you realize it? He didn't counter Tsukuyomi.

Oh, you don't believe my words? I guess I'll have to find the scans. You didn't bring the right scans, you ironically said to stop selective reading whereas you're doing the exact same thing, which is hilarious. I'll repeat what I said about your scans:

1. Only an Uchiha with the same blood can break his Tsukuyomi, which means Sasuke.
2. You need an Uchiha body to operate the Sharingan properly, let alone have an easier struggle in a Tsukuyomi.

You can continue your childish, pointless bickering, but it won't help in this debate.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Again with the Genjutsu, huh? It doesn't help your case, don't you realize it? He didn't counter Tsukuyomi.

Oh, you don't believe my words? I guess I'll have to find the scans. You didn't bring scans, you ironically said to stop selective reading whereas you're doing the exact same thing, which is hilarious. I'll repeat what I said about your scans:

1. Only an Uchiha with the same blood can break his Tsukuyomi, which means Sasuke.
2. You need an Uchiha body to operate the Sharingan properly, let alone have an easier struggle in a Tsukuyomi.

You can continue your childish, pointless bickering, but it won't help in this debate.

So we're done here? No point in continuing if you're going to continue with this fanfic.

"You can't cast Genjutsu on someone with the same eyes"

Still tries to argue against this without providing any solid counters

 

[Romy9]

So we're done here? No point in continuing if you're going to continue with this speculation.

"You can't cast Genjutsu on someone with the same eyes"

Still tries to argue against this without providing any solid counters

There's no speculation here, just pure facts.

And yet he fell to Tsukuyomi. I don't even...

Really? At this point, you're probably trolling me because I countered your useless and fanboyish arguments with quite ease. But fun though.

 

[Aikor]

So we're done here? No point in continuing if you're going to continue with this fanfic.

"You can't cast Genjutsu on someone with the same eyes"

Still tries to argue against this without providing any solid counters

Oh really lol? then why did he cast it on kakashi?why did he cast it on sasuke??Because he can