[Discussion] Mother Caramel is Edward weeble's mother
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Looking at the flashback ends at chapter 867 confirms enough that this theory is false. Linlin unknowingly ate Carmel and the children at the birthday party. She sealed off Carmel's successful yet last deal in slavery. So ironic.
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Probably the Soul fruit doesn't necessary need to re-spawn in a nearest fruit around. Which brings us back to Teach. Did Teach eat Whitbeard's heart as some readers assumed that? Or Teach just had a normal fruit in his pocket to re-spawn?
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Speaking of BB do you think Oda already had how it happebned worked out or do you think that's something he'll figure later?
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He already knows how it happened. He wouldn't introduce such a major plot twist if he didn't think of an explanation for it.
This hypothesis has been going around ever since Caramel's picture was shown, but so far it has little ground to stand on other than that it revolves around two old ladies, which is kinda racist towards grannies if you think about it xd
Seriously though following the chronology it doesn't match up:
- Whitebeard died at the age of 72
- BM is currently 68 years old, meaning taking the time skip into account she was born only 6 years after WB.
- In the current flash-back BM is 5 years old, so WB should be 11 years old while Caramel is already an 80 years old lady.
- This flash-back occurred 63 years ago.
So counting all of that together if Caramel was alive, she should be a whooping 143 years old, which makes her almost as twice as old as WB when he died.
Yes there a few examples of women who aged quite well in the OPverse, but that shouldn't suddenly be the norm. So I find it highly questionable that Bakkin and Caramel are the same person unless there are more concrete indications other than the two just being old ladies.
Seriously though following the chronology it doesn't match up:
- Whitebeard died at the age of 72
- BM is currently 68 years old, meaning taking the time skip into account she was born only 6 years after WB.
- In the current flash-back BM is 5 years old, so WB should be 11 years old while Caramel is already an 80 years old lady.
- This flash-back occurred 63 years ago.
So counting all of that together if Caramel was alive, she should be a whooping 143 years old, which makes her almost as twice as old as WB when he died.
Yes there a few examples of women who aged quite well in the OPverse, but that shouldn't suddenly be the norm. So I find it highly questionable that Bakkin and Caramel are the same person unless there are more concrete indications other than the two just being old ladies.
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Yeah she does. On top of that. It wouldn't make sense for 60 or 70 year old granny to live 65 years later too. Bakkin is like the same age as Big mam
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I was curious because of the sheet. Maybe he knew he wanted BB to be able to take fruits but wasn't sure how he wanted the process to have to happen by the time the scene came about so he did it under the blanket to buy some time.