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So you're saying Orochimaru is stronger than Minato?



Madara already escaped. You cant reverse time otherwise half of these characters wouldnt be this strong if certain things didnt happen.

Edo Minato doesnt exist, even if he did, he would be a mere puppet controlled by Kabuto. Edo only counts if you have a free will.

But it was you who put dead people in the list along with edo madara, which is extremely stupid, whether they are sealed or not, existing or not, your list is made in a foolish way, and if you want Madara in it, don't make him edo. He would still have same jutsu, just not limited chakra U_U

Either you make a list over the currently existing shinobi, where edo madara would fit at top nr 1, or you make one with all shinob, and none are edo... The other kind of logic is extremely stupid. Where is kinkaku or ginkaku in edo then? Either of them would rape most people without any sealing pot since either will destroy most 1 vs 1 as well.....
 

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Minato 10.???? And Nagato over him... ! :) Sorry but you could have put more work to that list.! :)
 

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this list is abysmal. all author intent is ignored.
 

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3rd should definately be Hashirama and fourth should be Minato, he was owning Obito anyway so Obito can't possible rank higher after taking a rasengan to the arm and getting outsmarted. Oh and since you included rikoudo sennin you should've include his elder and younger son ranking 2nd and third. Madara also can't do infinite susano clones, it would make his concentration and fighting lack. Onoki, Kisame, and 2nd hokage shouldn't even be on the list, BEE(i don't understand how you didn't put him on the list), Kakashi and Deidera Many of the places are flawed :/
 

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Agreed with Most but the Uchiha brothers should be Low Kage Level with Muu above them.

Also Itachi should be above Sasuke U_U
 

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Agreed with Most but the Uchiha brothers should be Low Kage Level with Muu above them.

Also Itachi should be above Sasuke U_U
I think you understaminate these guys. If Uchiha bros are low Kage level, then who was Orichimaru? Elite Jounin?
 

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I think you understaminate these guys. If Uchiha bros are low Kage level, then who was Orichimaru? Elite Jounin?

Answer me this How is Sasuke gonna beat ORochimaru [with his arms + Edo Hashirama + Edo Tobirama]
 

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The list was good. Somethings I disagree with like edo Madara being top but not including any other character as an edo and Kabuto not being top when he has edo Madara under control, depends what time frame you chose your characters but I always take it from their most powerful position, also the only reason Madara broke out of edo tensei was becuase of Itachi giving all edo's free will before being released if Kabuto wanted he could have made Madara have no free will.

so you're saying Kabuto controlled every action that Madara procuded till that point? Seems legit -.- Also why should I include puppets who have no free will?

But it was you who put dead people in the list along with edo madara, which is extremely stupid, whether they are sealed or not, existing or not, your list is made in a foolish way, and if you want Madara in it, don't make him edo. He would still have same jutsu, just not limited chakra U_U

Either you make a list over the currently existing shinobi, where edo madara would fit at top nr 1, or you make one with all shinob, and none are edo... The other kind of logic is extremely stupid. Where is kinkaku or ginkaku in edo then? Either of them would rape most people without any sealing pot since either will destroy most 1 vs 1 as well.....

Can Gin brothers release Edo Tensei??? Once again dont compare Madara to puppets.
 

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Answer me this How is Sasuke gonna beat ORochimaru [with his arms + Edo Hashirama + Edo Tobirama]

1. Edo Tensei requires earlier preparations, and Oro, unlike Kabuto, wasnt walking around with sealed dead bodies.
2. As for Oro himself - Genjutsu to paralyze him + Amaterasu to finish him off.

Orochimaru only once tried to fight Itachi, and was wise enough to never try that again, even though he wanted Sharingan so badly. I think it proves enough.
 

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so you're saying Kabuto controlled every action that Madara procuded till that point? Seems legit -.- Also why should I include puppets who have no free will?



Can Gin brothers release Edo Tensei??? Once again dont compare Madara to puppets.

No I wasn't saying that, I was saying Kabuto could have controlled Madara but chose to give him free will. The other edo's had free will as well, so you should either include them all or none of them not just pick and chose if you want to be fair.

Madara was just like every other edo up until the point where Itachi released them and as Madara new the seals he remained. He could not release himself at any given time unless Kabuto gave him 100% free will, which he didn't as the edo's couldn't attack one another.
 

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1. Edo Tensei requires earlier preparations, and Oro, unlike Kabuto, wasnt walking around with sealed dead bodies.
2. As for Oro himself - Genjutsu to paralyze him + Amaterasu to finish him off.

Orochimaru only once tried to fight Itachi, and was wise enough to never try that again, even though he wanted Sharingan so badly. I think it proves enough.

I didn't ask the requirements/preparations of the ET.

Let Me Rephrase -

How will Sasuke beat the Orochimaru who faced Sandaime Hokage??
 

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No I wasn't saying that, I was saying Kabuto could have controlled Madara but chose to give him free will. The other edo's had free will as well, so you should either include them all or none of them not just pick and chose if you want to be fair.

Madara was just like every other edo up until the point where Itachi released them and as Madara new the seals he remained. He could not release himself at any given time unless Kabuto gave him 100% free will, which he didn't as the edo's couldn't attack one another.

Well, it sure did turn out like this. We cant reverse time like I said earlier. Madara is the only one who released from Edo Tensei and deserves to be on this list.
 

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I didn't ask the requirements/preparations of the ET.

Let Me Rephrase -

How will Sasuke beat the Orochimaru who faced Sandaime Hokage??
As for Oro himself - Genjutsu to paralyze him + Amaterasu to finish him off.
I already explained that.
 

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Well, it sure did turn out like this. We cant reverse time like I said earlier. Madara is the only one who released from Edo Tensei and deserves to be on this list.

What about Itachi who also broke out? Not that I care for Itachi but you're giving Madara perks that you're denying others. Also Madara can't beat Kabuto with his remaining 38 or so other edo tensei.
 

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What about Itachi who also broke out?

Itachi never had free will, after he broke out Ka forced him to save Konoha. It was pure coincidence what happened.
 

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Itachi never had free will, after he broke out Ka forced him to save Konoha. It was pure coincidence what happened.

Again Kabuto is the one who gives or doesn't give free will. It was also coincidence that Itachi defeated Kabuto giving Madara an opportunity to use the seals to break out of edo tensei.
 

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Again Kabuto is the one who gives or doesn't give free will. It was also coincidence that Itachi defeated Kabuto giving Madara an opportunity to use the seals to break out of edo tensei.

Giving an opportunity to release himself? Do you honestly believe what you're saying? I will ask you again. Do you believe Kabuto controlled every action till Madara released himself?
 

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Giving an opportunity to release himself? Do you honestly believe what you're saying? I will ask you again. Do you believe Kabuto controlled every action till Madara released himself?

I haven't even said he controlled every action of Madara, but he can restrict them. Just like how the other kage edo's have free will to an extent t , I doubt Kabuto would let Madara be able to free himself.
 

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I haven't even said he controlled every action of Madara, but he can restrict them. Just like how the other kage edo's have free will to an extent they're not allowed to attack each other, I doubt Kabuto would let Madara be able to free himself.

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Kabuto said it himself it was better if he let Madara fight without restriction, giving him free will was one of them. Madara could use ANY technique he wanted. Rinnegan, EMS, wood and more. Madara even asked the Kages which ability they prefered, meaning he was in control of every action. Accept it hater. Madara shits on your favorite.
 
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