most hyped moment that turned out a dissapoinment

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No he didn't

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Post the scan where he tells Kakashi, "it's because you let Rin die" or when he's lying on the ground defeated crying about Rin or when he's about to die saying he's going to see Rin
 

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Post the scan where he tells Kakashi, "it's because you let Rin die" or when he's lying on the ground defeated crying about Rin or when he's about to die saying he's going to see Rin

He said he survived because Kakashi let Rin die and his reminiscence of Rin is because, like he said "she was the only light in my life" nowhere did he say he started the war for Rin.
 

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Oh the Juubi takes this. So much hype and it was nothing special and was dominated the whole time.
 

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He said he survived because Kakashi let Rin die and his reminiscence of Rin is because, like he said "she was the only light in my life" nowhere did he say he started the war for Rin.

Lol, Obito fanboys:


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Definitely the Jubi for me .

yes well here's my list lol

1. MADARA GETTING BETRAYED BY BLACK ZETSU

okay sure, if this was gonna happen then so be it. BUT it should of happened AFTER naruto and sasuke defeated Madara...

2. Obito not using susano'o in battle

I know kakashi gets obito's susano'o later on plus the scar on it but seeing the origianl owner use it would of been awesome

3. Kaguya


she should of had more time as a character if it meant becoming better but that black zetsu interfered iin her development i feel
 

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Lol, Obito fanboys:


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If he's doing this solely for his own happiness then he could've just live in his own dreamworld via the Mazo (ch. 606) But no, he much like Madara sees the reality of the world as the true reason why Project Tsukuyomi was started which eventually lead to the war.

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If he's doing this solely for his own happiness then he could've just live in his own dreamworld via the Mazo (ch. 606) But no, he much like Madara sees the reality of the world as the true reason why Project Tsukuyomi was started which eventually lead to the war.

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That's not what we were talking about. I said he started the war over Rin, you said he didn't, I provided you the proof. Stop embarrassing yourself Lol.
 

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Nagato & Itachi vs Bee & Naruto tbh
Had great potential.
 

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That's not what we were talking about. I said he started the war over Rin, you said he didn't, I provided you the proof. Stop embarrassing yourself Lol.

He never said he started the war for Rin he said He'll create a world where she's alive the same way others will be recreated in the dream world like Kakashi away from the hellishness of reality

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So no, he didn't start for Rin's sake per se but for the world.
 

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He never said he started the war for Rin he said He'll create a world where she's alive the same way others will be recreated in the dream world like Kakashi away from the hellishness of reality

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So no, he didn't start for Rin's sake per se but for the world.

Answer me something - if Rin hadn't died would he have wanted to create this happy dream world?
 

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Answer me something - if Rin hadn't died would he have wanted to create this happy dream world?

That is the fallacy of the erroneous approximation of consequences, you could ask the same thing with Madara would he have done all of this if Izuna lived? ultimately the answer lies not on the particular but on the universalization of the ideology.
 

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Juubi Madara, no question. Stronger than Obito, who was curbstomping everyone, and still used as a punching bag against everyone he ever fought, bar Minato.
 

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That is the fallacy of the erroneous approximation of consequences, you could ask the same thing with Madara would he have done all of this if Izuna lived? ultimately the answer lies not on the particular but on the universalization of the ideology.

Madara lost hope after reading the tablet. Not because Izuna died.
 

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Madara lost hope after reading the tablet. Not because Izuna died.
But would Madara have read it if Izuna did not die? either way the answer is irrelevant, the point I was trying to make is that it's not a question of "what if?" It is a question of "what is" according to the definition of the "is" that both Madara and Obito share and that is the inherent flaw in the Shinobi system and the hellishness of reality.
 
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