most annoying biased opinions

[Niwdog]

When i say biased opinion, i mean crappy opinions that favour the bases's popular and loved characters, now where do i begin hmmmmm

FTG- tskuouomi maybe, but ftg -_-, ftg cannot oneshot all, infarct it only works on fodders, any ninja of jonin level and above could defeat minato with pure strategic thinking, at the end of the day, minato would have to run, as usual.

Jiraya sm vs naruto sm- naruto perfected sm yaaaah, 'big whop', the only perks that comes with that is jumping higher, and not looking like a frog, and yeah, activating faster, all that aside naruto's sm to me feels like premature ejaculation, he rushes in all exited and is done so soon, leaving his oponenet unsatisfied, now on the other hand, jiraya looks like a toad, sure, it takes time to activate 'damn straight', but allowing jiraya enter sm, be sure you'l get the ass whooping of a life time, and be sure of an entertaining match, plus all that prep time comes with the fact that he summons ma and pa, and they use a sound based illusion, trust me, its hard to block your ears while making the lala sound and fighting sm jiraya @ the same time.

Kabuto's edo army- you guys seem to forget that kabuto much like obito prepared for a war, sure he has dead people's skills, but how do you think kabuto would fair, if he had an impromptu match, this time instead of him been on the offennsive, he's on the defensive, do you think he can kill someone, do the edo ritual, and strategize and attack before sasuke's chidori pole hits him or before a rasen shiruken tears him apart? With that been said kabuto would always be oro's bitch.

and finally, sasuke sama- sasuke has been saved so many times by uncle madara, true true, but naruto has been saved more times that he has actually been involved in a fight, infarct sasuke had an oportunity to kill him @ the death valley, but walked away, and if you thought that was bad, watch closely naruto's battles before he learnt bm, long and short of that situation is, when the chips are down, get angry and get the kyuubi, when the kyuubi couln't save him anymore, well there's always kakashi, gai, sakura, chiyo, gaara, K11, random fodders, hokage, killerbee, and even his oponents, so yes sasuke has been saved a few times, but its nothing compared to the amount of times naruto has been saved.

They hypocrisy is you're JUST as biased. You've thrown a lot of facts out of the window to make these arguments. Like, if Minato could be beaten by any Jounin, why would there be a "Run-on-sight" order for him? If Minato could be beaten by any Jounin, why didn't the Raikage AND Bee together manage to defeat him, huh? If Minato could be beaten by any Jounin, WHY oh WHY would he have been elected Hokage? If he could be beaten by any Jounin, why would he so easily be able to deal with the Kyuubi whilst most of Konoha's Ninjas (which includes a lot of Jounins) struggled to even keep it at bay. Please make a better argument.

The funny thing is that I actually agree with the main premises of your points: Minato cannot just one shot anyone with FTG, Kabuto did have prep time to get those Edos, Naruto has his ass saved a lot especially by Kyuubi, Jiraiya SM is a superior shinobi to Naruto SM; but your bias makes you take the arguments to an irrational extreme like I pointed out with the Minato comment. It's like you forgot all the other facts and aspects from the manga about the characters you're discussing, like the battle feats of Minato that were actually witnessed in the manga that clearly demonstrate that not just any Jounin could defeat him, like the fact that Kabuto did not only just have Edos - he also had Dragon Sage Mode and that regardless of what Edos he had, he still had Oro's cells in him and Edo Tensei. Oro himself wasn't born with all the power that he had; he acquired it over time, just like how Kabuto did, so it's somewhat ridiculous to say that Kabuto is Oro's lesser just because he had prep time. Oro had 50 yrs of prep time.

In addition, all your points seem to be fuelled by an anti position of each character, so whilst those that wank off the characters you criticised give them too much credit, you practically hate them and give them too much credit. Take on board more manga facts into context, like you did moreso when you gave the SM Jiraiya/SM Naruto argument.

 

[~Sovereign~]

A man who was almost 30, wasn't in his prime? From biological perspective, he was PAST his prime.

minato was still creating jutsus before he died...so how was he in his prime???

 

[natssuu]

SM Naruto has also the sensing ability unlike SM Jiraiya.

 

[startup97]

Hashirama is the strongest hokage is probably the most annoying opinion to me.

Agreed!

 

[zinescience]

To me the most annoying oppinions are any oppinion involving; Plot no jutsu, misstating facts, and the blantant ignorance past accurances in the story.

same for me.

 

[cptenn94]

1 ftg doesnt one shot....there really arent any one shot jutsus for advanced ninja, as they are skilled enough to dodge or stop the jutsu

2 Does naruto sm vs jman sm really matter? there have been few threads about it, so i not seeing what you are getting wroked up about over it....naruto did master sm but he didnt have frogs due to kurama, and jman does....jman sm wins only because it is infinite, and jman has a larger arsenal.....but again nothing to get worked up about...narutos sm is better, but naruto in sm, is weaker

3 Agreed, people love to mention jutsus that take prep work like it is a instant arsenal, kirin takes time and so does edo.....

4 obvidiously you are a uchiha fanboy.....naruto has rarely been in situations of actually dieing(vs pain he was captured alive, in war, again to be captured, so he didnt need as much saving as sasuke, who was in life or death situations.....kurama power is part of narutos power...naruto would have better chakra control and more chakra if he didnt have to maintain the seal.....so it is only fair that he gets some of kuramas power, but when he goes 4 tailed and up it is no longer his power, as he is not controlling it...

simply both characters have needed, or used help....sasuke nearly died more than 3 times in a row at the kage summit, and during the bee fight.....naruto has only been mortally wounded 1 time, and that was agaisnt kabuto.....since then he has not done anything other than get passed out a few times(naruto v sasuke)

simply both characters have had help, and technically sasuke was the one who needed it the most.....nothing is wrong with getting help....



to me the most annoying thing to me are uchiha fanboys, who overate their characters , and are just annoying to try to talk with, but i think the people who cry plot no jutsu and talk no jutsu are the most annoying of all


i personally loved part one - itachi fight sasuke and thought he was baddass.....but until recently he has been a whiny piece of crap that just spams sussanoo and amarestu.....i mean he wore out his ms in less than a month....something that took itachimore than 8 years to do....


but to the maker of the thread...i agreed with you mostly till the end when you started to become super biased yourself.....