[Predictions] More Than One Man Behind The Mask

[EmperorIssun]

Now I know a lot of people are going crazy, organizing the facts we have been given regarding Tobi, and finding plot holes regarding Tobi's age and stuff. SO first let's get down to that.

We'll be using Kakashi as our reference age because we can assume that he and Obito are the same age because they were on a team together. So as of now Kakashi is 30 years old.

Tobi has done many things through out his life which include:

1. Giving Nagato his Rinnengan
2. Convincing Yahiko to form Akatsuki
3. Controlling Yagura, the Fourth MizuKage
4. Attacking Konoha and Stealing the Ninetailed-Fox
5. Aiding Itachi in the Uchiha Massacre

Whether you believe it or not Kishi has made it very obvious that it is Obito who was under the mask, however it does not explain how Obito, who is roughly 30 years old, could do all those things, especially when most of these events occurred 16 years before the start of the series, when he was 14. For example, giving Nagato the Rinnengan. Nagato was the apprentice of Jiraiya before he took on Minato as his apprentice, way before Obito became a shinobi. Also Yagura was Mizukage while Zabuza was an academy student. That is when Kirigakure was called the Village of the Bloody Mist and had the tradition of killing your fellow classmates to graduate. Zabuza and Kakashi are the same age Obito could not have been Tobi at that time. However in present time, Tobi removed his mask to show Kisame who he really was and Kisame recognized him? :/

So how is this possible? Well if you recall, Tobi once took on the identity of Madara. I think that Tobi has been several different people and Obito is the current Tobi. I think those who assume the identity of Tobi all share the ideal of The Moon's Eye Plan. Madara even mentions the Moon's Eye Plan to the Tsuchikage during their battle (Ch. 562, Page 4)

I think that Uchiha Madara was the founder of the identity of Tobi and was the very first Tobi. This explains how Tobi had the Rinnengan (which was awakened by Madara before his death). However that means that there must have been other people who acted as Tobi before Obito and after Madara. They have access to many Sharingan (Ch. 482, Page 482). This would explain how Tobi would have certain Sharingan powers at certain periods of time. To conclude think of Tobi as an ideal, not a person. He is many people who share the same vision and those people include, Madara Uchiha and Obito Uchiha. I hope this helps

 

[This is my username]

shut up and accept the truth.

 

[-Logic-]

Agreed, Tobi is an ideal. A person who has been assumed by characters behind the scenes.

 

[Armathyx]

1. No
2. No
3. Maybe
4. Yes
5. Yes

Accept the truth.

 

[Roby]

shut up and accept the truth.

Unless you can prove Obito took part in those you should shut up instead. Its not 100% sure who Tobi is and wont be untill 600's explanation U_U

Unless Obito can turn from 14 into 25+ male like he did when fought Minato... and thats not happening.

 

[~Dream~]

What -Logic- said.

 

[realobito1]

MAybe.

 

[The Sorrowful Prince]

People are forgetting, that we've seen Tobi's face on ONE PAGE.
I doubt Kishi will just leave it at "Tobi is Obito." There must be more to it.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Ok stop this, Tobi is Obito, believe it, accept it. I also dont like this, but its not the end of the world. And Obito just acted as Madara, but it was the real Madara who controlled the 4th mizukage, and Tobi just lied about giving the rinnegan to Nagato or convincing Yahiko to form akatsuki.

 

[AlexXx]

yep thats right +rep

thats why he said he is nobody. would take to long to explain naruto who he is so he seid he is nobody

tobi is like a little organization himself

 

[GLOCKER]

i think it was done by couple of people i mean someone gaved obito the mask and told hil all he knows today so it was someone with the mask there is alsaw chapter where masked man talks with itachi and he has same hair as madara so it's not only obito

 

[Zaxelzero]

I like this theory +rep

 

[Rayder]

Great theory. Don't listen to This is my Username. It's logical and plausible.
+Rep

 

[Imm0rtal bAstard]

This is quite a good explanation. Maybe connected to his change of masks?

 

[EmperorIssun]

Hey guys can you read the thread before u comment. I took my time to write so I'd appreciate the read. Thanks

 

[Roby]

Ok stop this, Tobi is Obito, believe it, accept it. I also dont like this, but its not the end of the world. And Obito just acted as Madara, but it was the real Madara who controlled the 4th mizukage, and Tobi just lied about giving the rinnegan to Nagato or convincing Yahiko to form akatsuki.

Prove me Obito in 1 year changed hes appearence from 14 to 25+ and master ms all of the sudden + learn how to control kurama (Obito was 14 when Kurama attacked Konoha and 14 years old Obito almoust beat Hokage?)

 

[Pepsilover]

Yes yes.... :y

I tried several times to assert this but only few people are able to catch the idea.

Tobi has many times pointed out that he does not care about personal identity.

Get over it people, Tobi is not one man. He is many, he is the evil "thing" lurking behind the eyes of sharingan.

 

[Bigfoot34501]

I still say it, and I've always said it, Tobi is Izuna using Obito's body

The only thing I've changed is that it seems Izuna is sharing Obito's body with him. Except for the Yagura thing, Izuna using people's bodies ever since Madara revived him with the Rinnegan would solve 4/5 points in the OP's post

 

[Pepsilover]

This is quite a good explanation. Maybe connected to his change of masks?

This is interesting idea +rep for you and a icecream :ice:

 

[thai sage]

Uh..l if I remember correctly didn't jiraya train right at the end of the 2nd ninja war. There's no proof that he wasn't already the captain of team Kakashi, rin, obito yet. They could've been just too young to participate in the war. In the most recent chapter we see obito doesn't pass the chunnin exam right away, and by the time of the 3rd oninja war Kakashi was jounin and obito was chunnin.