[Discussion] "Morality is for weak people who can't compete in this unfair world."

[Endles Waltz]

I found this quote on the internet today and it got me thinking on the mentality of people nowadays and where we are heading as "human" beings.

"Morality is for weak people who can't compete in this unfair world. It makes them feel better and stay positive."

What are your opinions on this quote? Do you agree or disagree with it?

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

That just sounds like the statement of someone with no morals...

And it seems thats the direction in which society is heading... which is not good.

Morality... is the closest thing we have to help us achieve enlightenment or evolve to our higher states. Dont knock light. Only darkness knocks light... and darkness just leads to emptiness... which it seems is where the moral fibres of society are heading....

 

[Anorien16]

Thats sounds like something Nietzsche would say ... But honestly this is a far complex topic than most normal people could stomach.

That just sounds like the statement of someone with no morals...

And it seems thats the direction in which society is heading... which is not good.

Morality... is the closest thing we have to help us achieve enlightenment or evolve to our higher states. Dont knock light. Only darkness knocks light... and darkness just leads to emptiness... which it seems is where the moral fibres of society are heading....

Oh ... can you tell me of a time the world was a Utopia or at least better than this current age?

 

[PlatinumTitan]

I found this quote on the internet today and it got me thinking on the mentality of people nowadays and where we are heading as "human" beings.

"Morality is for weak people who can't compete in this unfair world. It makes them feel better and stay positive."

What are your opinions on this quote? Do you agree or disagree with it?

Obviously, I disagree. I dont' feel society is heading this way either. There will always be some form of morals. The person who said this must have been a psychopath, someone incapable of feeling remorse.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Thats sounds like something Nietzsche would say ... But honestly this is a far complex topic than most normal people could stomach.




Oh ... can you tell me of a time the world was a Utopia or at least better than this current age?

Society has never lived in a Utopia. If anything it has always been corrupt.

People (as well as the governments) make up society. Often the governments are corrupt and the people follow suit as they work with what is presented to them.

Morals should come from within. From within they then affect the things directly atound you - and that is the most an individual can do.

 

[Anorien16]

Society has never lived in a Utopia. If anything it has always been corrupt.

People (as well as the governments) make up society. Often the governments are corrupt and the people follow suit as they work with what is presented to them.

Morals should come from within. From within they then affect the things directly atound you - and that is the most an individual can do.

What you say is something similar to the idea of 'ethics' ... Morality is a totally different concept and conveys a different meaning: For example it was immoral for people in the past (still is for some) to dissect a corpse.

 

[PlatinumTitan]

What you say is something similar to the idea of 'ethics' ... Morality is a totally different concept and conveys a different meaning: For example it was immoral for people in the past (still is for some) to dissect a corpse.

You have them backwards. It was unethical, to dissect a corpse. Ethics are a code that society goes by, and morality itself comes from within. But the morals people share, become that society's code of ethics.
Even so, what he says is similar, because ethics and morality are synonyms.

 

[SageOro]

Living beings have something called "Empathy" which leads to morals...

 

[Wabbit]

Weak people do need something to distract themselves like cosmic revenge when they are crushed by reality,things which are beyond their capacity . Idk about morality or what is morality in that sense.
When you read history invaders are described as immoral, but one could say in reality losers were weak and incapable of defending themselves which they should not have been in those 'unfair' times. More like morals are pointless in unfair world or because world is unfair.

 

[Anorien16]

You have them backwards. It was unethical, to dissect a corpse. Ethics are a code that society goes by, and morality itself comes from within. But the morals people share, become that society's code of ethics.
Even so, what he says is similar, because ethics and morality are synonyms.

Augh ... I seemingly made a mistake. I stand corrected.

 

[Transcendence]

Completely disagree. Lack of morality in any case creates psychopaths, whores and very horrible people. There needs to be some kind of guideline for one's actions. Without morality, people go around thinking they can do what they want and that in my own opinion (which is still only my opinion) is not right at all.

 

[System001]

Man this is really interesting and I imagine that it can go a lot of ways.
I guess a person who's willing to do anything and everything without remorse if given an adequate incentive would hold advantage over a man who binds himself to a set of principles and creates clear boundaries as to what he would and would not do. But then there's the point that taking advantage of such incentives could result in unwanted repercussions. Then what each person wants out of life has to be considered, some have pursuits that don't revolve around social power.
Also, not matter which way you swing it morality is beneficial, if it wasn't it would've been phased out long ago. In fact morality benefits the immoral in many ways. If you're up against someone fighting fair while you're willing to play dirty you'll have an edge, but if everyone fought dirty your edge is gone.
Also, a stronger person would have a better chance of adhering to their morals than a weaker person. If you're weak you're likely to go against what you believe is right because it's necessary, or because you believe it's necessary. Out of self-preservation you're not going to want to take chances, or you'll simply be influenced by those more powerful and do things that go against your beliefs in your vie for power. On the other hand, someone at the very top that's secure in their position has less to be fearful of and because of that can take the liberty of adhering to their principles.

At the end of the day whatever floats your boat. If reaping the rewards of immorality (Or amorality if you've convinced yourself that what you're doing isn't wrong on some level) then power to you.
Similarly if you choose to live your life by some moral code, then good for you too.
Though at the end of the day someone who manages to stick to their moral code is probably going to gain more of my respect than someone who chooses to live by none.
But on the flip side, I'd rather have someone who chooses to live by no moral code as an acquaintance than someone who pretends to champion morality yet constantly violates it.

This reminds me of the saying 'Mercy is for the weak', which I kind of disagree with.
If I'm weak I'm going to crush my opposition if given the opportunity because it's better to remove a threat now while I have the chance than to let it go and potentially allow it to grow into an even stronger force. That, and destroying my competition makes a statement, a statement that can help to deter future challenges and keep others in line.
If I'm strong and secure in my position then I have nothing to fear. Let it grow, let if fester, if it comes back I'll crush it then. Statements? No need, I'm strong, I have no need to prove it, my stature speaks for itself, I don't need showmanship, nor do I need airs of power to be strong.

But I guess you could argue otherwise. Such as without having done the prior a few times it's unlikely you'll end up in a position where you can comfortably adhere to the latter.

 

[Yubel]

I found this quote on the internet today and it got me thinking on the mentality of people nowadays and where we are heading as "human" beings.

"Morality is for weak people who can't compete in this unfair world. It makes them feel better and stay positive."

What are your opinions on this quote? Do you agree or disagree with it?

Objectively speaking, being moral is smarter in the long run because it makes you feel better. It also allows you to feel like you're better than others by taking the moral high ground and judging them. You can control and even enslave people with morals by guilt tripping them so it's a highly strategic tool to use.

 

[YowYan]

The opposite of love is not hatred but indifference, right? So, some individuals draw strength from upholding that mentality. Power is everything in this world.

 

[V h o]

What was the quote talking about, like its topic? Would wonder what they would do in this "unfair world" without morals? Would they follow laws even? Zzz

 

[Endles Waltz]

That just sounds like the statement of someone with no morals...

And it seems thats the direction in which society is heading... which is not good.

Morality... is the closest thing we have to help us achieve enlightenment or evolve to our higher states. Dont knock light. Only darkness knocks light... and darkness just leads to emptiness... which it seems is where the moral fibres of society are heading....

Obviously, I disagree. I dont' feel society is heading this way either. There will always be some form of morals. The person who said this must have been a psychopath, someone incapable of feeling remorse.

Completely disagree. Lack of morality in any case creates psychopaths, whores and very horrible people. There needs to be some kind of guideline for one's actions. Without morality, people go around thinking they can do what they want and that in my own opinion (which is still only my opinion) is not right at all.

It's good to see some people with a healthy state of mind.

Morality is what distinguishes us as humans, it is synonymous with humanity. Disregarding morals makes us far worse than animals, whom have no morals but still act on their instinct which only tells them to survive, causing no further harm to anyone or anything.

A few months ago I got in a heated discussion with one of the professors in University. She believed that there is no "right or wrong", she believed in complete "freedom of action" no matter how horrid it is. As long as the doer is prepared to deal with the consequences in what ever way, he/she is free to do whatever they want and shouldn't be judged by anyone.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing, surely this is a mentality that breeds psychopaths and murderers and is reason for many of the world's disorder and yet there I was speaking to a free "intelligent" professor who deals with many students at an esteemed University, needing to defend against this idea. The discussion continued for longer than necessary and this was one of the examples brought up. I asked her if a robber broke into her house, took many of her belongings and killed her husband before fleeing, would he not be wrong for doing so? She said she would call the police, but if the culprit manages to get away with it then it's fine, she would not hold any resentment, and he wouldn't be wrong for doing so because 'who knows what he's been through and this world is all about "survival" and "caring for one's own regard"'.

It is pretty disgusting, but unfortunately more people are adopting this mentality due to propaganda in it's many forms. It is a fallacious way of justifying crime or any inhumane act.

What was the quote talking about, like its topic? Would wonder what they would do in this "unfair world" without morals? Would they follow laws even? Zzz

About life, it's a general quote, the "unfair world" the person is referring to is the world we live in today.

Yesterday two innocent journalists were shot and killed by a man without morals. Apply the quote and the answer to my question should be straightforward.

 

[V h o]

It's good to see some people with a healthy state of mind.

Morality is what distinguishes us as humans, it is synonymous with humanity. Disregarding morals makes us far worse than animals, whom have no morals but still act on their instinct which only tells them to survive, causing no further harm to anyone or anything.

A few months ago I got in a heated discussion with one of the professors in University. She believed that there is no "right or wrong", she believed in complete "freedom of action" no matter how horrid it is. As long as the doer is prepared to deal with the consequences in what ever way, he/she is free to do whatever they want and shouldn't be judged by anyone.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing, surely this is a mentality that breeds psychopaths and murderers and is reason for many of the world's disorder and yet there I was speaking to a free "intelligent" professor who deals with many students at an esteemed University, needing to defend against this idea. The discussion continued for longer than necessary and this was one of the examples brought up. I asked her if a robber broke into her house, took many of her belongings and killed her husband before fleeing, would he not be wrong for doing so? She said she would call the police, but if the culprit manages to get away with it then it's fine, she would not hold any resentment, and he wouldn't be wrong for doing so because 'who knows what he's been through and this world is all about "survival" and "caring for one's own regard"'.

It is pretty disgusting, but unfortunately more people are adopting this mentality due to propaganda in it's many forms. It is a fallacious way of justifying crime or any inhumane act.



About life, it's a general quote, the "unfair world" the person is referring to is the world we live in today.

Yesterday two innocent journalists were shot and killed by a man without morals. Apply the quote and the answer to my question should be straightforward.

Ah I see, thought it could be referring to war. Forgot to say I disagreed in first post. Slightly off topic, funny your professor believes there is no right or wrong yet believes an action has consequences.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

"Morality is not for weak people who can't compete in this unfair world in fair way because It won't make them feel better and stay positive."

Fixed though last part doesn't go with it .

 

[7PointOh]

Whoever said that sounds like they are trying to justify what they've done, are doing, or going do. IMO, if you have to say it, whether it be out loud or to yourself, then the person saying it is trying to make themselves feel better about what they've done, are doing, or going to do.

 

[MangaArtist007]

Sounds like something a tyrant would say before massacring loads of their own people