HashiraMadara SenjUchiha
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Roger couldn't beat Garp??? roger was figthing defensively against Garp and never wanted any of them dead
[Discussion] Monkey D. Dragon's level where do you put(and these following guys)
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It has never been stated Roger and Garp actually had on par battles. All what was stated is they almost killed each other multiple times or Garp cornered Roger multiple times(depending on the translation) and it can happen without actually fighting on par with someone individually(like how Shiki almost killed Roger with his multi-fleet ambush)
The only one stated to have actually fought on par with Roger is Whitebeard. Whitebeard even in a old and sick stated was still world strongest man infront of Garp, so let alone him in his prime. Garp had difficulties to defeat Shiki(someone weaker than Roger) despite fighting alongside Sengoku. Garp never received the kind of hype that put him on par with Roger
I bolded Mihawk and Dragon(not Shanks) because the opening poster asked where they are rated in the One Piece World, nothing more. And no, Issho can't fight on par with Shanks. He can push him to around high-very high difficulty or so, but would lose in the end
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HashiraMadara SenjUchiha
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You think a guy like garp who edward newgate was named the strongest man in the world since Gold D. Roger in front of him had any chance against Gold D. Rogers!! I mean the whole serioes uses Gold Roger as a power measure
Agreed, Garp has cornered Roger many times. However, it should be obvious that they will have to fight after being cornered. I cannot say that Garp is as good as Roger, but a difference of 4 is huge. In fact, you have already agreed to that. Hence, *peace*
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I've always thought of it like this that someone could be Yonko level only because of the heightened power levels of all the crew members but there are many individuals who are clearly stronger than a Yonko...
I personally don't see Monkey D. Dragon actually stronger than any of the Admiral trio pre-TS...
But Mihawk being a powerhouse in strictly specific combat, is stronger than the likes of current Shanks or Rayleigh...
But IMO he'd lose to any of the Admiral trio because they all had mass destructive capabilities...
And that's one of the possible explanation why Garp could match one on one against Roger, Roger maybe PK or the most dangerous person on the planet but individually there're some who could go toe to toe with him...
Bonus:
I believe that in strictly one on one battle, Prime WB > Prime Roger...
But PK crew >(always) WB crew...
I personally don't see Monkey D. Dragon actually stronger than any of the Admiral trio pre-TS...
But Mihawk being a powerhouse in strictly specific combat, is stronger than the likes of current Shanks or Rayleigh...
But IMO he'd lose to any of the Admiral trio because they all had mass destructive capabilities...
And that's one of the possible explanation why Garp could match one on one against Roger, Roger maybe PK or the most dangerous person on the planet but individually there're some who could go toe to toe with him...
Bonus:
I believe that in strictly one on one battle, Prime WB > Prime Roger...
But PK crew >(always) WB crew...
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At the top right now. Unless we meet another person as hyped as him.
To lead a powerful organization = you have to be powerful.
To lead a powerful organization = you have to be powerful.
I think I should make this my sig lol, but I think it is this way,
Tier of Legends: Roger, Whitebeard, Garp, Rayleigh, Dragon, Gorosei.
Elite Tier: Yonkou, Mihawk, Marco (Post-skip), Fleet admiral Sakazuki, Kuzan, CP0
Top Tier: Admirals, Sabo.
Lower Top Tier: Doflamingo, Jinbei, Luffy, Law, Kidd
Tier of Legends: Roger, Whitebeard, Garp, Rayleigh, Dragon, Gorosei.
Elite Tier: Yonkou, Mihawk, Marco (Post-skip), Fleet admiral Sakazuki, Kuzan, CP0
Top Tier: Admirals, Sabo.
Lower Top Tier: Doflamingo, Jinbei, Luffy, Law, Kidd
Speaking about Mihawk, I have always been confused why strongest swordsman is not the strongest person in the world. We obviously have to include a weapon when deciding someone is stronger. A swordsman can cut anything with Haki and is not vulnerable to DF problems. But we know in OP, swordsmen are not the mightiest. Since, Zoro can never be more than Luffy.
I mean its a weird thing
