Momoshiki's Expansive Truthseeker Orbs

[Rikudou Tobi]

And?

You know how truth seeking orbs work do you?

Okay, then why would you ask me how a ordinary rasengan will affect a TSB?

I know how it works

 

[Loki d]

Nope. Truth Seeking Ball's are completely black. If you've seen the movie you would know that Momoshiki fought Killer Bee earlier and created a bijuu dama that looked exactly like it. That was killer bees power right there. But Momoshiki ate some pills and powered it up from when he fought killer bee.

TSB's are black. There is a difference in color. Bijuu damas are like...blackish and purple

He has no Tsb's at all. Neither does Kinshiki. They only have the tree, levitation, byakugan, and momo has the rinnegan while Kinshiki has a mysterious power to create weapons "and shockwaves"

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[Seventh Sama]

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Those are chakra rods like the one pain uses.

OT. What do you want me to answer? :lol

 

[Illuminater]

Those are chakra rods like the one pain uses.

OT. What do you want me to answer? :lol

He might be right. Proof that those are chakra rods?
And still, if you look at their color they are jet black. Bijuu damas blackish with different colors instead of being jet black like in the manga.

 

[Seventh Sama]

He might be right. Proof that those are chakra rods?
And still, if you look at their color they are jet black. Bijuu damas blackish with different colors instead of being jet black like in the manga.

He used those rods to stab naruto with, He also used one as a combat staff to fight sasuke. a TSB staff would've cut right through sasuke's sword.

I really can't tell what you're trying to imply in the second sentence. In any case, It's bijuudama. It looks purplish and it explodes. TSB doesn't explode,mane.

 

[davidou]

Okay, then why would you ask me how a ordinary rasengan will affect a TSB?

I know how it works

So you know it isn't a TSB because ninjutsu worked on it, don't you?
It's the point of the thread.

 

[Loki d]

Those are chakra rods like the one pain uses.

OT. What do you want me to answer? :lol

They were orb shaped, I can't upload images at the moment.

 

[ninjarasengan]

They were orb shaped, I can't upload images at the moment.

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[Michael]

Momoshiki was created a gudodama, people are dumb to even suggest that was a bijuu dama. In the anime gudodama also possess a purplish hue, the difference between gudodama and TBB however is that gudodama possess all elements and are created as such. Tailed Beast bombs are formed with negative/positive chakra only.

Also gudodama can explode, this was proven multiple times and is mangafact. The fact Momoshiki is otsutsuki and used all elements to form his gudodama is obvious, since when where TBB formed with elements? Momoshiki simply observed how bee managed to use TBB, he even absorbed one. Commenting humans shouldn't possess such knowledge on chakra.

 

[Seventh Sama]

^expand=/= explode

They were orb shaped, I can't upload images at the moment.

Fast shots tend to look weird when you pause them.

 

[Ambivalence]

the difference between gudodama and TBB however is that gudodama possess all elements and are created as such.

So? Having all elements has little to do with forming the TSB, or else even Pain should've technically be able to use them. It takes all 5 elements + Yin-Yang release to form them, plus they were only confirmed to be an ability granted by RSM/Ten Tails Coffin seal and the Tenseigan. Not only does Momoshiki have neither of those powers, he also does not have Yin-Yang Release as proven by his character entry from Zai no Sho. Hell, he doesn't even have Yin Release. There is no canon way for him to form a TSB.

Tailed Beast bombs are formed with negative/positive chakra only.

Which is irrelevant to anything.

Also gudodama can explode, this was proven multiple times and is mangafact.

TSB don't ''explode'', they expand, erase whatever comes into contact with them and then go back to their normal shape. What Momoshiki used clearly exploded, akin to a TBB.

since when where TBB formed with elements?

He didn't form the TBB with elements, he just made them swirl around it. If he did, those elements would've visibly combined. Not only that, he later used those elements to attack Naruto and Sasuke, so he just brought them out early. Also, since when to TSB have a purple hue and red lighting arcing around them? Even Kaguya's Expansive Gudoudama was jet-black.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

So you know it isn't a TSB because ninjutsu worked on it, don't you?
It's the point of the thread.

It's a TSB because Naruto never used a simple Odama rasengan on it just like you said.
That rasengan has senjustu chakra in it, otherwise it wouldn't work.

Even OP has a picture of him turning the orb into a six path rod.

 

[Michael]

So? Having all elements has little to do with forming the TSB, or else even Pain should've technically be able to use them. It takes all 5 elements + Yin-Yang release to form them, plus they were only confirmed to be an ability granted by RSM/Ten Tails Coffin seal and the Tenseigan. Not only does Momoshiki have neither of those powers, he also does not have Yin-Yang Release as proven by his character entry from Zai no Sho. Hell, he doesn't even have Yin Release. There is no canon way for him to form a TSB.



Which is irrelevant to anything.



TSB don't ''explode'', they expand, erase whatever comes into contact with them and then go back to their normal shape. What Momoshiki used clearly exploded, akin to a TBB.



He didn't form the TBB with elements, he just made them swirl around it. If he did, those elements would've visibly combined. Not only that, he later used those elements to attack Naruto and Sasuke, so he just brought them out early. Also, since when to TSB have a purple hue and red lighting arcing around them? Even Kaguya's Expansive Gudoudama was jet-black.

Are you dumb? Momoshiki possess the Rinnegan, by default he has all elements + yin/yang. He is also an otsutsuki, his chakra is special. Also gudodama can explode, the databook states each standard gudodama possess enough power within to obliterate a small forest. Kaguya was also going to explode her giant TSB equivalent to NV big bang and create an entirely new dimension.

You people should seriously brush up on manga/databook facts before making dumb statements/arguing.

 

[Ambivalence]

Momoshiki possess the Rinnegan, by default he has all elements + yin/yang.

Haha, sure. Go ahead and give me the manga scan/databook page where it says Rinnegan gives you Yin-Yang Release, I'll wait.

Even then, it doesn't matter - Momoshiki's databook page only said he has Yang Release, so nothing you can give me will ever prove the opposite. Then there's the fact you completely ignored that Momoshiki has no form of RSM or the Tenseigan, which, combined with the fact that he doesn't have Yin-Yang Release, makes it impossible for him to form a TSB.

He is also an otsutsuki, his chakra is special.

You yourself probably don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Being an Ootsutsuki =/= automatic TSB.

Also gudodama can explode, the databook states each standard gudodama possess enough power within to obliterate a small forest. Kaguya was also going to explode her giant TSB equivalent to NV big bang and create an entirely new dimension.

They can obliterate a forest without exploding, since there will be nothing left after the expansion anyway. How does this prove it explodes? Lmao.

''A vast expanding mass of chaos with power to reshape the world by obliterating it to nothing first". Again, nothing about the Expansive Truth Seeiking Ball that says it explodes. Does Oonoki's Jinton obliterate stuff by atomizing them? Yes. Obliteration doesn't mean explosion.

You people should seriously brush up on manga/databook facts before making dumb statements/arguing.

This guy doesn't even know how one his favorite character's abilities works, and you're telling us to ''brush up''.

 

[Michael]

Haha, sure. Go ahead and give me the manga scan/databook page where it says Rinnegan gives you Yin-Yang Release, I'll wait.

Even then, it doesn't matter - Momoshiki's databook page only said he has Yang Release, so nothing you can give me will ever prove the opposite. Then there's the fact you completely ignored that Momoshiki has no form of RSM or the Tenseigan, which, combined with the fact that he doesn't have Yin-Yang Release, makes it impossible for him to form a TSB.



You yourself probably don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Being an Ootsutsuki =/= automatic TSB.



They can obliterate a forest without exploding, since there will be nothing left after the expansion anyway. How does this prove it explodes? Lmao.

''A vast expanding mass of chaos with power to reshape the world by obliterating it to nothing first". Again, nothing about the Expansive Truth Seeiking Ball that says it explodes. Does Oonoki's Jinton obliterate stuff by atomizing them? Yes. Obliteration doesn't mean explosion.



This guy doesn't even know how one his favorite character's abilities works, and you're telling us to ''brush up''.

Gudodama can explode proven when Naruto used TBBSR. Also Rinnegan would allow one to utilize and master yin release, yang release and yin/yang release. Both RSM and Rinnegan allow use to all elements. You obviously don't know anything, I'm done here.

 

[oxtopus]

Gudodama can explode proven when Naruto used TBBSR. Also Rinnegan would allow one to utilize and master yin release, yang release and yin/yang release. Both RSM and Rinnegan allow use to all elements. You obviously don't know anything, I'm done here.

You know the rinnegan allows it's users to master only the five nature transformatons and any jutsu,i don'tsee where it grants usage of yin-yang release,yin,yang release and momoshiki creating a tsb at the exams arena is utter nonsense,momoshiki's initial rinnegan could do only three things,create chakra rods,absorb and reflect jutsus,momoshiki wasn't capable of casting any jutsu,all he did was release all the jutsu he absorbed and sent them back with greater power.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Gudodama can explode proven when Naruto used TBBSR. Also Rinnegan would allow one to utilize and master yin release, yang release and yin/yang release. Both RSM and Rinnegan allow use to all elements. You obviously don't know anything, I'm done here.

lmfao, damn you dumb as shit michael.

 

[davidou]

It's a TSB because Naruto never used a simple Odama rasengan on it just like you said.

1/I never said that, where did you see it?
2/That's the dumbest reasonning I ever saw.

That rasengan has senjustu chakra in it, otherwise it wouldn't work.

Even OP has a picture of him turning the orb into a six path rod.

There is nothing that suggests that they used senjutsu in that rasengan, in fact, Naruto didn't use sage mode to create it =D.

The OP is talking about the jutsu in his left hand, not the rods.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

1/I never said that, where did you see it?
2/That's the dumbest reasonning I ever saw.

How can a simple Oodama rasengan affect truth seeking orbs?

^^Here

There is nothing that suggests that they used senjutsu in that rasengan, in fact, Naruto didn't use sage mode to create it =D.

The OP is talking about the jutsu in his left hand, not the rods.

He didn't activate Sagemode but he can transfer natural energy like he did to that massive rasengan.

 

[davidou]

^^Here

That isn't what you said I said.=D

He didn't activate Sagemode but he can transfer natural energy like he did to that massive rasengan.

You're affirming it is a TSB based on that supposition that nothing suggests... Humans are awesome.