moment that let me know that Leaf Village was badass

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Really? Because I talk while on the internet, but I guess that could be due to the fact that I'm insane.

On this site we type, as a form of communication. You got mad because I pointed out a manga fact, well if its manga facts that upset you then you shouldn't read manga's at all then. Also getting upset so easily over something so minuscule is baffling, you will have a hard time in life just because of your uncontrollable or overuse of that emotion.
 

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Finally, I've cleared up some things now I can post to the topic.


I'm not sure there was a specific moment that occurred that made me me realize Konoha was a uber powerful village. I think it was a build up of things that I noticed over time like how many famed shinobi hail out of Konoha whereas compared to the other 4 great nations there are very few and even Konoha has more famed shinobi in history than the other 4 great nations combined.


Also Neji was skilled in part 1 arguably the most skilled, with such shinobi like Kakashi saying " I didn't know such a guy existed " or Kankuro saying " well it looks like there are two monsters but ours just has a temper ", or lee going on to say " I have on my team the most gifted shinobi to ever come out of the leaf ". But when the Shippuden series came along it shied away from those shinobi in part 1 since part 1 was just the getting to know step, and shippuden displayed more on the main and his co-star.
 
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I merely used plot to point out he is the main which means he's not ever placed in a situation that he cannot eventually win.

Also plot was just 1 of the things that aided naruto in his fight with the 6 paths, you cannot refute, the toad sages help or the 3 giant toads or hinata breaking the rods, or deva path being inactive or the kyuubi's outbreak or intel on the paths, to me that very well looks like he had more than a fair shot.


Oh, and bye sir

No no no you don't Sir me, I sir you.

No, when I here you people say plot this or plot that its a bash against the main guy, or its because you people have it in your head that this is somehow a persistent world and everyone is real and somehow Naruto is wrapped in this cloak of invulnerability. Plus it just sounds childish.

Yeah all those things did happen, its a story not a tekken game. We could ALL analyze every character with an edge ( I really think the balance is tipped in Pains direction still) and reason them out. Most victories in the manga are hardly solo. Next to none. Yet its usually reserved for the Naruto.

Its like an equation, you have to balance out both sides of the problem.
 

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On this site we type, as a form of communication. You got mad because I pointed out a manga fact, well if its manga facts that upset you then you shouldn't read manga's at all then. Also getting upset so easily over something so minuscule is baffling, you will have a hard time in life just because of your uncontrollable or overuse of that emotion.

Interesting theory but now allow me a rebuttal, I was in fact not mad as you have described me to be, but instead was just being sarcastic, even my first post was sarcasm I'm fully aware of what went on in the Manga and fully expected someone to have something to disprove my thought because everyone knew it was in factual. On the subject of life, life isn't easy no matter how much control you have over your emotions, but to tell you the truth my emotion right now is rather calm and anyone who gets upset over someone proving them wrong over the internet (which I already said I fully expected someone to prove me wrong) should not go on the internet.
 

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Are you trying to give neji some spotlight ?

He's great ninja and it's unfair to see him die like that.
Sasuke should die in his place.

Kishimoto treated neji as fodder in part2 U_U

so why should sasuke die
neji got fodderized for a crack pairing deal with it
 

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Yeah they did Neji wrong. He became Jounin before all the Konoha 11 and his stats surpassed all of theirs as well. His death was the most stupid, rushed, and forced plot twist ever. Kishi really too the cake with that one and its unfair because hes such a pro ninja.

Neji > Sasuke

still died as a fodder to save a crack pairing
 

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The day lord sasuke was born lol

It was when I learned how the village got formed
 

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No no no you don't Sir me, I sir you.

No, when I here you people say plot this or plot that its a bash against the main guy, or its because you people have it in your head that this is somehow a persistent world and everyone is real and somehow Naruto is wrapped in this cloak of invulnerability. Plus it just sounds childish.

Yeah all those things did happen, its a story not a tekken game. We could ALL analyze every character with an edge ( I really think the balance is tipped in Pains direction still) and reason them out. Most victories in the manga are hardly solo. Next to none. Yet its usually reserved for the Naruto.

Its like an equation, you have to balance out both sides of the problem.


Your sir must mean something different from the actual meaning of sir which is a sign of respect and acknowledgement of that respect so if your intending the opposite then you have the right to do so but to me its meaningless, since I can't be fazed.


I already explained why I said plot, and you are absolutely wrong if you think he does not have protection by being the main character, in every cartoon/anime/manga/comic the main character is capable of losing just like everyone else but unlike everyone else the main character has a drive that come out of nowhere even when they have been beaten and outclassed seemingly effortlessly they find a way to pull of a miracle an steal the victory. Plot is the story, the main character is part of the plot, every other character is expendable. Naruto can be beaten and has been beaten but he still has help in everything he does even when he fights technically his part 2 self hasn't won any battle single handed.

Naruto is wrapped in a clock of nigh invulnerability, he just like the other main characters are needed for the progression of the story, so why would any writer allow the prize to lose/die prematurely??? The answer is they don't at all, naruto has just recently died, but as soon as he died and we saw that chapter we all knew he was going to come back and come back even better.


But like I said I listed numerous amounts of help he had to fight against the 6 paths so with or without the acknowledgement of plot being a part of this means nothing since he still had a lot of help.



You are the first to say the pains had the advantage when they clearly did not. You forget nagato just used chakra on an entire village worth of shinobi and civilians. You forget that naruto had intel on the pains and kishi made nagato used almighty push just moments before naruto came to konoha. You forget that naruto easily defeated the other paths but when it was just him and deav he got stomped neg diff. Kishi made deva sit out for the first half to give naruto a shot, lmao he didn't give the 7 tail jin that same shot, which is my point exactly. Main > all other characters
 

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Interesting theory but now allow me a rebuttal, I was in fact not mad as you have described me to be, but instead was just being sarcastic, even my first post was sarcasm I'm fully aware of what went on in the Manga and fully expected someone to have something to disprove my thought because everyone knew it was in factual. On the subject of life, life isn't easy no matter how much control you have over your emotions, but to tell you the truth my emotion right now is rather calm and anyone who gets upset over someone proving them wrong over the internet (which I already said I fully expected someone to prove me wrong) should not go on the internet.

Not a theory its a fact. I didn't say anyone who has control over their emotions( which is impossible ) can have an easier life, I simply said someone who can't control their anger will have a hard time in life. I merely explained upon one emotion not the whole lot of them.


Also I will never know if you actually knew that you were wrong or that you expected someone to address the matter because I am not you. However, since that was your first post and it proved to hold falseness within it then one could infer that your wasn't aware that you were wrong. First impressions should be taken more seriously.
 

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Double posting for no damn reason..

OT:

This let me know that konoha was badass:

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Got invaded, still kicked ass.

And not a single spectator died.
 
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Your sir must mean something different from the actual meaning of sir which is a sign of respect and acknowledgement of that respect so if your intending the opposite then you have the right to do so but to me its meaningless, since I can't be fazed.


I already explained why I said plot, and you are absolutely wrong if you think he does not have protection by being the main character, in every cartoon/anime/manga/comic the main character is capable of losing just like everyone else but unlike everyone else the main character has a drive that come out of nowhere even when they have been beaten and outclassed seemingly effortlessly they find a way to pull of a miracle an steal the victory. Plot is the story, the main character is part of the plot, every other character is expendable. Naruto can be beaten and has been beaten but he still has help in everything he does even when he fights technically his part 2 self hasn't won any battle single handed.

Naruto is wrapped in a clock of nigh invulnerability, he just like the other main characters are needed for the progression of the story, so why would any writer allow the prize to lose/die prematurely??? The answer is they don't at all, naruto has just recently died, but as soon as he died and we saw that chapter we all knew he was going to come back and come back even better.


But like I said I listed numerous amounts of help he had to fight against the 6 paths so with or without the acknowledgement of plot being a part of this means nothing since he still had a lot of help.



You are the first to say the pains had the advantage when they clearly did not. You forget nagato just used chakra on an entire village worth of shinobi and civilians. You forget that naruto had intel on the pains and kishi made nagato used almighty push just moments before naruto came to konoha. You forget that naruto easily defeated the other paths but when it was just him and deav he got stomped neg diff. Kishi made deva sit out for the first half to give naruto a shot, lmao he didn't give the 7 tail jin that same shot, which is my point exactly. Main > all other characters

The sir bit was a gag, I see humor is wasted on you.

You are missing the point entirely which makes me wonder if you read and "hear" what people are saying or you are just scanning to find a point to lash out with. I will keep it short. Your view is bias therefore is not credible. You favor one side by explaining away while condemning the other. If you allow allotment for one side, you must for the other. Acknowledging both sides or neither is the only way to stay fair.

Its a fictional story, your use of plot is invalid (There is no discussion here to be had about it)

I suggest reading Berserk, its as gritty as it gets, perhaps a story of hope will and triumph isn't for you.
 

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What makes Konoha badass is people that are part of it. They all are as one.
 
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