[Discussion] Mob Justice prejudice needs to end...

[HashiraMadara]

Before you edited in that this happened in Africa, I already knew that's where it was. Full of halfwitted savages.

Hopefully someone comes and colonizes that shitstain of a continent once and for all.

I saw this post from Lusty Lover and I immediately brewed with sadness inside. I am disappointed that one would judge the outcome instead of the cause. With that sort of mentality we're not going forward in the world of unity.

Before colonies there were no street justices in Africa :|, ignorance is brewing from you:

Let me tell states a few things as the person who've seen it all:

Mob justice never happens in untouched villages in Africa, Asia and South. People resolve things speaking with the latter's family.

Mob Justice is something white colonies drove into their mind. non White man was lynched in front his family etc. non white man left the villages to work for white man who owned the colony in what's called "cities", There, White man had absolute rule. Whoever he felt had done wrong was punished dearly. Lots of families faced starvation because of colony had no choice but to move closer to the "cities". There, they witnessed the brutality of white man.

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That brutality still lingers to this day. All over Africa, lynching happens in "townships" which are black squatters/slums situated close to "cities". Every where in the world where white man colonised, the slums still keep his punishment traditions of "mob justice"

India: (highly graphic)

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^^ Happens Everywhere in the world where there was a white colony, and mostly in the slums/squatters situated close to what was white man territory before. I terrible hate ignorance.

Visit 100% villages in Africa, India, Asia, Brazil etc. where there never was colony you'll see true peace with no violence.

So before judging, take a walk in their shoes...

Why am saying this: Because I was born in a village, grew up in the slums and now I live in the cites: I've seen peace in the villages, I've seen people burnt alive in front of me in the slums and now I've seen flashy life of the city. I am a survivor, I went through all it enough to tell you what cause it :|

That's why I never judge, "before you judge, take a walk in their shoes first"

COLONY NEVER SOLVES ANYTHING IT ENFORCES VIOLENCE




ADD: The coloniser can be any race(not the White used here, that was an example), e.g Arabian colony, Mayan etc.

 

[Sex]

Lusty makes a gr8 point.

 

[JENchuuriki]

i don't want to see those photos :sniff: even if it's in 20th century, there will always be these kind of people... what to do?

Agree

That's why I never judge, "before you judge, take a walk in their shoes first"

 

[HashiraMadara]

Lusty makes a gr8 point.

So basically you're saying,

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[Jinrou]

'Full of halfwitted savages? Shitstain of a continent?'
I know everyone is entitled to their opinions..but I really hope this user is at most 12 years old. Nobody above that age should not know how to use their brains efficiently when forming opinions.

 

[Sex]

So basically you're saying,

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I jest... not really up-to-date with the stuff happening around the world that I find utterly useless. What could I possibly do with such shitty information? What I have to focus on is if to buy pizza or a calzone tomorrow night to share with my girl. :|

 

[Wabbit]

THis has nothing to do with colony or white ppl. Mob justice can happen anywhere where bunch of people can beat up some one and get away. It happens in the absence of proper law enforcement or you are theocratic shithole.

 

[HashiraMadara]

I don't want to see those photos :sniff: even if it's in 20th century, there will always be these kind of people... what to do?

It's an everyday life, [When you're cleaning the house you move every dirty thing to the store for visitors to see the beauty while the storeroom suffers fate not known in the lounge. What ever mess that happens in the lounge gets thrown in the storeroom], [I hire infants to build phones, you buy a cheaper one and you smile, you never know what it took to make that phone cheaper]

My fellow human beings are camping in ignorance, "INTROSPECTION" is needed.

Agree

I never judge, at all. I furiously lash at anyone deeming someone else is stupid without knowing what they've gone through or doesn't even know himself

 

[HashiraMadara]

THis has nothing to do with colony or white ppl. Mob justice can happen anywhere where bunch of people can beat up some one and get away. It happens in the absence of proper law enforcement or you are theocratic shithole.

Visit untouched places/never colonised places and you'll see: There is unique Law and it doesn't involve "Mob". Colony doesn't have to be White man, that was an example. Look at Arab colonising North African countries (violence is brewing there)

 

[Wabbit]

Visit untouched places/never colonised places and you'll see: There is unique Law and it doesn't involve "Mob". Colony doesn't have to be White man, that was an example. Look at Arab colonising North African countries (violence is brewing there)

You are saying mob justice never happens in non colonized places??

common medieval stuff around the world
>be thief
>steal some shit of priest or leader
>they find out
>he comes for you
>they tie you to a pole and beat you

>be a man from different race/religion/ethnicity
>bunch of people get angry and beat the shit out of you

All ****ed up primitive places are naturally savage. Savage behaviors are inherent not given by outsiders.

 

[HashiraMadara]

You are saying mob justice never happens in non colonized places??

common medieval stuff around the world
>be thief
>steal some shit of priest or leader
>they find out
>he comes for you
>they tie you to a pole and beat you

>be a man from different race/religion/ethnicity
>bunch of people get angry and beat the shit out of you

All ****ed up primitive places are naturally savage. Savage behaviors are inherent not given by outsiders.

I am telling you from experience here :|, There has never been a lynching, Mob beatings etc. in the villages I was born in. Only on the slums were there mobs. In the slums where I grew up, mom would even think of sending my drug addicted brothers back to the villages where they could escape such deaths :|. I am 1 in 3 sons and the only one to not become a victim of crystal meth, introduced by Chinese in the townships.

My old bother was sent to the villages and lived there for 3 years for rehabilitation, no crystal meth, no mob beatings, no fast life nothing. He came back 2013 to the townships and died within 6 months :|:|:|:|

Everywhere in the world, colonies created what you call "central places" a.k.a "cities" The most violent places in the world.

Troy
Babylon
Cairo
Rome

etc, Everywhere where a city starts, it brings in frenzy of people trying work their way up, not valuing life at all. I can say I live in the city, developed part of the city where this doesn't exit BUT there are people who are working to be here in the slums with no point of direction and privileges YOU had: I will tell you again, YOU ONLY READ THE DIFINITION OF STRUGGLE, YOU DON'T KNOW IT

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

I find it barbaric as hell.

 

[Avani]

mmmmmmmmm <snip>

With all that red I cannot take your post seriously. But you should have replied the guy in the original thread only.

You are saying mob justice never happens in non colonized places??

common medieval stuff around the world
>be thief
>steal some shit of priest or leader
>they find out
>he comes for you
>they tie you to a pole and beat you

>be a man from different race/religion/ethnicity
>bunch of people get angry and beat the shit out of you

All ****ed up primitive places are naturally savage. Savage behaviors are inherent not given by outsiders.

Even this is only partly true. Many European empires rose and fell by clever use of mob by a few people who grabbed the power in the end while letting the mob feel they did it. Even media and movies isn't above making even the stupidest and most cruel examples of mob justice as righteous at times. Most people in the mob are just tools. You may wonder what they think about themselves once they aren't art of the mob anymore nor the ones that got benefited (that would be some criminals/few leaders who used them or people who try to find out justifications of that one night stand with crimes as part of the mob). Does their conscious kick in any time sooner or later.. I can't say.

Anyway, the mob justice or herd mentality can take over in an sphere and place when some people want to vent and lash out and get enough supporters:

Take the 2011 Stanley Cup championship, for instance. The Vancouver Canucks were beaten by the Boston Bruins, and the disappointed fans wrought havoc on Vancouver. They turned over cars, lit fires, threw garbage at police, smashed glass storefronts, and looted businesses.

Some sporting spirit.... this is the kind of crowd and herd mentality that leads to lynching too. It's not really that different to ignore it in such cases. And the internet. The internet is yet another place to watch examples of similar herd mentality that leads to mob justice.

 

[HashiraMadara]

With all that red I cannot take your post seriously. But you should have replied the guy in the original thread only.



Even this is only partly true. Many European empires rose and fell by clever use of mob by a few people who grabbed the power in the end while letting the mob feel they did it. Even media and movies isn't above making even the stupidest and most cruel examples of mob justice as righteous at times. Most people in the mob are just tools. You may wonder what they think about themselves once they aren't art of the mob anymore nor the ones that got benefited (that would be some criminals/few leaders who used them or people who try to find out justifications of that one night stand with crimes as part of the mob). Does their conscious kick in any time sooner or later.. I can't say.

Anyway, the mob justice or herd mentality can take over in an sphere and place when some people want to vent and lash out and get enough supporters:

Take the 2011 Stanley Cup championship, for instance. The Vancouver Canucks were beaten by the Boston Bruins, and the disappointed fans wrought havoc on Vancouver. They turned over cars, lit fires, threw garbage at police, smashed glass storefronts, and looted businesses.

Some sporting spirit.... this is the kind of crowd and herd mentality that leads to lynching too. It's not really that different to ignore it in such cases. And the internet. The internet is yet another place to watch examples of similar herd mentality that leads to mob justice.

Colony powerhouses have punishments that scream propaganda: "crucifixion: Roman's way of saying you dare to defy us, you face this", "Lynching: Euro American's way to tell Native Americans and Blacks resistance is futile"
Here is a scenario:
Wars have been the since time immemorial but who ever won the war lived peacefully with his people <=== The very winner of the war punishes brutally other races going against him. Those races are at their worst behaviour because al they see everyday is dead bodies... The next thing is they don't value life as they use to do...

It doesn't matter how strong herd mentality is, in a place where bloodshed is super rare, that very mob will never have enough courage to take life. Where as where I grew up, I used to hear deaths of people every weekend, I remember drinking with one guy, his friend got shot dead in the eye, what I did was take my booze to the next open bar and continue to drink with no care in the world. <== You think if I grew up in the crimeless city would I have the same mentality?

*I have a car now BUT I can still run on top of a moving train like I did as a kid with my friends and do train surfing

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etc. Colony leaves behind a stamp very difficult to remove.

Head Mentality only worsens the case. Mob mentality fits in both good or bad.
WWF is a mob case it self, they close down illegal shops with endangered species etc.

 

[Wabbit]

I am telling you from experience here :|, There has never been a lynching, Mob beatings etc. in the villages I was born in. Only on the slums were there mobs. In the slums where I grew up, mom would even think of sending my drug addicted brothers back to the villages where they could escape such deaths :|. I am 1 in 3 sons and the only one to not become a victim of crystal meth, introduced by Chinese in the townships.

My old bother was sent to the villages and lived there for 3 years for rehabilitation, no crystal meth, no mob beatings, no fast life nothing. He came back 2013 to the townships and died within 6 months :|:|:|:|

Everywhere in the world, colonies created what you call "central places" a.k.a "cities" The most violent places in the world.

Troy
Babylon
Cairo
Rome

etc, Everywhere where a city starts, it brings in frenzy of people trying work their way up, not valuing life at all. I can say I live in the city, developed part of the city where this doesn't exit BUT there are people who are working to be here in the slums with no point of direction and privileges YOU had: I will tell you again, YOU ONLY READ THE DIFINITION OF STRUGGLE, YOU DON'T KNOW IT

You have got it wrong.
Simply because your village was peaceful does not apply everywhere. It is not the only sole factor.
I could argue the opposite showing south east asia where they do ****ed up shit in villages thanks to religion that mob mentality happens in villages and less in cities due to more educated ppl and law enforcement.

The last part is irrelevant. Same thing can happen in villages, it has been always happening. Now you are going SJW mode that I am privileged person?
What are you even trying to say? I will tell you know TYPING IN CAPS SOME QUOTE AND CALLING SOME ONE PRIVILEGED DOES NOT PROVE YOUR POINT AND YOU WROTE SPELLING OF DEFINITION WRONG
go to tumblr man, ppl there might here your sad story and go on with whatever you say.

 

[HashiraMadara]

You have got it wrong.
Simply because your village was peaceful does not apply everywhere. It is not the only sole factor.
I could argue the opposite showing south east asia where they do ****ed up shit in villages thanks to religion that mob mentality happens in villages and less in cities due to more educated ppl and law enforcement.

The last part is irrelevant. Same thing can happen in villages, it has been always happening. Now you are going SJW mode that I am privileged person?
What are you even trying to say? I will tell you know TYPING IN CAPS SOME QUOTE AND CALLING SOME ONE PRIVILEGED DOES NOT PROVE YOUR POINT AND YOU WROTE SPELLING OF DEFINITION WRONG
go to tumblr man, ppl there might here your sad story and go on with whatever you say.

The story was a little part to help the point but it clearly didn't. I am not in SJW mode, and I don't view my upbringing as a sad one as well :| I wouldn't trade it for anything... In fact, I doubt there is a place on earth I wouldn't survive in because of how I grew up... So my "sad" story is not sad at all to me :|

Point taken, whatever you saying is true Kudus I am out

 

[Avani]

Colony powerhouses have punishments that scream propaganda: "crucifixion: Roman's way of saying you dare to defy us, you face this", "Lynching: Euro American's way to tell Native Americans and Blacks resistance is futile"
Here is a scenario:
Wars have been the since time immemorial but who ever won the war lived peacefully with his people <=== The very winner of the war punishes brutally other races going against him. Those races are at their worst behaviour because al they see everyday is dead bodies... The next thing is they don't value life as they use to do...

It doesn't matter how strong herd mentality is, in a place where bloodshed is super rare, that very mob will never have enough courage to take life. Where as where I grew up, I used to hear deaths of people every weekend, I remember drinking with one guy, his friend got shot dead in the eye, what I did was take my booze to the next open bar and continue to drink with no care in the world. <== You think if I grew up in the crimeless city would I have the same mentality?

*I have a car now BUT I can still run on top of a moving train like I did as a kid with my friends and do train surfing

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etc. Colony leaves behind a stamp very difficult to remove.

Head Mentality only worsens the case. Mob mentality fits in both good or bad.
WWF is a mob case it self, they close down illegal shops with endangered species etc.

Well you may have a point but, I haven't really tried to study the topic so I don't know about this scenario. Although I know its accepted hypothesis that the general feeling of distrust between the (colonial) police/authority and natives does still linger on+ vigilante who think government is out to fool them and won't do justice - both add to the incidents of this category where people take law in their hand. And in most cases either get it wrong or simply over do it.

What I am sure of is that I simply dislike this whole concept of mob justice because I know people go overboard when they are angry and not thinking. Mob justice never resolves an issue but only makes it worse and often distracts instead- since focus is not the original crime/problem or action of the accused turned victim but, on the mob. On top of it, often it renders a punishment far worse that the crime. Plus I have seen to many crooks getting the benefit of stupid mob for their own benefit. So whatever the root cause, it's something societies need to deal with today and minimize it.

 

[HashiraMadara]

What I am sure of is that I simply dislike this whole concept of mob justice because I know people go overboard when they are angry and not thinking. Mob justice never resolves an issue but only makes it worse and often distracts instead- since focus is not the original crime/problem or action of the accused turned victim but, on the mob. On top of it, often it renders a punishment far worse that the crime. Plus I have seen to many crooks getting the benefit of stupid mob for their own benefit. So whatever the root cause, it's something societies need to deal with today and minimize it.

Well I never said it was right... It will never be right as well, Mob Mentality is happening in USA electoral campaigning right now. The thread was there to remove the mentality of "colony betters life of a native"... For all I know, life could be better in a fruitful and peaceful jungle than a totalised and "civilised" fake "democracy".

You have a point, Mob mentality will never be the solution, the thread is made to remove the thoughts that "colony" is a better choice when the very mob mentality was brought by the colony...


All in All: there can never be a "perfect punishment"/"justice" as "truth is a matter of perception" and there exist something called a "lie"

your justice can be hurtful to others etc, it's fated world we have to live in. Even Madara and Ultron saw its hopelessness XD
as well.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

" groups tend to be more immoral than individuals." - Martin Luther King Jr in Letters From Birmingham

Noone knows more of social injustice than the civil rights movement in the 1960's era. MLK JR not only condemned the actions of many groups like the kkk but also even offered a solution to this type of injustices. A peaceful but long lasting protest that would demand equality for all african americans. Eventually the african american community prevailed in their mission for equal status under the united states. I can only hope that the groups of these individuals that you speak of in your post would be able to gain their own respect in their communities.

Now if they were punished for something they mightve commited like a crime then perhaps a reform of their justice system should be started.

 

[LustyLover]

A whole thread made over me. I feel so blessed. Thank you my loves. I couldn't have done it without you. <3