Mitsuki needs to actually care for Sarada, She is ON YOUR TEAM

[lndra]

I haven't watched the movie either.

Dude.... Well the Anime is going to adapt the film, so I guess this doesn't matter?

I read that portion of the manga for the first time a couple days ago. During the second phase of the exam, Boruto was being overwhelmed by his opponents then used the devices to dish out water & lightning. Just as he did later with Shadow Clones against Shikamaru.

> Boruto was up against an entire team of genin ninjas who could all use the shadow clone jutsu
> Boruto lost to Shikadai (not Shikamaru), but he only used the shadow clone jutsu.

When we already knew that Boruto had elemental natures, and had a Rasengan which he didn't deem worthy. So he was capped, this is added to the fact that Boruto was walking into the Examinations with the mindset that if anything got too hard, he could save himself by opting for the tool device. So rather than just a nerf, it was the character's mindset.

If these were things he could easily use without the device then why would he use it? To conserve chakra would be a good reason, but that was never stated nor implied so it's headcanon at best.

Since you didn't watch the film, you probably don't know much about the character's mentality on the subject. But he was being bred to use the tool in every scenario - instead of opting for his natural skills. In example:

Katasuke (the scientist who was manipulating the device onto him) stated that any hardship you face, the Kote device can save you. With the combined mentality back and forth from this guy, and with Boruto wanting to impress his father who disliked Boruto's prodigal abilities - He ended up in this situation.

That's the TLDR.

We know at max he could make 3 clones, so him using the device to create more clearly shows that he relies on it to perform beyond his limits when he's in a pinch. Based on this, he couldn't perform the Water & Lightning technique as easily through his own efforts at the time.

Yeah.

Later when he's sparring with Naruto he uses both elements with ease. Based on his improvements with Shuriken Jutsu against Shojoji aswell as Rasengan against him & Naruto, it's clear that after the exams he trained offscreen to gain better usage of his arsenal, hence his Shadow Clone limit also improving to 4. Naruto eve4.specifically mentions his improvement with Rasengan came from training.

Oh no that's the confirmed for sure, Boruto/Naruto clarified that he was training in the dialogue of the fight. Boruto actually improved his clone usage during the film, however.

Furthermore, he also used the device to make it look like he mastered Rasengan to impress Sasuke.

My point exactly. Boruto was doing things that he could do on his own, but faster. Like right after the film Boruto was shown creating a full size Rasengan, despite not wanting to put the effort in himself.

In conclusion, Boruto used the device to produce what's beyond his current capabilities, yet the anime has him doing said capabilities without the device, easily, and at a younger age.

I would say that Boruto was using the device in terms of shadow clones (and possibly the water/lightning combination at that level) to produce techniques that he could not -- yet. However, it's hard to determine just where his potential was at.

I mean this kid was the first one to learn an A-Rank technique, and go beyond that unconsciously by adding wind release into his Rasengan. The entire movie was spilling the beans on his potential being there, but the character not wanting to work hard enough.

Like in his training with Sasuke.

If academy Boruto was really Chunin level as Kakashi said, then he wouldn't have needed to cheat so much during the actual Chunin exam which he undertook months after he became a Genin.

If you watched the Anime episodes, Kakashi even said that him being a Chunin level (skill wise) is the reason why he's going to fail later on. They were setting up the Movie events.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Inconsistency.

It's not.

Yeah bro I'm not interested in excuses I've given you two clear canon examples of failing then resorting to cheating. I don't need to read excuses or justification.

Concession accepted. I don't really need to hear your lies and lack of arguments, when you clearly don't understand much about the series (nor the characters involved) - Not adding to the fact of your extreme bias, which I can actually show you from later threads.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Dude.... Well the Anime is going to adapt the film, so I guess this doesn't matter?


> Boruto was up against an entire team of genin ninjas who could all use the shadow clone jutsu
> Boruto lost to Shikadai (not Shikamaru), but he only used the shadow clone jutsu.

When we already knew that Boruto had elemental natures, and had a Rasengan which he didn't deem worthy. So he was capped, this is added to the fact that Boruto was walking into the Examinations with the mindset that if anything got too hard, he could save himself by opting for the tool device. So rather than just a nerf, it was the character's mindset.



Since you didn't watch the film, you probably don't know much about the character's mentality on the subject. But he was being bred to use the tool in every scenario - instead of opting for his natural skills. In example:

Katasuke (the scientist who was manipulating the device onto him) stated that any hardship you face, the Kote device can save you. With the combined mentality back and forth from this guy, and with Boruto wanting to impress his father who disliked Boruto's prodigal abilities - He ended up in this situation.

That's the TLDR.



Yeah.


Oh no that's the confirmed for sure, Boruto/Naruto clarified that he was training in the dialogue of the fight. Boruto actually improved his clone usage during the film, however.


My point exactly. Boruto was doing things that he could do on his own, but faster. Like right after the film Boruto was shown creating a full size Rasengan, despite not wanting to put the effort in himself.



I would say that Boruto was using the device in terms of shadow clones (and possibly the water/lightning combination at that level) to produce techniques that he could not -- yet. However, it's hard to determine just where his potential was at.

I mean this kid was the first one to learn an A-Rank technique, and go beyond that unconsciously by adding wind release into his Rasengan. The entire movie was spilling the beans on his potential being there, but the character not wanting to work hard enough.

Like in his training with Sasuke.


If you watched the Anime episodes, Kakashi even said that him being a Chunin level (skill wise) is the reason why he's going to fail later on. They were setting up the Movie events.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

It's not.


Concession accepted. I don't really need to hear your lies and lack of arguments, when you clearly don't understand much about the series (nor the characters involved) - Not adding to the fact of your extreme bias, which I can actually show you from later threads.

So basically, Boruto could perform those elemental techniques to the same level power wise, although maybe it would be difficult in strenuous situations, but opted to use the device because it was easier?

He could have mastered Rasengan within a relatively short amount of time, but opted to use the device to gain Sasuke's approval even quicker?

Boruto's problem is that he could do these things on his own, but just doesn't want to put in the effort on his own, when there's an easier, quicker option? Basically his mindset was - worker smarter, not harder?

If this is the case then inorder to be consistent, the anime would have to have Boruto be like this in the academy. But as far as i know, he's just doing great things like nothing. Has he tried cheating or taking any shortcuts on things he was capable of doing on his own, just so he wouldn't have to put in any effort?

 

[lndra]

So basically, Boruto could perform those elemental techniques to the same level power wise, although maybe it would be difficult in strenuous situations, but opted to use the device because it was easier?

Not precisely. I would say that Boruto could perform them to an extent, but to what level we don't really know? It should be interesting to see how these fights break down in the Anime's adaption, since this version of Boruto is going in with one extra technique: Gale Palm. Unless he does learn Water before the film.

He could have mastered Rasengan within a relatively short amount of time, but opted to use the device to gain Sasuke's approval even quicker?

Yes, Boruto's flaw in the film is that he didn't see hard work as something important. Combined that with the fact that he takes short cuts (because it's easier) which downgrades his talent.

Right after Boruto learned his lesson, a literal day after the Momoshiki events, Boruto was seen creating a full sized Rasengan right before the Movie ended.

Boruto's problem is that he could do these things on his own, but just doesn't want to put in the effort on his own, when there's an easier, quicker option? Basically his mindset was - worker smarter, not harder?

Yes sir.

You must be registered for see images

If this is the case then inorder to be consistent, the anime would have to have Boruto be like this in the academy. But as far as i know, he's just doing great things like nothing. Has he tried cheating or taking any shortcuts on things he was capable of doing on his own, just so he wouldn't have to put in any effort?

So far Boruto has been the opposite in terms of cheating, as in physically going out of his way to do things in a bad way. However, what they kept consistent is his idea/mentality being flawed in what goes with resolve, hard work, and his beliefs.

The Movie adaption starts in April, so we have a while to go before they need to be 100% consistent anyway.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Not precisely. I would say that Boruto could perform them to an extent, but to what level we don't really know? It should be interesting to see how these fights break down in the Anime's adaption, since this version of Boruto is going in with one extra technique: Gale Palm. Unless he does learn Water before the film.


Yes, Boruto's flaw in the film is that he didn't see hard work as something important. Combined that with the fact that he takes short cuts (because it's easier) which downgrades his talent.

Right after Boruto learned his lesson, a literal day after the Momoshiki events, Boruto was seen creating a full sized Rasengan right before the Movie ended.


Yes sir.

You must be registered for see images

So far Boruto has been the opposite in terms of cheating, as in physically going out of his way to do things in a bad way. However, what they kept consistent is his idea/mentality being flawed in what goes with resolve, hard work, and his beliefs.

The Movie adaption starts in April, so we have a while to go before they need to be 100% consistent anyway.

Okay, good talk. I'll give my final judgements once i watch the anime myself.