Misunderstanding regarding Madara's rinnegan

[Arima]

When Madara fought Hashirama last time and lost, it is said that he casted izanagi and did not die - which means that Madara lost on of his EMS's to cast izanagi. But later Madara somehow awakened Rinnegan - which is awakened after EMS (simple sharingan cannot turn into rinnegan, even if you combine uchiha and senju DNA) - although Madara supposed to have only one EMS and there should either be only 1 rinnegan or no rinnegan at all. Am I missing something or it actually does not make sense?

 

[Gagster]

Wrong on all fronts, I don't even have enough time to go through how wrong this is.

 

[Gerkak]

You didn't just miss something, you missed a lot of things

First of all only combining ashura and indra's chakra awakens the rinnegan. Not senju + uchiha DNA.

Secondly,After awakening the rinnegan madara's blind eye was restored.

 

[Transcendence]

The best explanation I came up with is rather simple.

The Rin'negan is not the evolution of the Sharingan. At all. The Rin'negan awakens when Hagoromo's chakra awakens. So when Madara used Izanagi, he lost his own light, but his eyes didn't evolve. His natural chakra became Hagoromo's, which granted him the Rin'negan, irregardless of his lost light in his Eien No Mangekyou Sharingan.

 

[AlphaScythian]

All you need is sage's chakra.

As i always been saying, sharingan is separate from rinnegan, thus this whole rinnegan evolution theory of kabuto/oro was wrong.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Rinnegan is awaken after Indra and Ashura chakra is combined and gained Hagoromo chakra, not regarding the eyes whether Sharingan, Byakugan or normal eyes.

That mutation eyes is different from sharigan and byakugan in rule

 

[Arima]

Rinnegan is awaken after Indra and Ashura chakra is combined, not regarding the eyes whether Sharingan, Byakugan or normal eyes.

That mutation eyes is different from sharigan and byakugan in rule

Does that mean that if Naruto got Indra's chakra when he had Hagoromo's chakra potentially he would awaken rinnegan?

 

[Transcendence]

Does that mean that if Naruto got Indra's chakra when he had Hagoromo's chakra potentially he would awaken rinnegan?

Not potentially. He WOULD awaken the Rin'negan.

 

[Amazeballs]

Does that mean that if Naruto got Indra's chakra when he had Hagoromo's chakra potentially he would awaken rinnegan?

Yes, just like how Obito's Chakra gave Kakashi the MS while the Chakra remained in Kakashi's body. The Sharingan/Rinnegan are manifestations of Chakra. If Naruto received *enough* of Sasuke's Chakra, he would awaken the Rinnegan.

 

[Gerkak]

Does that mean that if Naruto got Indra's chakra when he had Hagoromo's chakra potentially he would awaken rinnegan?

He would without a doubt awaken it

 

[SkyGodHorus]

When Madara fought Hashirama last time and lost, it is said that he casted izanagi and did not die - which means that Madara lost on of his EMS's to cast izanagi. But later Madara somehow awakened Rinnegan - which is awakened after EMS (simple sharingan cannot turn into rinnegan, even if you combine uchiha and senju DNA) - although Madara supposed to have only one EMS and there should either be only 1 rinnegan or no rinnegan at all. Am I missing something or it actually does not make sense?

It's one of those things that are left open for interpretation. Hashirama's clone and gedo mazou may have healed the eye over time or Madara may have taken someone else's eye. Recall that Obito was able to use Kamui over and over without losing his light? Probably because his Hashirama clone kept healing him. Same thing with Danzou's cooldown of Koto Amatsukami because he too had a Hashirama clone.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Does that mean that if Naruto got Indra's chakra when he had Hagoromo's chakra potentially he would awaken rinnegan?

Yes he will awaken it, Hagoromo never stated anything other than his chakra can awaken a rinnegan, if someone suck off this chakra, the wielder will lose his rinnegan and revert back to normal condition eyes as before

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

I've been waiting on this topic.

for 1. the two rinnegan he gave away were his original eyes.

the left sharingan he had when obito was in the cave was izuna's eye, the right eye missing because he sacrificed it for izanagi.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

I've been waiting on this topic.

for 1. the two rinnegan he gave away were his original eyes.

the left sharingan he had when obito was in the cave was izuna's eye, the right eye missing because he sacrificed it for izanagi.

Yeah, uh that's not how it works lols.

1. Madara's original eyes (the ones he was born with) were going blind.
2. To stop the blindness and create the Eternal Mangekyou, one must take a loved one's mangekyou eyes and replace their own with them, thus their ocular chakras mix with their loved one's eyes that they transplanted into themselves, creating the eternal mangekyou sharingan.

In other words, the "original eyes" you speak of that became eternal mangekyou and rinnegan were Izuna's.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Yeah, uh that's not how it works lols.

1. Madara's original eyes were going blind.
2. To stop the blindness and create the Eternal Mangekyou, one must take a loved one's mangekyou eyes and replace their own with them, thus their ocular chakras mix with their loved one's eyes that they transplant into themselves, creating the eternal mangekyou sharingan.

In other words, the "original eyes" you speak of that became eternal mangekyou and rinnegan were Izuna's.

the original eyes became the rinnegan where as izuna's became the ems.

1. izuna's right eye was sealed not blind but sealed, old man madara was seen without the right one but left one while giving away his rinnegan quite odd:erm:

2. he obtained ems from izuna i know that already.

 

[VongolaX]

Ya, his MS eyes

Zetsu said Madara's original eyes awaken the rinnegan, not his transplanted brother's eyes.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

the original eyes became the rinnegan where as izuna's became the ems.

1. izuna's right eye was sealed not blind but sealed, old man madara was seen without the right one but left one while giving away his rinnegan quite odd:erm:

2. he obtained ems from izuna i know that already.

This makes absolutely no sense and there is no basis for it.

Madara's eyes were stated to have gone blind and EMS evolves into Rinnegan, not the base mangekyou. Edo Madara was also shown to have his EMS, which he changed into his Rinnegan. Stop making things crack just for the sake of it lols.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Ya, his MS eyes

Zetsu said Madara's original eyes awaken the rinnegan, not his transplanted brother's eyes.

thats what ive been saying