Missconcepiton: Kakashi > Rinnengan Obito

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Rinnengan Obito >> Kakashi...

Their cannon fight was MS obito vs Kakashi... why? Obito on the kamui dimension can't summon the Gedo Mazou, so his rinnengan was just for decoration on that fight. If they were fighting on the battlefield the fight would go like this:

- Kakashi makes a clone and sends it with kamui to the other dimension and says "now you can't use your kamui ghost mode"

- Obito says, i don't need it, and summons the Gedo Mazou.

- Kakashi tries to warp its head with kamui.

- Obito cancels it. Then proceeds to atack Kakashi with the Gedo Mazou and Kakashi wont be able to keep up, and he dies.

Anyways if this is MS Obito, kakashi wins, and don't come with Juubi sized Katon or Mokuton, the katon gets dodged by going underground and the mokuton gets countered with raiden or dodged.
 

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Agreed. Kamui is wanked way too hard on kakashis part
 

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i like kakashi but obito losing to kakashi was complete bullshit and it made it seem like obito learned nothing and will always be second place which isn't a good moral imo.
 

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Kakashi << Rinnegan Obito

Only form he can beat is Akatsuki MS Obito.
 

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MS Obito? Nah man Kakashi and Obito both practically fought with the ordinary Sharingan, They had the eye but its basically worthless in the dimension.
 

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I suppose Kakashi can beat MS Obito since he doesn't have the same tools/weapons (Gunbai) as Rinnegan Obito who also possesses the Gedo Mazo.
 

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i like kakashi but obito losing to kakashi was complete bullshit and it made it seem like obito learned nothing and will always be second place which isn't a good moral imo.

Obito learned to rely on hax uchiha techs(just like every other uchiha) and forget about fundamentals.

Kakashi learned that the fundamentals are important.
 

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Obito learned to rely on hax uchiha techs(just like every other uchiha) and forget about fundamentals.

Kakashi learned that the fundamentals are important.
That would make sense if sasuke(somewhat), itachi and madara weren't the best at the fundamentals. Especially for their time.
 

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They barely even fought though, it was an exposition and dialogue fight. The one big hit relied only on where the plot was going.

I don't even count it as a fight tbh.
 

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Obito had the Rinnegan but I never saw him being utmost proficient with it like Madara or Nagato...

Kamui was never a factor in their fight since both are anti-each_other...
Kakashi knows the techs and counters of Rinnegan...
Kakashi also knew of Gedo statue, he isn't dumb enough to let Obito maintain a distance so he can summon it...

So, it all in the end came down to basic skills where Kakashi was always better than him...


Don't complain about each and every battle in which your fav. loses...
 

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That would make sense if sasuke(somewhat), itachi and madara weren't the best at the fundamentals. Especially for their time.


Nope, all of'em were exceptional in fundamentals...

Itachi: The best at basics in his time at the academy...
Sasuke: Tied with Ino and rivaled Sakura's basics...
Madara: He also displayed some exquisite part of his basic skills...
 

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i like kakashi but obito losing to kakashi was complete bullshit and it made it seem like obito learned nothing and will always be second place which isn't a good moral imo.


Technically, Obito never improved... He was just stuffed with mount-load of jutsus from Madara...
 

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Dont make me laugh. MS obito >> any kakashi.
 

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Dont make me laugh. MS obito >> any kakashi.

Exactly, MS Obito summoned Gedo to extract the bijuu from the Hachibi (tentacle clone).

He didn't have the rinnegan either...

He can also summon kyuubi

Because he has both uchiha and senju blood/power, he can use Inyouton and the six path techniques.

Ms Obito beat the perfect jinchuuriki mizukage too.

Ms Obito would murder stomp Kakashi

He only got the rinnegan, so he can control 7 bijuus at the same time.
 

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Exactly, MS Obito summoned Gedo to extract the bijuu from the Hachibi (tentacle clone).

He didn't have the rinnegan either...

He can also summon kyuubi

Because he has both uchiha and senju blood/power, he can use Inyouton and the six path techniques.

Ms Obito beat the perfect jinchuuriki mizukage too.

Ms Obito would murder stomp Kakashi

He only got the rinnegan, so he can control 7 bijuus at the same time.

He waited to have the rinnengan to summon the gedo mazo, he can't summon it without it.

To use onyuouton and the 6 paths techniques he also needs rinnengan.

Kakashi beats MS Obito, he sends a clone to the other dimension and then the fight would go on like it was in the manga. Obito wihtout kamui or Rinnengan is not big deal.
 

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Exactly, MS Obito summoned Gedo to extract the bijuu from the Hachibi (tentacle clone).

He didn't have the rinnegan either...

He can also summon kyuubi

Because he has both uchiha and senju blood/power, he can use Inyouton and the six path techniques.

Ms Obito beat the perfect jinchuuriki mizukage too.

Ms Obito would murder stomp Kakashi

He only got the rinnegan, so he can control 7 bijuus at the same time.

He waited to have the rinnengan to summon the gedo mazo, he can't summon it without it.

To use onyuouton and the 6 paths techniques he also needs rinnengan.

Kakashi beats MS Obito, he sends a clone to the other dimension and then the fight would go on like it was in the manga. Obito wihtout kamui or Rinnengan is not big deal.
 

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this happened. kakashi got slashed in the chest and stabbed in the leg casually
Obito learned to rely on hax uchiha techs(just like every other uchiha) and forget about fundamentals.

false. obito is pretty much a perfect fighter. intelligence, tactics, ninjutsu and genjutsu are all top notch. kakashi spams the same two jutsus constantly.
Obito wihtout kamui or Rinnengan is not big deal.
obviously as you took away 99% of his abilities

Kamui was never a factor in their fight s
obitos kamui negates kakashi's, thats why
 
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