Misconception: Uzumaki are born for jinchurikis

[KingHashirama]

This whole myth about Uzumaki being born to be jinchuriki, and all of them having special chakras to be jinchurikis, is a slight misunderstanding. Though people started to accept it as a fact. However, upon the examination of the anime and the manga, it clear that not all uzumaki are born to be 9-tails jinchuriki.

Its not only in Konoha, even in other villages, people needed to have the right kind of chakra to become the jinchuriki (Gaara for example).

1. The manga scan that is the basis of this misconception:

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Notice in the manga she only talks about her having special chakra not all the Uzumaki. There is a big difference (in the manga its said among the uzumaki she had special chakra). Its similar to how Madara had special chakra among the Uchiha.

Furthermore before that scan she also talks about her having special chakra, not the uzumaki clan:

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2. Mito an Uzumaki becoming the first 9-tails jinchuriki.

- People should know that she was a very powerful female shinobi of that time. She wasn't a random uzumaki fodder.

- She wasn't selected to be the jinchuriki, she CHOSE to be the jinchuriki to help out her husband. Meaning she was already Hashirama's wife before the 9-tail and Madara event happened. And those who will try to still argue that he probably married her cause of that or w.e. No. Hashirama never planned on sealing Kurama away, before Madara attacked.

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Conclusion points​

- Senju/Uchiha/other clan members weren't picked to be the jinchuriki because they didn't have any special chakra.

- So no, not all uzumaki are meant to be the 9-tails jinchuriki.

- Meaning Nagato and Karin aren't the same as Kushina, and have weaker chakra than her.

- Mito and Kushina were very powerful among the Uzumaki.
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[Sir Blades]

And what is the Hyuga's role Oh almighty debater of the universe?

 

[KingHashirama]

And what is the Hyuga's role Oh almighty debater of the universe?

Konoha's strongest clan? .

 

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there is nothing called a fodder uzumaki, all uzumaki have something special including weakest karin( incredible sensory powers , blood that heals)

 

[AlphaScythian]

Pfff. Uchiha/senju are well suited for juubi jins thou.

Now i wonder when both hashi and minato were banging their respective wifes, what were kurama's feels??? XD
"hey naruto i watched you being conceived" :leaf:

 

[KingHashirama]

there is nothing called a fodder uzumaki, all uzumaki have something special including weakest karin( incredible sensory powers , blood that heals)

There is nothing called a fodder Uchiha, since all have powerful chakra. There is nothing called a fodder Nara clan, since all can use shadow jutsu. Am i right?

Show me the scan of all Uzumaki having special chakra, i'll believe you. Otherwise you clearly don't like accepting things that go against your opinion.

Nagato = Normal uzumaki chakra. <<< Never once was he stated to have special chakra.

Mito/Karin/Kushina , are all exceptions. Karin's chakra is the only uzumaki chakra that can heal you. Mito and Kushina have special chakra meant for a Jinchuriki.

And yes there are Uzumaki fodders, otherwise they'd be up there with Senju and Uchiha.

 

[AlphaScythian]

^most of those that showed their faces in manga more then twice arent fodders so...

 

[KingHashirama]

^most of those that showed their faces in manga more then twice arent fodders so...

Karin = fodder, when it comes to fighting. Tenten > Karin.... yea that is pretty fodder actually. All shinobi in the war that are unnamed and called fodder can fight better than Karin, but you guys call them fodder, so what do i call her?

Also, by "fodder Uzumaki" that is a reference to weak Uzumaki. By your logic, there are no fodders. And if so, people shouldn't use the word. Though i'm sure you yourself have used it.

 

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There is nothing called a fodder Uchiha, since all have powerful chakra. There is nothing called a fodder Nara clan, since all can use shadow jutsu. Am i right?

Show me the scan of all Uzumaki having special chakra, i'll believe you. Otherwise you clearly don't like accepting things that go against your opinion.

Nagato = Normal uzumaki chakra. <<< Never once was he stated to have special chakra.

Mito/Karin/Kushina , are all exceptions. Karin's chakra is the only uzumaki chakra that can heal you. Mito and Kushina have special chakra meant for a Jinchuriki.

And yes there are Uzumaki fodders, otherwise they'd be up there with Senju and Uchiha.

you mentioned nagato yet it had to be a reason madara choose him and not uchiha or any other person for that matter,
it said that all members of the uzumaki clan have incredible longevity and life force but kushina had a powerful and special chakra that was well suited for being the nine tails jin. no where was said that mito had the chakra that kushina had she was a powerful kunoichi who was well verse in the art of fuuinjutsu and hashirama wife, due to her knowledge of sealing tech she sealed the nine tails in her self.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Karin = fodder, when it comes to fighting. Tenten > Karin.... yea that is pretty fodder actually. All shinobi in the war that are unnamed and called fodder can fight better than Karin, but you guys call them fodder, so what do i call her?
Also, by "fodder Uzumaki" that is a reference to weak Uzumaki. By your logic, there are no fodders. And if so, people shouldn't use the word. Though i'm sure you yourself have used it.

Karin is Lord Sasuke Loverrr, And she's hot

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Lol Ten ten? Did she appear in war arc?
Fodder uzumaki are nagato parents.

 

[KingHashirama]

you mentioned nagato yet it had to be a reason madara choose him and not uchiha or any other person for that matter,
it said that all members of the uzumaki clan have incredible longevity and life force but kushina had a powerful and special chakra that was well suited for being the nine tails jin. no where was said that mito had the chakra that kushina had she was a powerful kunoichi who was well verse in the art of fuuinjutsu and hashirama wife, due to her knowledge of sealing tech she sealed the nine tails in her self.

. No Madara simply chose him because he was an Uzumaki and hence had some Senju dna. Nothing special about Nagato was mentioned.

Yea, Uzumaki have a incredible longevity due to their strong life force. Which the Senju clan also has.

"No where is it stated Mito had the chakra that Kushina had" no one claimed she had the same chakra. But since she was a powerful shinobi its only logic that she had strong chakra. Simply look at Madara/Hashirama/Tobirama/Izuna... all are powerful during that time and had strong chakra.

No duh she needed knowledge of sealing tech to seal the nine tails in herself.. rofl. No one said anything about it.

 

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. No Madara simply chose him because he was an Uzumaki and hence had some Senju dna. Nothing special about Nagato was mentioned.

Yea, Uzumaki have a incredible longevity due to their strong life force. Which the Senju clan also has.

"No where is it stated Mito had the chakra that Kushina had" no one claimed she had the same chakra. But since she was a powerful shinobi its only logic that she had strong chakra. Simply look at Madara/Hashirama/Tobirama/Izuna... all are powerful during that time and had strong chakra.

No duh she needed knowledge of sealing tech to seal the nine tails in herself.. rofl. No one said anything about it.

@bold what does senju have to do with this? nothing, you have nothing to dispute the fact that other uzumakis could have been kyuubi jins, you said that mito had special chakra to hold kyuubi which she didnt she was a normal uzumaki that trained to become strong nothing more, naruto is half uzumaki hes the kyuubi jin so all your points is crap and you have nothing to prove other uzumaki's couldnt be kyuubi jin.

 

[2nd hokage]

Good read plausible theory

 

[KingHashirama]

@bold what does senju have to do with this? nothing, you have nothing to dispute the fact that other uzumakis could have been kyuubi jins, you said that mito had special chakra to hold kyuubi which she didnt she was a normal uzumaki that trained to become strong nothing more, naruto is half uzumaki hes the kyuubi jin so all your points is crap and you have nothing to prove other uzumaki's couldnt be kyuubi jin.

Well anyone can be a jinchuriki. However for someone to be a successful one you need to have that special chakra. Even Gaara had special chakra to be the jin for Shukaku. Even though he has the same blood as his brother and sister.

Naruto is half uzumaki.. cool. But he was also only home to 50% of the Kurama, not full. So how is my point crap?

I didn't state they CAN'T be jinchurikis. I stated they aren't born with special chakras like Kushina.. unlike how some of you think they are.

 

[fayeon]

Karin is Lord Sasuke Loverrr, And she's hot

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Lol Ten ten? Did she appear in war arc?
Fodder uzumaki are nagato parents.

XD oh my god so much mistakes on this post


1-Sasuke doesn't approve of her And karin isn't worthy of sasuke Anyway .
(even ino have better chance ).


2-Sure that fan art is hot because it look nothing like karin XD even the hair color is different(are trying to insult karin?)


3- tenten stomps karin heck even part1 tenten stomp karin

4- tenten showed up in war arc much more than karin did .

 

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Well anyone can be a jinchuriki. However for someone to be a successful one you need to have that special chakra. Even Gaara had special chakra to be the jin for Shukaku. Even though he has the same blood as his brother and sister.

Naruto is half uzumaki.. cool. But he was also only home to 50% of the Kurama, not full. So how is my point crap?

I didn't state they CAN'T be jinchurikis. I stated they aren't born with special chakras like Kushina.. unlike how some of you think they are.

Again was it said that mito had special chakra to be the Jin? Nope she just sealed it in her. i dont think you understand the meaning the kazekage had when he said the others werent compatible for being the jins. what the kazekage want was weapons that could control the bijuus afterwards he even deemed gaara a failure.

fukai was the jin before bee but he couldnt control it so it was said he wasnt compatible with it,yet he was a jin nonetheless.
was it stated that naruto cant be the jin of 100% kurama? nope.

 

[VongolaX]

Madara had special chakra and so did Hashirama.

 

[KingHashirama]

Again was it said that mito had special chakra to be the Jin? Nope she just sealed it in her. i dont think you understand the meaning the kazekage had when he said the others werent compatible for being the jins. what the kazekage want was weapons that could control the bijuus afterwards he even deemed gaara a failure.

fukai was the jin before bee but he couldnt control it so it was said he wasnt compatible with it,yet he was a jin nonetheless.
was it stated that naruto cant be the jin of 100% kurama? nope.

Powerful shinobi = Powerful chakra. I never stated she had the same special chakra. But in the end she had powerful chakra. She only became the jinchuriki because she chose to. Was she selected? no. Hence why using to make your point is quite futile.

It wasn't only the Kazekage, it was Chiyo also. Kankuro and Temari weren't compatible to be the jinchurikis, they didn't have the right chakra. Don't know why you don't wanna admit it but ok. Keep bickering about it. He deemed Gaara a failure, and later on said he was wrong.


And which part of "anyone can be a jinchuriki" did you not understand? Is this seriously your argument?

When my thread is about some people claiming all the uzumaki have special chakras to be the jinchurikis of the 9-tails, I simply stated no only Kushina had special chakra. And I already explained Mito , was a coincidence.

It doesn't need to be stated he can't be the jin of 100%, to be able to do something you need feats or ability. Show me where Naruto has shown he can handle 100% Kurama (He probably can now, since hes all buddy buddy). Burden of proof here is on you, not on me.

Madara had special chakra and so did Hashirama.

Izuna also, Sasuke also. Hashirama and Tobirama aren't said to have "Special chakra", probably because there is no need for them to have "Special chakra".

On top of that all the uchiha have special chakra according to Tobirama:

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Powerful shinobi = Powerful chakra. I never stated she had the same special chakra. But in the end she had powerful chakra. She only became the jinchuriki because she chose to. Was she selected? no. Hence why using to make your point is quite futile.

It wasn't only the Kazekage, it was Chiyo also. Kankuro and Temari weren't compatible to be the jinchurikis, they didn't have the right chakra. Don't know why you don't wanna admit it but ok. Keep bickering about it. He deemed Gaara a failure, and later on said he was wrong.


And which part of "anyone can be a jinchuriki" did you not understand? Is this seriously your argument?

When my thread is about some people claiming all the uzumaki have special chakras to be the jinchurikis of the 9-tails, I simply stated no only Kushina had special chakra. And I already explained Mito , was a coincidence.

It doesn't need to be stated he can't be the jin of 100%, to be able to do something you need feats or ability. Show me where Naruto has shown he can handle 100% Kurama (He probably can now, since hes all buddy buddy). Burden of proof here is on you, not on me.

Mito/Karin/Kushina , are all exceptions. Karin's chakra is the only uzumaki chakra that can heal you. Mito and Kushina have special chakra meant for a Jinchuriki.

You said it right here dude. then your going to say that its just because she is powerful, anyone can train to be powerful.
changing what you said just proves how pointless this thread, since you didnt prove anything, everything remains the same as it was before.

 

[Raekwon26]

I thought this common knowledge......?

Who the hell said ALL Uzumaki are born for Jinchurikis?