misconception: tobirama's kagutsuchi comments

[Baka Sennin]

People have been taking Tobirama's comments about never seeing a kagutsuchi that strong to imply that Madara has amaterasu. however, kagutsuchi simply means the shape manipulation of the black flames, not amaterasu. sasuke as we know is a master of shape transformation, he has blaze release which is just that and various shape manipulations of chidori. tobirama was just praising the shape manipulation of amaterasu combined with naruto's rasenshuriken

 

[Punk Hazard]

He said he has never seen a Kagutsuchi that strong.
Meaning he has seen inferiors Kagutsuchi.
Kagutsuchi is manipulating Amaterasu.
Meaning either Izuna or Madara must have had it for Tobirama to see it.
Madara has Izuna's Eyes.
Thus, he has Amaterasu.
F*ck your thread.

 

[0TailBijuu]

Agreedxdxd

 

[KidGamer65]

Agreed. Kagutsuchi even translates to Flame Control in the viz manga. And flame control doesn't just mean Amaterasu.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

YESH! Have a rep sir you are very verily correct :I

 

[Anduril]

Well he knew Other uchiha's like Kagami.... may be he had it.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

He said he has never seen a Kagutsuchi that strong.
Meaning he has seen inferiors Kagutsuchi.
Kagutsuchi is manipulating Amaterasu.
Meaning either Izuna or Madara must have had it for Tobirama to see it.
Madara has Izuna's Eyes.
Thus, he has Amaterasu.
F*ck your thread.

your post too. Pal. :I

 

[Moegi of Akatsuki]

Doesn't matter since Danzo one shots.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

While it may not imply that Madara has it...this does mean that there have been enough Uchiha who did have Flame Control to where he could compare it.....which is impressive for Sasuke, and shows that Tobirama and Hashirama survived fights against such an obstacle.

 

[Avinash012]

He said he has never seen a Kagutsuchi that strong.
Meaning he has seen inferiors Kagutsuchi.
Kagutsuchi is manipulating Amaterasu.
Meaning either Izuna or Madara must have had it for Tobirama to see it.
Madara has Izuna's Eyes.
Thus, he has Amaterasu.
F*ck your thread.

This^^^^^^^^^^ and every MS user(both eyes) would have Amatarasu,tsukiyomi as wel as Susano...............

 

[DELTA704]

This^^^^^^^^^^ and every MS user(both eyes) would have Amatarasu,tsukiyomi as wel as Susano...............

Thats not true. It was said that even with MS in both eyes it is rare to see Susanoo

 

[Jon Snow.]

Enton Kagutsuchi:Viz manga Inferno Style: Flame Control

It does not necessarily refer to Amaterasu so you're probably correct.

 

[Kαmi]

Maybe there was somebody in Tobirama's time who was skilled with manipulating flame and fire and having different variants the same way Sasuke has his different chidori variants. Is that what you're saying?

 

[Baka Sennin]

He said he has never seen a Kagutsuchi that strong.
Meaning he has seen inferiors Kagutsuchi.
Kagutsuchi is manipulating Amaterasu.
Meaning either Izuna or Madara must have had it for Tobirama to see it.
Madara has Izuna's Eyes.
Thus, he has Amaterasu.
F*ck your thread.

kagutsuchi is FLAME control, not amaterasu control. madara has some pretty massive shape manipulation of flames, like those phoenixes of his. or sasuke's dragon heads.

 

[Baka Sennin]

Maybe there was somebody in Tobirama's time who was skilled with manipulating flame and fire and having different variants the same way Sasuke has his different chidori variants. Is that what you're saying?

couldnt have put it better. sasuke shaped his amaterasu into a massive sword, that's what tobirama was referring to imo

 

[Punk Hazard]

kagutsuchi is FLAME control, not amaterasu control. madara has some pretty massive shape manipulation of flames, like those phoenixes of his. or sasuke's dragon heads.

Kagutuschi is an Amaterasu variant.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kagutuschi is an Amaterasu variant.

Enton: Kagutsuchi (Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi) is. The Enton before the actual technique name shows that the flames of blaze release (Amaterasu) are the ones being manipulated.

 

[Neonian]

We'll get to see soon.

 

[Prime Rib]

blaze release is an advance chakra nature

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

kagutsuchi is FLAME control, not amaterasu control. madara has some pretty massive shape manipulation of flames, like those phoenixes of his. or sasuke's dragon heads.

Well said...