Misconception that Hashirama is the only one who can defeat Madara

[MickNerks]

There is alot of Madara-ism, on the base which revolves arould the fact that madara is unbeatable. The main reason that it is believed that madara is unbeatable is because it was stated that only hashirma can defeat him.

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And the crazy thing is that it wasnt just said once, but twice by two diffrent sources

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Now some of us are weary of this claim because it seems that hashirama's powers are no where near the level of madara's. Well I have found reason to believe that the claims that Madara and Dan made were not nessasarly true. First im gonna use someone else as an example then i will come back to madara. But lets take a look at Muu. When it came to Mu people were spewing the same non-sense. First the allied forces claim him as unbeatable:

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Then he himself said only onoki could defeat him:

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Momentarily i was confused because i remembered that Muu was defeated twice

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And neither of the people who defeated him was Onoki.

The first person to defeat muu was Naruto with his planetary rasengan. Then gaara sealed him, but he split right before getting sealed.

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The second and final blow was when the raikage punched the s#!t out of him and knocked him out until the edo tensien was ended.

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So there in Muu's case we have seen that, it was said that only one person could defeat him, but he was actually defeated by 2 separate people. I feel like this also implies to Madara. Madara and Dan both feel as if the 1st hokage is the only one to defeat him but obviously they dont know about the talent of the new generation.
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, if madara didnt have Rinnegan he would have been trumped by Naruto and Gaara.

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All this thread is basically trying to do is inform the base that just because madara says hashirama is the only one who can beat him doesnt mean that is true. As i just showed you with Muu. Now i know there are those who will take the evidence i have given with Muu and not apply it to madara for reasons beyond me. But let me assure you that i have proven that just because you read something in the manga (spoken from a character) does not make it true.

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Im Finish.

 

[Kettei]

Muu cant handle madara

 

[CharlieBundels]

If you're talking about edo Madara, you just wasted your time time son.

 

[natssuu]

COOL STORY BRO! lol just joking. Indeed, hype is only hype nothing more nothing less.

 

[-S-]

When you gain powers like immortality and the paths, your battle style changes.

If Madara hadn't the rinnegan and immortality, his style would be much different.

Madara even made this clear when he dropped the comet, he said ''it doesn't matter, we'll be revived soon enough''

 

[GiantShuriken]

The allied forces were correct that only Onoki could handle Muu. At that time, they had no intention of bringing Naruto/Bee into the war.

 

[-Carnage-]

i already new that....itachi said himself that everyone has weaknesses...

 

[Narutohokage7]

Madara already faced Muu before he died.. Muu had Oonoki with him and was still beaten.

 

[Negative Knight]

Muu cant handle madara

You didn't read xd, it was giving the example of muu only being able to lose to Oonki similar to how Hashirama isn't the only person who can't defeat madara

 

[CharlieBundels]

Muu is a zombified Pussay, that's that.

 

[natssuu]

i already new that....itachi said himself that everyone has weaknesses...

Yeah, Madara actually has a HUGE weakness. And what I'm talking about is his BIGASS and MIGHTY supermegahyper ego.

 

[OnPoint]

What Madara actually said (in the official VIZ scan) was:

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- He could be referring to the past tense ("only Hashirama could ever defeat me [in my lifetime]")
- The only person who'd stand a chance against him now would be Shodai

People will interpret that page in different ways. In any case, Madara is not omniscient; he does not know everyone ninja who ever existed (e.g. BM Naruto), so he's in no position to be making such a claim. Why any one would listen to what Dan said I do not know, because Dan is not aware of all of Edo Madara's powerups. To him, it may very well be just EMS Madara (No Rinnegan or Mokuton), and since Hashirama already defeated EMS Madara once, it was the logic choice to make (for Dan) when discussing who could stop Madara.

All in all, the only one who can defeat Edo Madara (Kabuto and ET excluded) is Obito.

 

[GiantShuriken]

What does Onoki saying he's the only one who can stop Muu in the allied shinobi forces have to do with Madara? Is Madara on the allied shinobi forces? No. He wasn't even on the battlefield at the time. And Naruto/Bee weren't a part of the war either.

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Hashirama is a baus. Nuff' said.

 

[william7]

if madara wasnt brought back to life he'd be rolling in his grave

 

[MickNerks]

Muu cant handle madara

Where did i say this was a Muu vs Madara thread??? Please re-read.

If you're talking about edo Madara, you just wasted your time time son.

why???

When you gain powers like immortality and the paths, your battle style changes.

If Madara hadn't the rinnegan and immortality, his style would be much different.

Madara even made this clear when he dropped the comet, he said ''it doesn't matter, we'll be revived soon enough''

No disrespect, but what does that have to do with Madara only being defeated by hashirama.

The allied forces were correct that only Onoki could handle Muu. At that time, they had no intention of bringing Naruto/Bee into the war.

Raikage handled Muu.

Madara already faced Muu before he died.. Muu had Oonoki with him and was still beaten.

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that has nothing to do with the original thread!!!! guys please read.

You didn't read xd, it was giving the example of muu only being able to lose to Oonki similar to how Hashirama isn't the only person who can't defeat madara

Thank you

 

[Simple Math]

i already new that....itachi said himself that everyone has weaknesses...

but kishi himself said that madara doesnt have any weakness ;/

 

[Ninpou]

Im pretty sure Obito could troll him. Maybe even Naruto.

 

[UnrealSoul]

The amount of fanboyism amazes me.Clearly Madara stated Hashi is the only one that "Could" stop him.Clearly it means a 50/50 chance of hashi winning the fight.

 

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No disrespect, but what does that have to do with Madara only being defeated by Hashirama.

No disrespect, but how come you lack the ability to understand my post?

I was saying, now Madara's has new powers, his fighting style has changed from when he fought Hashirama.

I am actually supporting your statement if you didn't notice.

Due to the fact that we must base Madara's powers from when he didn't have Rinnegan and Immortality during the period he was bested by Hashirama.