Misconception: Tayuya's flute genjutsu solos NV

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This is fairly obvious so I'll keep this short. Lately people have been saying "flute genjutsu gg" when that's not true - Tayuya's genjutsu itself is not that powerful.

It may seem inconsistent that Part I Shikamaru could break this genjutsu - but Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke, both genjutsu experts, needed each other's help to break out of it.

The reason behind this is because Kabuto's Sage Mode powered up this genjutsu to make it a lot stronger. Fukusaku explained it to Naruto.

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So if Tayuya had used the genjutsu, or if Kabuto had used that genjutsu while not in Sage Mode, it would not have affected Itachi or Sasuke much.

It's also true with the rest of Kabuto's arsenal - White Rage, Muki Tensei, Sound 5 abilities, even liquification and Uzumaki healing, etc. are all way more powerful in Sage Mode than when he's in base.
 

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Your basing this on nothing, what proof do you have that it wouldn't affect them normally?
 

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It is a sound genjutsu
 

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Your basing this on nothing, what proof do you have that it wouldn't affect them normally?

Look at the scan. Genjutsu gets a serious power-up in SM. So we already know that in base it's not as strong as in SM. The final straw is that Part I Shikamaru could break out of it while two genjutsu experts couldn't. It makes the most sense.
 

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It failed against a 13 year old breaking his finger.

Edit: I know you already said that. I'm just reiterating.
 
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I agree .

Kabuto showed better feats for those techniques than most of the owners .
 

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