[Discussion] Misconception: Shanks and Mihawk are definitely equal

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Renpatsu Dei

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As we all know, Shanks used to duel with Hawkeye all the time, something that stopped after he lost his arm. Yet Shanks has gone from strength to strength since he lost his arm while I'm sure Mihawk has done the same. But here's where I think the misconception is. Mihawk and Shanks are both swordsmen and used to duel with swords, and Mihawk is now known as the greatest swordsman in the world, where as Shanks is one of the top four strongest pirates in the world.

What I'm getting at is that their respective foci changed after Shanks lost his arm. Shanks is no doubt still a great swordsman but his skill would have diminshed with the loss of an arm, something that Mihawk realised. However, Shanks still rose to the rank of Emperor, this being due to immensely powerful haki. IMO he has the most powerful haki in the series, at least in terms of conqueror's haki. He has the second most impressive haki feat in destroying parts of Whitebeard's ship and Oda has even said he would double the most impressive of the series so far IMO (Luffy's performance at Fishman Island). Mihawk would have more likely gone on to further refine his swordsmanship and while I'm sure Mihawk is proficient with haki, I'm willing to bet Shanks' far surpasses Mihawk's.

To get to yonko status and maintain it, Shanks would have presumably had to fight a wider range of opponents, probably stronger ones, I personally think Shanks is only surpassed by Mihawk in terms of swordsmanship, the fear people felt when they saw Shanks at Marineford suggests his skills far surpass mere swordsmanship, and overall I think he outclasses Mihawk, though it's impossible to tell how much by because we know next to nothing about Shanks. Their duels were a long time ago, and their growth would have been far different.
 

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Impossible....
Someone so proud like Mihawk would never be a Government pet if he was as strong as Shanks...

I believe, they are rivaling in only swordmanship.... Overall, definitely Shanks IMO is the strongest man out there currently...
 

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I don't think they were ever equal as swordsman nor did Shanks' skills diminish since he wields a cutlass and that can only be held in one hand.
 

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Impossible....
Someone so proud like Mihawk would never be a Government pet if he was as strong as Shanks...

I believe, they are rivaling in only swordmanship.... Overall, definitely Shanks IMO is the strongest man out there currently...

Government dog? What has the WG told him to do and he done? MF? He rocked up because he wanted to have a challenge. Which is more evident when everyone saw him since they all were suprised and said that the last person to come here would be him. Hence why he isn't a government dog.
 

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Government dog? What has the WG told him to do and he done? MF? He rocked up because he wanted to have a challenge. Which is more evident when everyone saw him since they all were suprised and said that the last person to come here would be him. Hence why he isn't a government dog.

Why would someone join shichibukai???
1- To get under WG's banner, so that other than Yonko one must carefully think before challenging them...(Buggy/Moria/Hancok)
2- To cover up their selfish acts or evil...(Dofy/Law/Kuma)

Where'd you put Mihawk???
If he do what he wants, then why a shichibukai? He could be a normal person if he wasn't enough strong to go against other...(which isn't true) or a super-mofo strong pirate so that WG can't stop him from doing things....
 

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Why would someone join shichibukai???
1- To get under WG's banner, so that other than Yonko one must carefully think before challenging them...(Buggy/Moria/Hancok)
2- To cover up their selfish acts or evil...(Dofy/Law/Kuma)

Where'd you put Mihawk???
If he do what he wants, then why a shichibukai? He could be a normal person if he wasn't enough strong to go against other...(which isn't true)
A Emperor becomes one when he/she has a strong crew, and have obtained islands. And we have yet to see Mihawk with a crew (and there's a 99% that he doesn't have a crew since he travels alone and lives in a secluded castle) and obtaining islands. Moreover is the fact that he may be happy with just being the WSS and due to that, he doesn't want to be PK and he likes the fact that Marines don't bother him. Since he is a laidback and chilled character.

or a super-mofo strong pirate so that WG can't stop him from doing things....
So your saying Roger can single handedly fight the entire force of the WG and win.

And why'd I use Roger? He's the strongest. And there's no way he himself can defeat the entire WG. So you expect Mihawk to?
 
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Stop arguing... Shanks fought mihawk when he was not even an emperor but mihawk was the greatest swordsman at that time... He fought equally and later on lost his arm and still went on to become a yonkou. That shows that he was not just powerful but also improving a lot. He has surpassed even kaidou pre time skip. He stopped kaidou in just one day during war. And equalled white beard. How can mihawk beat someone like him NOW. He even couldnt kill any good pirate during war. Jaws stopped his attack. Vista stopped him from chasing luffy and many. Shanks on the other hand just reached there and sengoku called the war off.
 

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They're equal until Oda says otherwise.
 

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A Emperor becomes one when he/she has a strong crew, and have obtained islands. And we have yet to see Mihawk with a crew (and there's a 99% that he doesn't have a crew since he travels alone and lives in a secluded castle) and obtaining islands. Moreover is the fact that he may be happy with just being the WSS and due to that, he doesn't want to be PK and he likes the fact that Marines don't bother him. Since he is a laidback and chilled character.


So your saying Roger can single handedly fight the entire force of the WG and win.

And why'd I use Roger? He's the strongest. And there's no way he himself can defeat the entire WG. So you expect Mihawk to?

Phew, man you are really a stubborn one....
Actually, I myself is a laidback person so the only point I want to make is that Shanks is pretty much above Mihawk...
and the only fields they rival each other is swordsmanship and that's where Mihawk seems dominating...
 

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Why do people keep assuming that Shanks is just a swordsman? Yes, he uses a sword, but I'm 100% certain that he isn't classified as a swordsman. I think he's more like Rayleigh who uses a sword, but also has epic Haki that he uses more. In swordsmanship, Mihawk beats Shanks, in overall fighting abilities, I think Shanks wins.
 

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Phew, man you are really a stubborn one....
Actually, I myself is a laidback person so the only point I want to make is that Shanks is pretty much above Mihawk...
and the only fields they rival each other is swordsmanship and that's where Mihawk seems dominating...

Exactly, and maybe shanks even uses legs like sanji....ha ha
 

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I cant remember this but did it ever actually say that shanks is a swordsman?
 

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I cant remember this but did it ever actually say that shanks is a swordsman?

I don't think so, it's just said that Mihawk and Shanks used to spar and they were even.
 

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It was proven that they had sword duels, I'm sure Shanks isn't only using his sword to attack - he probably has some sick kicks and his Haki is one of the strongest if not the strongest in OP.
 

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Stop arguing... Shanks fought mihawk when he was not even an emperor but mihawk was the greatest swordsman at that time... He fought equally and later on lost his arm and still went on to become a yonkou. That shows that he was not just powerful but also improving a lot. He has surpassed even kaidou pre time skip. He stopped kaidou in just one day during war. And equalled white beard. How can mihawk beat someone like him NOW. He even couldnt kill any good pirate during war. Jaws stopped his attack. Vista stopped him from chasing luffy and many. Shanks on the other hand just reached there and sengoku called the war off.

I'm sharing your thoughts on this one ..
 

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Stop arguing... Shanks fought mihawk when he was not even an emperor but mihawk was the greatest swordsman at that time... He fought equally and later on lost his arm and still went on to become a yonkou. That shows that he was not just powerful but also improving a lot. He has surpassed even kaidou pre time skip. He stopped kaidou in just one day during war. And equalled white beard. How can mihawk beat someone like him NOW. He even couldnt kill any good pirate during war. Jaws stopped his attack. Vista stopped him from chasing luffy and many. Shanks on the other hand just reached there and sengoku called the war off.

Mihawk was not the World's Strongest Swordsman back when they were dueling(unless you have proof of that) and Shanks wasn't a Yonko. Shanks equaled WB just from a slash? By that logic all the admirals are above WB. Garp/Sengoku didn't kill anyone during the war and we know how ridiculously strong they are. I guess they are weak since they didn't kill anyone? Daz bones stopped Mihawk's attack. Does that mean Daz Bones > Mihawk? Heck no, same goes for Jozu. One Yonko could almost defeat the marines and since all Yonko crews are around same level, Shanks' crew + WB crew would destroy the marines.
 

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Only a desperate fanboy would say that Mihawk=Shanks... Mihawk is overated, you'll see this when Shiliew takes his title...
 

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Shanks>Mihawk overall

Mihawk might be slightly the better swordsman but Shanks is overall stronger. Haki, Speed, Strength, Durability, Endurance. Shanks tops in those factors so if it came down to a real fight Shanks would win. Although i do think that Mihawk is Yonko level.

P.S Shanks losing an arm didn't weaken him in any way.

1. Oda stated that it didn't weaken him
2. Shanks uses a cutlass which can only be held with one hand.
 
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