[Misconception]Sasuke never surpassed Madara.

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Too bad, that this version of Shedara is literally featless :/



Though I might have miss-comprehended Kurama's statement,
the fact still stands that BPS Sasuke outclasses Madara.

If we go by feats, then Madara stands no chance.

And your claims are baseless.
 

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Sasuke not even surpassed Hashirama, let alone Madara :/
Even Sakura can kick Sasuke's PS like a football and smash it.
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Please tell me you are joking.
OP: I'd give Madara the edge but both Sasuke and Naruto certainly beat Madara.
 

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At first I thought Madara was stronger than Sasuke. That was until the new Boruto movie came out.. It showed Sasuke true powers. It showed his growth as a Adult Uchiha and what they are capable of..
 

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I am not talking about versus scenario but in general.

Sasuke main power is Rinnegan which Madara had in both eyes + with Rikudo senjutsu as buff his Rinnegan potential sh1ts on anything Sasuke can offer as shown with their CT.

Madara have Rikudo senjutsu power which Sasuke doesn´t have at all.

Madara is nigh immortal and have amazing regeneration while Sasuke doesn´t have anything of those.

Madara has Mokuton while Sasuke don´t.

JJ Madara chakra reserves sh1ts on any version of Sasuke reserves.

Madara have third eye Rinne Sharingan which allows him to one shot 99,9999 % of NV. and he can make world scale Mokuton to entangle IT victims

Shame how Madara has to be a JJ to surpass Sasuke
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Madara attained Mokuton through Kabuto experimentation

Madara has two Rinnegan's true, BUT Sasuke's one Rinnegan is >= two, this is further backed up when we observe that when it is severely weakened, it takes the form of a regular Rinnegan.
 

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He barely reached Hagoromo's lvl and this tard says kaguya :coffee:
this is the guy you say surpassed Madara, comparing Madara's power against Kaguya's and only Kaguya's [ ]

This is one of the reasons why Sasuketards like yourself can't be taken seriously: you're always talking before thinking things through. What i see and what is stated in the manga in the context it was meant to be taken in is more important to me than your opinion.
 
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BPS Sasuke is still not stronger than Madara.
 

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At first I thought Madara was stronger than Sasuke. That was until the new Boruto movie came out.. It showed Sasuke true powers. It showed his growth as a Adult Uchiha and what they are capable of..

Exactly. Sasuke going toe to toe with a real Otsutsuki (which are incredible beings), is enough to settle this... lets face it Kinshiki is a beast and if it wasn't for Ameno Sasuke would've been screwed.
 

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Shame how Madara has to be a JJ to surpass Sasuke
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Madara attained Mokuton through Kabuto experimentation

Madara has two Rinnegan's true, BUT Sasuke's one Rinnegan is >= two, this is further backed up when we observe that when it is severely weakened, it takes the form of a regular Rinnegan.

Madara is the one to be surpassed not Sasuke.
 

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Exactly. Sasuke going toe to toe with a real Otsutsuki that are incredible beings is enough to settle this.

OP point is that VOTE2 Sasukes Bijuu Susanoo is tronger than JJ Madara. In strength and sheer chakra power this may be true but he did NOT surpass Juubi Jin Madara and cannot beat him adult or teen. Juubi Jin Madara would wreck both Momo and Kishi with ease. They dont come close to a Complete Juubi Jinchuriki.
 

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OP point is that VOTE2 Sasukes Bijuu Susanoo is tronger than JJ Madara. In strength and sheer chakra power this may be true but he did NOT surpass Juubi Jin Madara and cannot beat him adult or teen. Juubi Jin Madara would wreck both Momo and Kishi with ease. They dont come close to a Complete Juubi Jinchuriki.

I don't agree. Juubi Jin Madara needed exterior resources in order to become the JJ, without the gedo he would never make it and Madara was more of a vessel for Kaguya. He was basically a carcass like the ones needed for Edo Tensei. :p

Sasuke was a natural talent that merely liquified the Tail Beasts into chakra and absorbed it.

Think of oranges..

Madara was an orange sliced in half.

Sasuke was the juice, much more refined.
 

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First off Jubbi Maddy is immortal. Sasuke cannot defeat Madaras Limbo without Naruto. Naruto actually is a better match up with his senjutsu buff( he matched bps sasuke) but he still dies.

And the comment Orochimaru made was reffered to Madara before anyone knew he would become a juubi jin. Sasuke is more powerful than THAT madara. But he cannot smack around JJ Madara. He could barely whoop Kinshiki.
limbo dies to ps and dies miserably, when would pple stop overating limbo when it comes to macthups on this level. its a complete non factor against sasuke heck v3 rikudou chakrad soosano cuts each of them into pieces

itt was merely a kenjutsu battle, no doujutsu power was used so dont mention kinshiki here
 

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limbo dies to ps and dies miserably, when would pple stop overating limbo when it comes to macthups on this level. its a complete non factor against sasuke heck v3 rikudou chakrad soosano cuts each of them into pieces

itt was merely a kenjutsu battle, no doujutsu power was used so dont mention kinshiki here

Only Senjutsu damages Limbo sir. And Sasuke only uses Six Paths and not on a large scale.
 

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Same as sasuke vs naruto debate everybody picks their side.

The naruto vs sasuke vs madara debate will never end.

I think DR shinju JJ maddy beats sasukes prime mid dif, 3 eye maddy stomps

I take my opinion from when jj madara got his 2nd eye, he brushed sasuke off like a fodder along with naruto, casually flew up to the air, dropped some meteors and proceeded to neg NV, naruto and sasuke simply couldnt do shit to stop him from doing mugen tsukuyomi.

Then theres the fact he awakens kaguyas dojutsu along with his pair of rinnegan, rikudou senjutsu, immortality due to having no limbs and instant regeneration, bijuus, mokuton,PS and limbo... cmon you trully have to wank sasuke or hate madara to believe sasuke can take on madara by himself.
 

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Same as sasuke vs naruto debate everybody picks their side.

The naruto vs sasuke vs madara debate will never end.

I think DR shinju JJ maddy beats sasukes prime mid dif, 3 eye maddy stomps

I take my opinion from when jj madara got his 2nd eye, he brushed sasuke off like a fodder along with naruto, casually flew up to the air, dropped some meteors and proceeded to neg NV, naruto and sasuke simply couldnt do shit to stop him from doing mugen tsukuyomi.

Then theres the fact he awakens kaguyas dojutsu along with his pair of rinnegan, rikudou senjutsu, immortality due to having no limbs and instant regeneration, bijuus, mokuton,PS and limbo... cmon you trully have to wank sasuke or hate madara to believe sasuke can take on madara by himself.

Thank you. Although I hate how Madara stole EVERY power there is you cannot deny he is the strongest.

Also to OP. Sasukes BPS still isnt stronger for the simple fact that he has no Six Paths Senjutsu. Madara had all 9 bijuu plus Six Paths Senjutsu. Put Narutos final attack with Sasukes Indras Arrow and there you have JJ Madara.
 
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