[Misconception]Sasuke never surpassed Madara.

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Hey, yo what's up!
Since I was reading some old stuff on NDS
and noticed how delusional some kids are,
I decided to explain why Sasuke surpassed
Shedara and how. I'm on my phone so I'll
edit Scans later.

First of people assume that Sasuke never
surpassed him because Madara was a Juubi Jin.
I guess it's only logical to think that someone
who has Eye and Body Power > Eye Power alone.

False.

Sasuke not only received the Rinnegan,
but infact also got Hagoromo's Chakra.
He was able to challenge 1 Eyed JJ Madara
with his new received power up.

Madara also never surpassed Hagormo.
This was clear after 2 non-Juubi Jins were
playing football with Madara after receiving
50% of Hagoromo's power.

Madara was close to Hagoromo's Power,
but never reached his level.
On the other hand we have Sasuke, who
was stated to be on Hagoromo's lvl on Vote2.

From that point Sasuke surpassed Madara.
It may be for the fact that Sasuke needed the Bijuus,
but he surpassed him for a short period.

And we don't know how Adult Sasuke would do against
Madara at all.

Thank you ​

 

[Joon]

Orochimaru said that Sasuke had the potential to surpass Madara.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Orochimaru said that Sasuke had the potential to surpass Madara.

And he did.

 

[Gerkak]

Sasuke was never stated to be on hogoromo's level, the technique(yes a single technique) he used was said to be on par with a similar technique used by hogoromo.

This is very different from being on par with hogoromo as a whole.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

its not hard to conclude that 3 eye JJ Madara should be tier above him.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Sasuke was never stated to be on hogoromo's level, the technique(yes a single technique) he used was said to be on par with a similar technique used by hogoromo.

This is very different from being on par with hogoromo as a whole.

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If he did something on Hagoromo's Lvl we can well assume that he is on his Lvl.
Also, Madara's Body Power advantage loses its meaning, since Sasuke equalizes
the body aspect with his BPS.

 

[HENI]

Sasuke is Whis and Madara is Saibaman.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

its not hard to conclude that 3 eye JJ Madara should be tier above him.

How so?
Sasuke rekt 1 Eyed JJ Madara with his new gained power up.
Adult Sasuke shits :sdo:

 

[Joon]

How so?
Sasuke rekt 1 Eyed JJ Madara with his new gained power up.
Adult Sasuke shits :sdo:

He had help from Naruto. Dual Rinnegan JJ Madara stomps. :/

 

[Gerkak]

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If he did something on Hagoromo's Lvl we can well assume that he is on his Lvl.
Also, Madara's Body Power advantage loses its meaning, since Sasuke equalizes
the body aspect with his BPS.

There is no room for assumptions here. The scan mentions sasuke's skill in using a jutsu and puts his use of said technique on hogoromo's level when hogoromo uses the same jutsu. This is not the same as say the scan said sasuke is as powerful as hogoromo.

By your logic naruto must also be at hogoromo's level for matching sasuke, this is the same hogoromo that split his powers and gave them half each. Neither naruto nor sasuke are on his level. What they accomplished he accomplished when he was near death.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

How so?
Sasuke rekt 1 Eyed JJ Madara with his new gained power up.
Adult Sasuke shits :sdo:

I am not talking about versus scenario but in general.

Sasuke main power is Rinnegan which Madara had in both eyes + with Rikudo senjutsu as buff his Rinnegan potential sh1ts on anything Sasuke can offer as shown with their CT.

Madara have Rikudo senjutsu power which Sasuke doesn´t have at all.

Madara is nigh immortal and have amazing regeneration while Sasuke doesn´t have anything of those.

Madara has Mokuton while Sasuke don´t.

JJ Madara chakra reserves sh1ts on any version of Sasuke reserves.

Madara have third eye Rinne Sharingan which allows him to one shot 99,9999 % of NV. and he can make world scale Mokuton to entangle IT victims

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

He had help from Naruto. Dual Rinnegan JJ Madara stomps. :/

Too bad, that this version of Shedara is literally featless :/

There is no room for assumptions here. The scan mentions sasuke's skill in using a jutsu and puts his use of said technique on hogoromo's level when hogoromo uses the same jutsu. This is not the same as say the scan said sasuke is as powerful as hogoromo.

By your logic naruto must also be at hogoromo's level for matching sasuke, this is the same hogoromo that split his powers and gave them half each. Neither naruto nor sasuke are on his level. What they accomplished he accomplished when he was near death.

Though I might have miss-comprehended Kurama's statement,
the fact still stands that BPS Sasuke outclasses Madara.

If we go by feats, then Madara stands no chance.

 

[Gerkak]

Though I might have miss-comprehended Kurama's statement,
the fact still stands that BPS Sasuke outclasses Madara.

If we go by feats, then Madara stands no chance.

Very well.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

I am not talking about versus scenario but in general.

Sasuke main power is Rinnegan which Madara had in both eyes + with Rikudo senjutsu as buff his Rinnegan potential sh1ts on anything Sasuke can offer as show with their CT.

Madara have Rikudo senjutsu power which Sasuke doesn´t have at all.

Madara is nigh immortal and have amazing regeneration while Sasuke doesn´t have anything of those.

Madara has Mokuton while Sasuke don´t.

JJ Madara chakra reserves sh1ts on any version of Sasuke reserves.

Madara have third eye Rinne Sharingan which allows him to one shot 99,9999 % of NV. and he can make world scale Mokuton to entangle IT victims

It isn't confirmed that Senjutsu boosts Doujutsu,
here is no room for assumptions.

And IT doesn't even work on Sasuke, what are you smoking?

Madara had the Rinnegan long before Sasuke.
Yet Sasuke managed to use an advance version of CT hours after receiving it.

Also my statement was based on BPS Sasuke who should enough chakra to compete Madara.

I'm not going to discuss with you either, since that day you were saying Edo Tensei's have hearts as well.

No Re please.

 

[Beauty Busty Beast]

Sasuke not even surpassed Hashirama, let alone Madara :/
Even Sakura can kick Sasuke's PS like a football and smash it.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Sasuke not even surpassed Hashirama, let alone Madara :/
Even Sakura can kick Sasuke's PS like a football and smash it.

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[FoxesInWonderland]

I'd assume both naruto and sasuke surpassed madara

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

It isn't confirmed that Senjutsu boosts Doujutsu,
here is no room for assumptions.

And IT doesn't even work Sasuke, what are you smoking?

Madara had the Rinnegan long before Sasuke.
Yet Sasuke managed to use an advance version of CT hours after receiving it.

Also my statement was based on BPS Sasuke who should enough chakra to compete Madara.

I'm not going to discuss with you either, since that day you were saying Edo Tensei's have hearts as well.

No Re please.

Senjutsu bosts ninjutsu and each Rinnegan jutsus are clasified as ninjutsu and it was obvious Jugo´s senjutsu boosted Susanoo which is eye power.

Re -read my post I said in general not in versus scenario so Sasuke countering IT is irrelevant, point is he can´t reproduce Madara´s IT .

BPS SAsuke has only portions of Bijuus chakra not entire chakra.Madara also has Hashirama SM chakra and chakra from Shinju tree (That tree absorbed chakra from many shinobis when Obito summoned it )

And all that BPS Chakra was comparable to RSM Naruto chakra which is again nowhere near JJ MAdara chakra.


I Am not denying that by feats Sasuke is stronger and thats why I said in my first post " Should be above " since hypothetically Madara should be above him.

 

[Mari Makinami]

Great thread bro, 10/10 would read again

Ty and Lord Sasuke negs :lol

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Sasuke is awesome,but Madara has more chakra and i don't think Sauce could beat 3 eye Madara...
But in terms of skill Sauce>FegDara.