misconception on. " base naruto "

[maxwellwilson02]

When people say naruto is no prodigy becasuse without kurama he would be long dead as base him was nothing special for a long time they keep forgetting that while naruto with kurama is stronger than without, base naruto without kurama would have been stronger than base naruto as of now. Base naruto would not have struggled with chakra control as a kid and would have probably been a genius at it. Base naruto never having kurama would still have all the rasengans and sage mode plus more. Idk how you wouldn't consider a 16 year old with this amount of power ( easily kage level) not to be a genius / prodigy. This is not even taking into factor what would happen if his parents were alive.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Actaully if he wasnt born uzumaki he be dead already

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Doesn't matter either way. He has Kurama. Case closed. Saying "base Naruto" is a stupid cop out by others who don't want him to have Kyuubi.

 

[Midday]

True. Not saying any names but it's always a certain fanbase who likes to drop the line "Naruto is nothing without the 9 tails".

 

[southern sun]

naruto prodigy anyway

 

[Sot viing hun]

His chakra control wouldn't have been messed up when he was younger, so he could have grown faster probably, and if his parents wouldn't have died, Minato could have teached him FTG and a few sealing techniques.

But Naruto wouldn't be as strong as he's now, he'd still be a kage level shinobi most likely.

 

[YellowFang]

Base Naruto is strong also... He's matured enough that in a fight he becomes intelligent...

Also SM should be considered in his base... coz that isn't an extra ability but gained it through training...
And he can use it anywhere anytime w/o any problems or restrictions...
Just like an Uchiha activates his sharingan anytime he wants...

 

[maxwellwilson02]

Actaully if he wasnt born uzumaki he be dead already

Never said anything about him being uzamaki as he can't change who is born from. You could use that against any characters. Just that naruto without kurama is Kate level @ 16 still.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Regardless of kurama naruto's main source of power and intelligence com,es from using shadow clones they are what makes him all the more stronger and smarter they have caused him to achieve things faster

 

[maxwellwilson02]

He would still be able to spam shadow clones. To the level he has now? No but spam them still. Naruto's base chakra is massive and when he uses shadow clones at first he was very wasteful in his chakra but now that his chakra control would have been great he would be able to use his already great chakra more efficiently .

 

[BlacLord™]

His chakra control would've been the same but I don't see Base Naruto as no Kyuubi, I see base Naruto like pre-Rasenshuriken Naruto, with the Kyuubi but not used unless he's put in a desperate situation.

I don't consider him a genius or prodigy, but a hard worker (with some power aid from Kurama too).

 

[maxwellwilson02]

His chakra control would've been the same but I don't see Base Naruto as no Kyuubi, I see base Naruto like pre-Rasenshuriken Naruto, with the Kyuubi but not used unless he's put in a desperate situation.

I don't consider him a genius or prodigy, but a hard worker (with some power aid from Kurama too).

No it's been stated that naruto's chakra control and to an extent his chakra would have been better without it holding back kurama. Naruto without kurama would still be capable of rasenshuriken and sage mode( to a better extent as he would be able to fuse with frogs).

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

His chakra control wouldn't have been messed up when he was younger, so he could have grown faster probably, and if his parents wouldn't have died, Minato could have teached him FTG and a few sealing techniques.

But Naruto wouldn't be as strong as he's now, he'd still be a kage level shinobi most likely.

this about sums it up but he still would have lost alot of fights against certain strong shinobi

 

[AGoodBoy]

Without kurama, base naruto instantly has reduced chakra.

Say goodbye to 1000 shadow clone jutsu right off the bat.
He wouldn't be able to learn rasengan as easy as he did because he wouldn't have kyuubi restoring him as fast anymore. He was only able to learn alot of his stuff because of kyuubi increasing the rate he recovers and boosting his massive chakra.

Without kyuubi, he would have died against haku. He and sasuke both.

No it's been stated that naruto's chakra control and to an extent his chakra would have been better without it holding back kurama. Naruto without kurama would still be capable of rasenshuriken and sage mode( to a better extent as he would be able to fuse with frogs).

It was only because of kyuubi he was able to learn rasenshuuriken. Without the massive chakra to allow him to use thousand clones, he wouldn't have learnt the jutsu that quickly. He wouldn't even be able to use that many clones that long, and when he dismissed them, he wouldn't recover from the damage as fast.

Alot of the things naruto has/learnt (rasengan, rasenshuriken, multiple shadow clones) was because of the kyuubi increasing his regeneration rate so he could train harder and longer. Without kyuubi, it's doubtful he'd be kage level. All he'd really have is rasengan, summoning and probably max 10 clones to use per fight. With his stupidity, that's not near enough clones. Quite possibly he could have had sage mode also. But that really would only allow him to use odama rasengan and frog kumite. he'd not have a massive array as jiraiya.

 

[maxwellwilson02]

this about sums it up but he still would have lost alot of fights against certain strong shinobi

I agree with him. I said naruto overall is weaker without kurama but base him is stronger and still Kage level. Yes he would have lost to pain probably but being Kage level at 16 definitely makes him a genius.

 

[Cosman]

Base Naruto is low-mid kage level and anybody that believes otherwise is seriously deluding themselves. SM Naruto is mid-high kage at the very least and it just grows from there.

And that is at the age of sixteen people. He defeated the majority of the paths of pain without Kurama's interference, and even then he had to end it on his own terms. The kid is a beast, only a fool would believe otherwise.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Without kurama, base naruto instantly has reduced chakra.

Say goodbye to 1000 shadow clone jutsu right off the bat.
He wouldn't be able to learn rasengan as easy as he did because he wouldn't have kyuubi restoring him as fast anymore. He was only able to learn alot of his stuff because of kyuubi increasing the rate he recovers and boosting his massive chakra.

Without kyuubi, he would have died against haku. He and sasuke both.

sadly no haku wasnt going to kill them

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

What?!!

Base Naruto would be even stronger than a Bijuu Mode Naruto?
That gave me a good laugh.

 

[maxwellwilson02]

Without kurama, base naruto instantly has reduced chakra.

Say goodbye to 1000 shadow clone jutsu right off the bat.
He wouldn't be able to learn rasengan as easy as he did because he wouldn't have kyuubi restoring him as fast anymore. He was only able to learn alot of his stuff because of kyuubi increasing the rate he recovers and boosting his massive chakra.

Without kyuubi, he would have died against haku. He and sasuke both.

Base naruto can still use 1000 shadow clones. His chakra level is still great. Not as much but great. You forget that part of doing a Hutus is not just how much chakra but how good a control you have. Naruto had sucky chakra control that prevented him from learning easier, he still has the amount of chakra required for the Justus's with greater and more efficient use of it.

 

[maxwellwilson02]

What?!!

Base Naruto would be even stronger than a Bijuu Mode Naruto?
That gave me a good laugh.

Seriously read the post before commenting. I said he would be weaker overall without kurama but stronger than current base naruto.....
Sorr for any typo as on phone