Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

[Itachi Solos]

LOL keyword being if....If itachi was so smart then he would've found out a way to kill obito or find out his secrets, but the fact oif the matter is that he DIDNT. This fact alone proves that obito>itachi

OP tried to argue a case involving obito saying "right now" and i proved that part wrong, then you step in with a rebuttal saying obito > itachi which has no relevance to what i posted

idgi

 

[godzillard]

if you guys want an opinion that is not biased (im an itachi fan)/I also like Obito...
read my posts and enjoy them....
its been shown that the Akatsuki dont mind fighting eachother
so if Pein said so They would have killed Itachi(or tried)

 

[swagking]

Agreed, it's pretty obvious he is stronger even before he obtained the rinnegan lol

 

[Draphsin]

Itachi never fought against Obito so how would he know what Jutsu's Obito had? you must be completely stupid.

LOL you dont get it.....:sy: figures comming from an itachi fanboy

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Itachi knew that obito had an ability to help him "slip" through things, so if your lord was so smart then how come he didnt anticipate this when trying to kill him...? Minato did from 1 glance

Please stfu if you wanna insult me for being right

 

[Munboy]

I agree completely. Kamui alone could help Obito defeat Itachi; throw in what he displayed later: Izanagi, poweful Genjutsu, Mokuton and he is more than a match for Itachi. The Rinnegan is just some icing on the cake.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

The fact remains that he waited until after his death to make a move against a man he knew was a threat to both Sasuke and Konoha. A man he described as a 'shadow of his former self'. Kamui is just too hax. Itachi's arsenal isn't besting Kamui, Izanagi and Mokuton. Obito knew everything about Itachi. Itachi had limited knowledge regarding Obito. The latter is just starting any canon fight between the two with an advantage, and is the clear favourite to snatch victory. The only thing Itachi has which would cause problems is Izanami, and that requires shared physical sensation between the two. If Obito touches him even once, the fight ends, so taking that route is practically suicide on Itachi's part.

Obito trolled the combined efforts of Naruto, Gai, Kakashi and Bee with nothing more than Kamui and his Gunbai. He was disappearing into the ground and popping up fast enough to land a finishing touch on his opponents (which Naruto only survived because of his abilities to sense negative emotions), a touch which, canonically, not even Minato's Hiraishin would be quick enough to escape. The man would literally walk through Susano'o. He's more experienced than Itachi. He deceived Itachi. Kamui isn't being beaten without some form of S/T Ninjutsu or years of prep time.

I am being completely unbiased here. Please be the same.
I agree:
Kamui is the game-changer and poses a ln enormous threat.
Obito deceived Itachi in thinking that he's Madara. Quite a feat that was to fool a genius.
Izanmai wouldn't work on Obito.
Itachi would be much better off keeping his distance from Obito.

I disagree:
Itachi didn't fear Obito. It was just that he risked death when fighting him and vice versa. Itachi couldn't have risked dying before doing what he needed to do with Sasuke. Itachi and Obito were at a stand-still because they both were a threat to each other.
Susano'o wouldn't be useless. The Yata Mirror would still do its job to block Obito's assaults. The Totsuka Blade's speed could've potentially pierced Obito if Itachi timed things correctly.


Btw, we're falling into Bogard's trap. He so wants this to become a hottest thread.

 

[godzillard]

Agreed, it's pretty obvious he is stronger even before he obtained the rinnegan lol

He is pretty strong but you never really see Itachi fully fighting one on one death match....
Sasuke was like training..
Kabuto wasnt a death match..
Jiraiya, Itachi didnt want to take the nine tails..

 

[Draphsin]

OP tried to argue a case involving obito saying "right now" and i proved that part wrong, then you step in with a rebuttal saying obito > itachi which has no relevance to what i posted

idgi

Are you not trying to prove that Itachi>obito......? Because if you're not, then what was the point of you posting? :sy: because it seemed from the post that you were acting like ixc

 

[Redhothabanero]

Obito is stronger then itachi?Please..i would've died before it.. -_-
The man who stole rinnegan from nagato..even got caught by minato.. XD

 

[godzillard]

Are you not trying to prove that Itachi>obito......? Because if you're not, then what was the point of you posting? :sy: because it seemed from the post that you were acting like ixc

whats wrong with you? tell me
Obito could have done some damage to Minato if he had something on those chains
that touched minato he *****(obito)

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Truly,obito is more powerful than itachi.
He manupulated hax shinobi's from the sidelines.
Everything itachi has,is useless againts obito!

 

[godzillard]

i'm still thinking obito was scared of pulling a fight with itachi because of his izanami , and since obito was an izanagi user, he had no chance of winning.
and that's his secret.

obito might not have known itachi had izanami
but he might have since he was watching itachi as a teen i suppose
new sage of 6 paths
Truly,obito is more powerful than itachi.
He manupulated hax shinobi's from the sidelines.
Everything itachi has,is useless againts obito!
not correct in all...Itachi is not useless against anyone in battle

 

[OnPoint]

I am being completely unbiased here. Please be the same.

Don't know what this is trying to imply.

I disagree:
Itachi didn't fear Obito. It was just that he risked death when fighting him and vice versa. Itachi couldn't have risked dying before doing what he needed to do with Sasuke. Itachi and Obito were at a stand-still because they both were a threat to each other.

I never used the word 'feared'. Itachi kept his distance, as canon shows.

Susano'o wouldn't be useless. The Yata Mirror would still do its job to block Obito's assaults. The Totsuka Blade's speed could've potentially pierced Obito if Itachi timed things correctly.

He could walk through Susano'o. It is this kind of tactic which, without sensing abilties, Itachi will fall to [

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[Bogard]

i'm still thinking obito was scared of pulling a fight with itachi because of his izanami , and since obito was an izanagi user, he had no chance of winning.
and that's his secret.

You talk about forbidden techniques they don't even use in battle, only use it as last ressort. I don't see where Izanagi or Izanami would have change a thing in their battle since none of them would even want to ressort to one of those techniques and lose a sight uselessly in the end especially Itachi who doesn't have a stock of sharingan in his lab like Obito and could not use Susanoo or Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi after that, so decreasing his power level quite a lot if it fails. Obito has not shown to be a Izanagi spammer like Danzo. He only uses it as last ressort like i've said, like against Konan, when he has no other choice. Same goes for Itachi who had no other choice but to use Izanami against Kabuto since visual genjutsus were useless. Furthermore, Itachi said he was like Kabuto when he was alive, so Izanami could work against him as well if Obito were to use it

 

[Draphsin]

whats wrong with you? tell me
Obito could have done some damage to Minato if he had something on those chains
that touched minato he *****(obito)

Thats not what im saying. Itachi knew that obito could slip through things so why didnt he anticipate it? minato was given less than 5mins to analyze obito's ability, I dont see why itachi couldnt have done the same?:shrug: and obito has never shown his ability in front of konan but she somehow figured it out lol...so itachi, the "kage" level thinker not knowing or not having some sort of backup plan is his fail which is why obito>itachi

 

[Munboy]

Itachi said Madara's eye power was greater than his own. Then he sensed that same level of power within Obito. That means Obito's ocular powers far exceed Itachi's. This holds true especially since Itachi didn't even want to challenge Obito; there's a reason he tried to sneak attack him with an Amaterasu Fuuinjutsu and not go and try directly.

If Itachi had a skill set like Minato, then maybe a case could be made for Itachi. You see, we know all Itachi has to offer and it isn't good enough to put him on pre-Rinnegan Obito's level. Minato, on the other hand, has a list of jutsu we don't know about (including Uzumaki Fuuinjutsu and 'that jutsu') and has actually been able to get past Kamui once.

Minato's an example of a case you can argue for right now because there's still a shroud of mystery with his full jutsu pool whereas you cannot give Itachi the same benefit because he showed his all.

 

[godzillard]

Thats not what im saying. Itachi knew that obito could slip through things so why didnt he anticipate it? minato was given less than 5mins to analyze obito's ability, I dont see why itachi couldnt have done the same?:shrug: and obito has never shown his ability in front of konan but she somehow figured it out lol...so itachi, the "kage" level thinker not knowing or not having some sort of backup plan is his fail which is why obito>itachi

i think kishi kinda screwed up with that konan thing...she was around Tobi more than Itachi i bet...
itachi has brains and skills and tools to remove obito from battle

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

obito might not have known itachi had izanami
but he might have since he was watching itachi as a teen i suppose
new sage of 6 paths
Truly,obito is more powerful than itachi.
He manupulated hax shinobi's from the sidelines.
Everything itachi has,is useless againts obito!
not correct in all...Itachi is not useless against anyone in battle

Believe me,obito is itachi's worst matchup.
He could slip through any attacks without handsigns!
Itachi isn't as fastas obito,itachi can't touch him!

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Don't know what this is trying to imply.

I never used the word 'feared'. Itachi kept his distance, as canon shows.

He could walk through Susano'o. It is this kind of tactic which, without sensing abilties, Itachi will fall to [

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]. In fact, i'd say using Susano'o is possibly the worst thing Itachi could do. Because not only would it tax his chakra reserves at an incredible pace, it'd leave to door open for Obito to either appear from underneath or have some Mokuton tendrils explode inside [

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That was just a reminder to keep up a fair debate.
Crap, you got me there. Plus, Itachi would need to keep his eyes on Obito's sneaky tail, so watching him from inside a radiant, reddish-orange humanoid wouldn't be the best idea.
You win this battle. Though hopefully Owarji and/or Blaze Release come to won the war because they're much more knowledgable than me.

 

[Draphsin]

i think kishi kinda screwed up with that konan thing...she was around Tobi more than Itachi i bet...
itachi has brains and skills and tools to remove obito from battle

He has the brains and the tools i wont deny that, but he doesnt have the skill, otherwise obito would be dead right now

Obito is literally itachi's worst matchup, like sasuke being deidara's worst matchup